Mt Baw Baw Snow Report

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Wed Jun 16
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Cloudy.
Thu Jun 17
-1°c | 3°c
Partly cloudy.
Fri Jun 18
-1°c | 3°c
Snow showers.
Sat Jun 19
0°c | 3°c
Snow showers easing.
Sun Jun 20
-2°c | 4°c
Partly cloudy.
Mon Jun 21
-3°c | 5°c
Mostly sunny.
Tue Jun 22
-3°c | 5°c
Partly cloudy.

Comments

Timmossy
16/6/21 - 10:14am
djam: The reason Baw Baw is not of the grid, is because it is cheaper to use generators then to maintain poles and wires. So it is never going to happen. Some other towns in Vic that once had grid power are also now off grid, for the same reason. Here is the power source details as of 2018.
The southern resorts get ~$7 million every year, the normal amount the other 3 get is close to zero. That fact that the government run large parts of Baw Baw, should mean they make more money, not a reason to run at a loss. As a tax payer, I don't need to fund the resort I live at and another I don't.
LPG for base power - ouch. Generator would be about 30% efficient. LPG is an expensive fuel. Even if they bought it at say $0.6/L which is about as good as you can get if you buy it in bulk, that's a cost of $0.3/kWh for electricity. So cost by the time you add in maintenance, cost of infrastructure etc. would be more like $0.4/kWh. Assume it's subsidised by the RMB otherwise nobody would turn their lights on.
djam
16/6/21 - 9:30am
> Where do you draw the line? Fund city stuff, ignore the bush? Fund blue collar stuff like footy, netball fields but leave ski facilities (toffs?) to fend for themselves. yep, that is a fair view and I generally agree. But there is still a return on the investment to be considered. Buller generate huge revenues for the state, and should receive funds to grow that. Based on the amount the southern pair get, Buller should be getting something like 5-6 x that amount. The dam cost IIRC $13.1 million, so the resort (3 income sources, gate, rent and services) paid for the rest. Baw Baw needs to find a better balance, IMO lifted skiing at Baw Baw is no longer workable and I expect a huge amount of the resort loss will be from the lift costs. Regarding a bigger dam, I'm not sure the supply is there at Baw Baw to support much more water, it is a very small catchment area.
snowgum
16/6/21 - 9:11am
djam: The reason Baw Baw is not of the grid, is because it is cheaper to use generators then to maintain poles and wires. So it is never going to happen. Some other towns in Vic that once had grid power are also now off grid, for the same reason. Here is the power source details as of 2018.
The southern resorts get ~$7 million every year, the normal amount the other 3 get is close to zero. That fact that the government run large parts of Baw Baw, should mean they make more money, not a reason to run at a loss. As a tax payer, I don't need to fund the resort I live at and another I don't.
thanks for your detailed answer. Just to better understand. The States (and Feds) fund and run heaps of services (hospitals, aged care, schools roads, PT, emergency services, sports stadiums etc...) mush of which we donít all use - not constantly. Where do you draw the line? Fund city stuff, ignore the bush? Fund blue collar stuff like footy, netball fields but leave ski facilities (toffs?) to fend for themselves. This is a slippery slope, leaving resorts, services to self fund? Many donít ski Buller and donít benefit from the new dam (which Iíve seen and support btw). But they accept state assets need help. Agree to disagree here.
djam
16/6/21 - 9:01am
The reason Baw Baw is not of the grid, is because it is cheaper to use generators then to maintain poles and wires. So it is never going to happen. Some other towns in Vic that once had grid power are also now off grid, for the same reason. Here is the power source details as of 2018.
The southern resorts get ~$7 million every year, the normal amount the other 3 get is close to zero. That fact that the government run large parts of Baw Baw, should mean they make more money, not a reason to run at a loss. As a tax payer, I don't need to fund the resort I live at and another I don't.
snowgum
16/6/21 - 12:10am
chriscross: Gas Turbine? Where's the gas tank? It's diesel. Has been for years. Dreams of coal fired electricity have gone unfulfilled.
OK I stand corrected. But itís still antiquated - even third world? I wonder who funded the supply of electricity to the big resorts in Vic and NSW? I bet it wasnít the resorts or the lift companies?
chriscross
15/6/21 - 10:48pm
Gas Turbine? Where's the gas tank? It's diesel. Has been for years. Dreams of coal fired electricity have gone unfulfilled.
snowgum
15/6/21 - 9:09pm
djam: The southern resorts get so much more money then the big 3 combined, every year. No one can say they don't get a fair go.
But do they get money for the really big Capital items? Clearly, LM has had some big money spent post bushfires. But BBís big items - the car parks, sealed road, the Ďnew hotelí are all 1-2 decades old now. Thereís the new ice-making system and small Ďrealí SM system - theyíre not cheap but Iím not sure they equate to say a $5 million dam, for instance? thereís also the obvious fact that the two smalls are totally Government owned and run - unlike the big 3 - so should receive more help. I do know BBís power system is expensive (gas turbine?), old fashioned and needs to be modernised. Maybe thatís the next big item for Vic Govt. to tackle after fixing the water supply?
djam
15/6/21 - 8:37pm
The southern resorts get so much more money then the big 3 combined, every year. No one can say they don't get a fair go.
chriscross
15/6/21 - 8:32pm
You know how it is, SG. Hotham and Buller attract big crowds of cashed up alpine skiers, make money. BB is, unfortunately, a drain on state resources. A few heavily subsidised jobs and training for South Gippsland. Resort still running on dirty diesel genny, I believe. Don't hold breath for investment in bb. In fact, fingers crossed it survives at all after recent Alpine management reshuffle.
snowgum
15/6/21 - 7:27pm
Baw Baw Bear: Thank you all for the thoughts we have been boiling water since i think before Easter, was meant to be fixed but hey welcome to Baw Baw. Still Boiling
Who in the resort is claiming to have a repair timeline? This delay should embarrass resort managers and the board? Is this caveat even on the shiny web site? just noting the State has previously spent millions on dams, water and sewerage works at Hotham an Buller. It must be time for Dan & Lily share some love with Bawbs.
Baw Baw Bear
15/6/21 - 7:11pm
snowgum: I canít leave Melbourne but I understand the resort was shut due to the storm - mostly trees down, possibly water issues too? But thereís almost no snow post 300mm dumpage. A few swales? Sad! Thereís some snow forecast for Wed-Sat this week. I reckon Bb needs ~ two good weeks of snow without major (~ 50mm) rain - maybe 50cm to get the bigger lifts close to running (Summit/Maltese) X fingers this week goes half way - maybe to get carpets and Hut or Tank going?
Thank you all for the thoughts we have been boiling water since i think before Easter, was meant to be fixed but hey welcome to Baw Baw. Still Boiling
Mister Tee on XC Skis
15/6/21 - 9:35am
snowgum: Yes I know, sadly I think for the next 3-4 weeks, Hotham & Falls XC will be far superior to anything close to Melbourne. Even Buller/Stirling canít escape these rain events. Sometimes 1 or 2 decent (longer Dist) weekends are more satisfying than weekly jaunts to ski 10-20 cms of mush/chop?
I have some free accommodation set up via an old friend in Myrtleford for the first 4-5 -6 days in July. We need fresh snow at Dinner Plain, Falls Creek , Mt. Buffalo and Mt. Stirling so I can day trip to all of them for ski action from Myrtleford. and Let us OUT of Melb. FFS!
snowgum
14/6/21 - 11:38pm
nezumi: It was all looking so so good, had me keen to get up there and theeeeeen..... gone.
Yes I know, sadly I think for the next 3-4 weeks, Hotham & Falls XC will be far superior to anything close to Melbourne. Even Buller/Stirling canít escape these rain events. Sometimes 1 or 2 decent (longer Dist) weekends are more satisfying than weekly jaunts to ski 10-20 cms of mush/chop?
nezumi
14/6/21 - 11:06pm
snowgum: I canít leave Melbourne but I understand the resort was shut due to the storm - mostly trees down, possibly water issues too? But thereís almost no snow post 300mm dumpage. A few swales? Sad! Thereís some snow forecast for Wed-Sat this week. I reckon Bb needs ~ two good weeks of snow without major (~ 50mm) rain - maybe 50cm to get the bigger lifts close to running (Summit/Maltese) X fingers this week goes half way - maybe to get carpets and Hut or Tank going?
It was all looking so so good, had me keen to get up there and theeeeeen..... gone.
snowgum
14/6/21 - 10:45pm
Sweefu: Have any locals been to Baw Baw since the storm? Hope everyone is doing OK! Any clues as to when lifts may be running?
I canít leave Melbourne but I understand the resort was shut due to the storm - mostly trees down, possibly water issues too? But thereís almost no snow post 300mm dumpage. A few swales? Sad! Thereís some snow forecast for Wed-Sat this week. I reckon Bb needs ~ two good weeks of snow without major (~ 50mm) rain - maybe 50cm to get the bigger lifts close to running (Summit/Maltese) X fingers this week goes half way - maybe to get carpets and Hut or Tank going?
absentskier
14/6/21 - 10:44pm
Sweefu: Have any locals been to Baw Baw since the storm? Hope everyone is doing OK! Any clues as to when lifts may be running?
Thereís absolutely no snow except for the slushy piles, so theyíre in a difficult spot!
14/6/21 - 10:37pm
Have any locals been to Baw Baw since the storm? Hope everyone is doing OK! Any clues as to when lifts may be running?
snowgum
11/6/21 - 1:07pm
chriscross: Looks like SF Rd is open to the bb turn-off, but not sure why you'd bother. A bummer for the little mountain.
Bb & LM have had some shocking weather/fire-related events issues the last decade or so. Both terribly unlucky although big resorts have had their share too! Then thereís Covid... But snow-related smalls are terribly unlucky/frustrating- it seems each time they get half decent dump or snow base - a major rain event KOs whatís there. Sorry to sound negative - I am watching the forecast for the next major complex low & cold front, due about next Thursday (17/6) - Sunday (20/6). It Ďcouldí turn into another ECL & rain, it could stay cold and give a modest top up? Watch the FCs through the weak and think positive thoughts.
chriscross
11/6/21 - 12:53pm
Looks like SF Rd is open to the bb turn-off, but not sure why you'd bother. A bummer for the little mountain.
Baw Baw Bear
11/6/21 - 11:34am
Access roads closed at present

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