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From the forum - Mt Baw Baw season 2022 Trip Reports, Pics, Updates and Conditions

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Mister Tee on XC Skis
4/7/22 - 8:23pm
chriscross: I was really surprised that they chose to open Hut to the top, rather than say, Tank Hill. It suited me ok; parts of the Hut run are flat and fairly easy but in places it is steep, narrow through trees and requires some skill. But complete beginners were going up to the top because it was open and no-one was advising them otherwise. Potential for accidents was clear.
Clint Eastwood should have been there to say to them that " A man's got to know his limitations".
chriscross
4/7/22 - 5:38pm
I was really surprised that they chose to open Hut to the top, rather than say, Tank Hill. It suited me ok; parts of the Hut run are flat and fairly easy but in places it is steep, narrow through trees and requires some skill. But complete beginners were going up to the top because it was open and no-one was advising them otherwise. Potential for accidents was clear.
travelislife
1/7/22 - 7:19pm
Website saying lift passes sold out for the weekend. I wonder what they can them at? Also where do they do the night skiing?
Mister Tee on XC Skis
1/7/22 - 6:24pm
All I know is that unless we get smowmageddon part 2 in a week or two or three then going to BB or LM is not worth it.
travelislife
1/7/22 - 5:18pm
Here is my exchange today with Baw Baw on FB Messenger....they seriously have no idea. If I am going to make the effort to drive up I want to know what they plan to run on the weekend. Is that too much to ask? Hi, will the Big Hill Carpet be open this weekend? Thanks. It depends, we will open as much as we can according to the snow conditions. You can always check our website. That isn’t helpful. Snow conditions are fine for the Big Hill Carpet to run. But it hasn’t run once this year yet. You must love that carpet right? I’ll follow it and hope we can run is asap.
Not really. Just no progression for young kids from the small carpet. Hut Platter is too much a step from that small carpet. Especially when summit T Bar isn’t running.
bawbawbel
29/6/22 - 10:14pm
When the skiing/ snowboarding part was contracted out, it hummed. Keep all the lifts running when the snow comes from the new weather and give the contractors an extra 10 per cent of the profits from tobogganing for upgrading work. (No interference from Big Skiing, please, would give it a chance.) Swapping a Home Trail for a couple of jumps on Tank is crazy. Should have left the VW beside Hut, and the Tubing/ Big Hill berms left in place would have made more sense ...
Mister Tee on XC Skis
29/6/22 - 10:10pm
snowgum: Fifty fifty. They do read their own Facebook comments.
If they can give me the experience I recently had on the lifts at Falls Creek or even half of that then I will be a return customer for downhill skiing at Baw Baw. I aim to try it at Baw Baw next month once we get some proper real snow in the second half of July 2022.
snowgum
29/6/22 - 9:19pm
Mister Tee on XC Skis: Do you think the clowns that mismanage both LM and BB actually read our ramblings and criticisms?
Fifty fifty. They do read their own Facebook comments.
Mister Tee on XC Skis
29/6/22 - 9:13pm
Do you think the clowns that mismanage both LM and BB actually read our ramblings and criticisms?
Baw Baw Bear
29/6/22 - 8:26pm
snowgum: Actually them running anything is the joke. But a lift rationalisation, with a Summit Chair, and functioning top to bottom (Summit) snow/ice making isn’t a bad idea? Get rid of Painted T bars - which never runs - Big Hill Poma (ditto - or has that already happened?), Hut Run T and Summit T, place a good Nic, fixed-grip quad. Keep Maltese it’s a stand alone area. For more VFM, rip out Tank Hill T and extend the chair up that run - so it makes the chair a 900m, dual-direction lift - a little like Orchard/Keoghs - with ~ half the vertical. But without a functioning tob-bottom, SM or IM -system, spending money on BB lifts is pointless.
Big Hill poma has been redundant for more than 10 yrs i think , and i agree the painted run tow is not needed . Why they built it no one will ever know , one of the many hundred and thousands they have spent on consultants and planning , to get us nowhere
snowgum
29/6/22 - 7:03pm
Baw Baw Bear: What makes me laugh is they are thinking of putting in a chairlift ,what a joke we had one . Short sighted politicians who have no idea !! Cannot manage a small resort yet alone a chairlift
Actually them running anything is the joke. But a lift rationalisation, with a Summit Chair, and functioning top to bottom (Summit) snow/ice making isn’t a bad idea? Get rid of Painted T bars - which never runs - Big Hill Poma (ditto - or has that already happened?), Hut Run T and Summit T, place a good Nic, fixed-grip quad. Keep Maltese it’s a stand alone area. For more VFM, rip out Tank Hill T and extend the chair up that run - so it makes the chair a 900m, dual-direction lift - a little like Orchard/Keoghs - with ~ half the vertical. But without a functioning tob-bottom, SM or IM -system, spending money on BB lifts is pointless.
Baw Baw Bear
29/6/22 - 6:46pm
What makes me laugh is they are thinking of putting in a chairlift ,what a joke we had one . Short sighted politicians who have no idea !! Cannot manage a small resort yet alone a chairlift
snowgum
29/6/22 - 6:35pm
Baw Baw Bear: They could easily run tank hill if it was groomed , also what i found was interesting if you try and pre purchase a lift day pass it still states full ticket price with only one lift running. Surely not ?? I hate to think how many punters the mountain has lost. It is just year after year of poor management.
It’s terrible customer service and VFM! We’ll need to dib them into CAV or ACCC at this rate (if I actually go? these reports aren’t exactly encouraging?) As things stand - it would be a better out outcome if the State Government contracted BSLs to run the mountain / resort and lift infrastructure. Just set the price right first. Costs + x?
Baw Baw Bear
29/6/22 - 3:59pm
They could easily run tank hill if it was groomed , also what i found was interesting if you try and pre purchase a lift day pass it still states full ticket price with only one lift running. Surely not ?? I hate to think how many punters the mountain has lost. It is just year after year of poor management.
snowgum
29/6/22 - 1:17pm
nezumi: Agreed, the number of people that have difficulty with the Hut lift due to the sharp little rise and levelling out is pretty significant.
BBRM know this - my son had fun with it a few years ago as a beginner 8 year old. BB could avoid congestion by adding their ice-machine snow to the mid and upper slopes of the summit run and grooming. Yarda…? A decent long run, spreading crowds to a degree - nothing super steep, a modest pinch up the last 20m. But that’s not in the game plan - summit T & run seems only to be run after the heaviest dumps of snow. What a waste! Especially during the school holidays.
nezumi
29/6/22 - 9:46am
travelislife: No tank hill platter or big hill carpet? Both of which spreads the beginners around and need minimal snow. Beginner snowboarders trying to get straight on the Hut Platter just creates long waits for all.
Agreed, the number of people that have difficulty with the Hut lift due to the sharp little rise and levelling out is pretty significant.
snowgum
29/6/22 - 8:18am
travelislife: No tank hill platter or big hill carpet? Both of which spreads the beginners around and need minimal snow. Beginner snowboarders trying to get straight on the Hut Platter just creates long waits for all.
It’s nuts, but RM can’t hear ‘us’ or have constraints, that they’re not prepared to divulge?
travelislife
29/6/22 - 12:44am
snowgum: I don’t understand B not opening up skiable areas when the mtn is full of punters. Surely they could 1-2 more trained staff to operate summit? without the Summit T running, BB feels very small and limited. Great to hear about the Summit xc trails. Must have had a groom at last? Hazzah! :thumbs: :ski:
No tank hill platter or big hill carpet? Both of which spreads the beginners around and need minimal snow. Beginner snowboarders trying to get straight on the Hut Platter just creates long waits for all.
snowgum
28/6/22 - 11:50pm
Sorry djam it’s late and Apple has its own spelling ideas!
snowgum
28/6/22 - 11:49pm
djam: Ask the RMB what it costs per hour to groom the trails, then setup a go fund me page each week and collect funds towards getting the grooming done. Lets see how much interest there is from people really prepared to pay for the service.
I know how you feel about finding the smaller resorts dram. I am somewhat sympathetic to your view. However, you / we all know that without government intervention, BB & LM would go the way of Buffalo, fast. And might still do. And then what will lower-income folks do? Anyway, paying for trails? I recall they tried that for a few a years, I don’t think the revenue paid for itself. Like all the XC hills? And to be frank, based on reports from this year and the years just prior to Covid, I’m not confident that say $10 per skier x 50/ 100 per week, would cover their diesel, staff and maintenance costs. You could flip this argument by: surveying visitors through the winter to get a good estimate of the % using the XC trails. Factor that % on the total tollgate revenue and that’s your approximate budget for grooming (& even patrolling?) XC trails. Eve if only 1-2 % BB visitors go XC, that’s a sizeable revenue stream. Perhaps apply that % to one-off Govt. Grants too? One idea? Not a unique one I’m sure.

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