Lake Mountain Snow Report

7:44am - 09 Jul 2020       
Surface Condition Softening
Snow Depth (Snowmaking) 35 cm
Snow Depth (Natural) 1 cm
Snowfall (Last 24hrs) 0 cm
Today's Weather: Possible shower. Windy. Forecast Max 7°c

Surface Condition

Softening

Conditions

insufficient FOR SKIING

Snow Cover

Limited

Snowmaking

In Progress

Grooming Summary

Village Toboggan

Good

Road Condition

Open - ice patches

Snowfall History

04 Jul 20207cm
cm
cm

Announcements

LIMITED MAN MADE SNOW FOR SNOWPLAY . TOBOGGANING .

Updated: 07:44 09/07/2020

Trail Status Grooming Date Groomed
Echo Flat - upperClosedNone06.07.20
Echo Flat - lowerClosedNone06.07.20
Muster Trail - upperClosedNone06.07.20
Muster Trail - lowerClosedNone06.07.20
Home TrailClosedNone06.07.20
Snow Gum TrailClosedNone06.07.20
Panorama TrailClosedNone06.07.20
Woolybutt TrailClosedNone06.07.20
Royston Rd - upperClosedNone06.07.20
Royston Rd - lowerClosedNone06.07.20
Jubilee TrailClosedNone06.07.20

Snow Cams

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Weather Forecast   Weather Forum

Sat Sep 19
Max 7°c
Possible shower. Windy.
Sun Sep 20
9°c | 11°c
Showers. Wind easing.
Mon Sep 21
9°c | 10°c
Humid. Showers.
Tue Sep 22
4°c | 6°c
Showers.
Wed Sep 23
2°c | 4°c
Snow showers.
Thu Sep 24
1°c | 4°c
Snow showers.
Fri Sep 25
1°c | 3°c
Snow showers.

Comments

Ubiquitous Steve
11/6/20 - 3:26pm
teckel: Just a reminder guys, this is the Lake Mountain trip reports thread. There is a chat thread - Link and a Mt Margaret thread - Link
True....my apologies....A Mt Bike Rd from Lake Mt end down Upper Taggerty Rd towards Keppels and out via Mt Margaret Gap could be an enjoyable family plan....
teckel
11/6/20 - 3:16pm
Just a reminder guys, this is the Lake Mountain trip reports thread. There is a chat thread - Link and a Mt Margaret thread - Link
Ubiquitous Steve
11/6/20 - 3:00pm
Mt Margaret is getting a cult following.....at the present rate it will surpass Lake Mt as the selected destination in the area....facilities minimal ....enjoyment factor maximal!:thumbs: Perhaps work on Boundary Track Walking Trail is needed more than ever!o_O
snowgum
4/6/20 - 8:05pm
nezumi: Hotham have announced their Resort Entry is open today. For entry between June 5 and 21 it is priced at $35, compared to a late purchase price of $56. Purchasing 7 days or more in advance is $48.80 per day
Hotham will make most of their money post June 21 - probably donít need to charge so much in the early giggle part of the season?
Mister Tee on XC Skis
4/6/20 - 7:08pm
chriscross: Some nice photos there, beefa. Well done. Snow looks good. But the resort staff are most likely following instructions from management to discourage skiing (with no patrols). We need to bear in mind that people have become lost up there and in at least one case, have lost a life. So a government run resort probably does need to heed the "nanny state" rules.
That may be the case but some of us know that area really well and have spent numerous trips clearing the access route from Keppel's hut to the Hut ruins and skiing the Hut loop and surrounding Upper trails in all levels of low visibility. As points out , it is a Nat. Park and what we do up there in by passing the resort and the games they seem intent on playing is our business. We are well equipped and experienced enough to know the risks and manage them so that they are mitigated. This applies equally to BC XC skiing in The Baw Baw N.P., Mt. Buffalo N.P. and The Alpine N.P. as well as various state forests which have skiable terrain in white season.
Mister Tee on XC Skis
4/6/20 - 7:03pm
nezumi: Hotham have announced their Resort Entry is open today. For entry between June 5 and 21 it is priced at $35, compared to a late purchase price of $56. Purchasing 7 days or more in advance is $48.80 per day
It is still free to drive up and park at JB plain and XC ski up towards Wire plain and back . There won't be any Nordic ski trail grooming until Hotham opens full tilt in late June. Fallen trees will not be dealt with along that ski trail until the grooming starts with resort staff taking a chainsaw on the skidoo groomer.
Mister Tee on XC Skis
4/6/20 - 7:00pm
beefa skiing: Some images from the 2nd of June still keep coming to my mind. Perhaps they belong in the National Parks thread, because they are in a NP, although the LM resort is the usual method of going to these places.
Oh these pictures are good. Shades of more upcoming Keppel's hut route action this season. I have a supply drop hidden in the Keppel's hut area. We will slog it up there from Mt. M. gap and snow camp at the hut and ski the upper trails. Our track clearing will not be in vain at all. Next green season some Long Heath Loop track clearing with chainsaws and brush cutters will happen. We will rehabilitate that ski route.
chriscross
4/6/20 - 12:13pm
Some nice photos there, beefa. Well done. Snow looks good. But the resort staff are most likely following instructions from management to discourage skiing (with no patrols). We need to bear in mind that people have become lost up there and in at least one case, have lost a life. So a government run resort probably does need to heed the "nanny state" rules.
4/6/20 - 10:04am
snowgum: Good to see snowmaking happening Teckel, but I think charging $58 for a few square metres of main made snow is close to extortion. I think a modest discount for QB W/E would be more fair to new punters.
Hotham have announced their Resort Entry is open today. For entry between June 5 and 21 it is priced at $35, compared to a late purchase price of $56. Purchasing 7 days or more in advance is $48.80 per day
4/6/20 - 9:23am
Some images from the 2nd of June still keep coming to my mind. Perhaps they belong in the National Parks thread, because they are in a NP, although the LM resort is the usual method of going to these places.
Mister Tee on XC Skis
4/6/20 - 8:34am
teckel: It looks as though the pile of Snow Factory snow hasn't grown since 2:30 yesterday! :eek:
They have to "warm the machine up" , in doing so which probably melts the snow they are making . We are dealing with experts here so we should not question them too much ;-P .
4/6/20 - 8:23am
Mister Tee on XC Skis: tells me that he was turned away on June 2nd for ski session at LM despite having booked a pass the day before because he wanted to ski on fresh snow. Quite a normal idea except for people who work at a ski resort called LM. He may or may not have been enticed to use the Keppel's hut route. He can neither confirm not deny that he made the effort and got fresh tracks on Panorama trail . He can neither confirm nor deny that the Hut ruins loop had 20 cms of skiable snow depth. His imaginary no fees trip is laudable, if it took place :p , esp. in the face of what LM are doing or not doing for us skiers who have been going up there for years.
I know nothing about these things. It's nice to imagine though, maybe I even had to dry my skis at the end of the day.
teckel
4/6/20 - 7:30am
It looks as though the pile of Snow Factory snow hasn't grown since 2:30 yesterday! :eek:
Mister Tee on XC Skis
3/6/20 - 11:22pm
teckel: I think the issue with skiing is that they're worried that because there is no grooming and no ski patrol, they're concerned about legal action against the resort if someone gets hurt. They advised me not to hire skis for that reason. They told me they couldn't stop people going out on their own skis. Beefa, I think you were unlucky. Go up there with them covered by a rug if you need to.
Look at Falls Creek yesterday.NO Nanny state for them thankyou very much. I went off and skied into the Nat.park solo out to Langford's Gap and back.There were no PV rangers or resort staff saying you can't do this and that etc. . They saw me and waved !.Ha Ha Ha :-) . I could have been eaten by a Yeti but it was fine. I had a good day overall. I Got my rusty skier's muscles working. I feel a bit sore today :-p
snowgum
3/6/20 - 11:17pm
teckel: And they've started snow making - see the little pile on the right. The pile on the left was from their testing a couple of weeks ago. Covers still on the main toboggan run fan guns. Pic from 2:30 this afternoon.
Good to see snowmaking happening Teckel, but I think charging $58 for a few square metres of main made snow is close to extortion. I think a modest discount for QB W/E would be more fair to new punters.
Mister Tee on XC Skis
3/6/20 - 11:16pm
chriscross: Or investigate Mr T's access via Keppel's Hut. No entry fee payable.
tells me that he was turned away on June 2nd for ski session at LM despite having booked a pass the day before because he wanted to ski on fresh snow. Quite a normal idea except for people who work at a ski resort called LM. He may or may not have been enticed to use the Keppel's hut route. He can neither confirm not deny that he made the effort and got fresh tracks on Panorama trail . He can neither confirm nor deny that the Hut ruins loop had 20 cms of skiable snow depth. His imaginary no fees trip is laudable, if it took place :-p , esp. in the face of what LM are doing or not doing for us skiers who have been going up there for years.
Mister Tee on XC Skis
3/6/20 - 11:09pm
Drt: Can you snow camp at Lake Mountain surrounds? If you stay overnight, does this mean you have to buy two day tickets = $116 just to snow camp?
You pay per day for parking at LM . Unlike Mt. Stirling which has a discounted rate on parking for multi night snow campers who come early to mid week. I have two place names for you. Mt. Margaret Gap and Keppel's hut. No fees, it is free but you need to ski or hike in 6-7 kms with an overnight pack from the Mt.M. gap winter gate. The Hut has a pit loo, there is a stream for water and the hut has two bunks, a fire place , a picnic table outside and the Team Leader usually stocks the wood shed in June. Once the gate is locked to 4 x 4 traffic in June then it can become skiable from the winter gate all the way to Panorama trail if there is a proper snow fall down to 900 M. The access trail from the hut up to the LM ski trails is kept open by ski dot com dot au forum members during green season with chainsaws and brush cutters. Take chains and a chainsaw.@teckel sends snow play people up to the Mt. M. Gap each white season. LM is so close to Melb. for a XC ski session but each season since the end of 2018 /start of 2019 they are becoming less enticing. They seem to sometimes close the approach road if there is snow!!! WTF? They refuse to groom the trails and pack them down in advance of the seasoning opening esp. if there is a sufficient snowfall thus creating a base for the Nordic ski season to commence. Fallen trees on the ski trails are not given the el choppo pronto!
teckel
3/6/20 - 6:37pm
And they've started snow making - see the little pile on the right. The pile on the left was from their testing a couple of weeks ago. Covers still on the main toboggan run fan guns. Pic from 2:30 this afternoon.
teckel
3/6/20 - 6:29pm
Just checked their webcams. The good news? There are 6 new webcams, updating regularly. :woohoo: Even one for the skiers, - the trail head (even if it's dated August 2019)
Unfortunately, they can't put live cams on the trails. But they are showing static photos of the trails in October last year. Hopefully they'll bring them up to date soon.
3/6/20 - 6:06pm
Drt: Its actually sold out this Saturday - no spots left!
As Teckel mentioned earlier , there is no confirmation that any snow-making has been done to give snow play visitors and snow to play on/with. Looking at the snow cam after dark, it doesn't look white anywhere on the ground. THere is no snow condition report at all. Pity the poor buggers who pay the $58 for this Saturday, Sunday and Monday, turn up, get allocated a square of dirt to be corralled in, and there is no snow and maybe long queues for the loos and no food or beverage services. Crazy? The negative publicity from visitors this weekend could be large. I think the resort would be better to be saying "entry passes will be refunded or credited due to insufficient snow" and allow the punters to move their booking.

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