Mt St Gwinear Snow Report

9:10am - 16 Aug 2018       
Surface Condition Softening
Snow Depth (Natural) 35cm
Snowfall (Last 24hrs) 0cm
Today's Weather: Max °c

Surface Condition

Softening

Conditions

good skiing on softening snow.

Snow Cover

Whole Resort

Grooming Summary

Road Condition

Open and Clear

Snowfall History

12 Aug 20188cm
08 Aug 20187cm
07 Aug 20186cm

Announcements

4 cms snow at the carpark Parks Victoria Office -OPEN. Food Van -CLOSED. South Toboggan Run -CLOSED. North Toboggan Run -CLOSED. Tullicouty Trail Open.

Updated: 09:11 16/08/2018

Trail Status Grooming Date Groomed
Main TrailModerate CoverNone08/08/2018
Summit TrailNear Complete CoverNone08/08/2018
Cascades TrailNear Complete CoverNone
Tullicouty TrailNear Complete CoverNoneMarked
Saints TrailNear Complete CoverNoneNot marked
Tanjil TrailNear Complete CoverNone

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Hermannator
12/8/18 - 7:50pm
Much better today: https://www.ski.com.au/xf/threads/the-only-ski-field-in-aus-where-snowboarding-is-banned.82261/
30/7/18 - 8:13pm
Just updated my post as I realised I'd worded it really wrongly, what I meant to say was that it wasn't snowing when we arrived, but there was quite a decent powdery cover, not that there was no snow at all up there!
Mister Tee on XC Skis
30/7/18 - 3:25pm
Vertikar: Trip report for 29th of July.. No snow as we arrived, but started dumping when we started walking up the summit track. Snow was settling on the carpark as we left and it was still snowing heaps of large flakes.
Thank you for the photos. I am going up there during August 2018 , no doubt!
30/7/18 - 1:36pm
Trip report for 29th of July.. Wasn't snowing as we arrived, but started dumping when we started walking up the summit track. Snow was settling on the carpark as we left and it was still snowing heaps of large flakes.
Mister Tee on XC Skis
25/7/18 - 4:01pm
gillymonster: Pics attached as per message 22 July 2018.
Very nice fresh tracks. I like it!. I plan to come up to MSG for a day and car camp near the Thompson river Bridge near the Walhalla road.
gillymonster
25/7/18 - 11:43am
Pics attached as per message 22 July 2018.
23/7/18 - 8:46pm
On Sunday 22 July, Snow all the way to MtErica, though very thin 8cm in the dip between mountains and at the StGwinear Carpark. Snow should be good (for skiing) for another 4-5 days After that average unless more snow comes.
gillymonster
22/7/18 - 8:05pm
Lovely afternoon at MSG today. Good cover all the way out to the rock shelter and, based on what we saw, would have been a nice ski through to Baw Baw - we were a little too late getting there to contemplate that bigger journey though. Fast but fun trip back down the main trail, especially through the chute, but limited narrow grooming from Picture Point down made it difficult to do wider turns. Just a fraction too soft off track but, with a little more consolidation, should be better early this week. Came across a few walking beginning skiers and thanked them for walking to the side of the track. Will try to post a pic later.
Dragon011
22/7/18 - 3:15pm
Hello beautiful little mountain! I am running late but it is still a gorgeous day, this Sunday 22 July It appears i can't post a pic from mobile. Will do it when i get home
gillymonster
21/7/18 - 8:41pm
Planning on heading up to MSG tomorrow and will leave a condition report here.
chriscross
21/7/18 - 5:56pm
Good work, Dragon. Keep it up!
Mister Tee on XC Skis
21/7/18 - 4:22pm
The snow report for MSG is looking good now. I am watching this space.
Dragon011
20/7/18 - 11:18am
: Make it 11 ;-)! In a way I am glad to read that other people also have BIG issues with bigfoot prints and ungroomed (frozen) ski ruts at MSG. Seeing many people happily skiing down the icy rough trail, I always question my abilities. These conditions are the only reason why I don't go to MSG more often -- when I think of treacherous conditions with not enough snow, rocks protruding AND surface with frozen ruts and holes, I sometimes pull back. Fair enough, MSG is a free state/national (which one?) park and there are no huge entry fees to cover many costs and I am grateful to PV who provide even the minimum service. And very importantly, KEEP IT FREE. But still, even just occasional grooming would be good. That is why I, with my wide tele skis, always go across the footprints and try to iron them out as much as I can. Obviously it is time for me to go this weekend and do my job :-)!
Snowy Joey
20/7/18 - 10:54am
PV reporting 5cm fresh snow overnight. 31cm on upper trails.
snowgum
19/7/18 - 3:35pm
Ubiquitous Steve: Give Xplora a PM and he will be on his hot line to Parks Vic and resolve all issues in no time at all!
By these reports,Its outrageous just how far cack MSG services/ grooming have slipped. All done without asking the public. Visitors should be peppering relevant minister & CEO PV with complaints. PV are effectively preventing beginners, kids etc.. from learning / partaking the sport or pushing them to a much busier, more expensive mtn, sharing trails with dogsleds. Most of us havent got over Buffalo’s debacle & now this!!! Time for a petition or march on Spring St - all 10 of us!!
Ubiquitous Steve
19/7/18 - 1:24pm
Goski: NOTE: Main trail is NOT suitable for skating unless they groomed it thoroughly this morning , Wednesday July 11. We did go to MSG yesterday, Tuesday July 10. Great weather all day. We had a leisurely start arriving at 10.30am and arrived at the same time as about 5 other cars. Parks had about 5 staff there (very slowly) directing those cars into parking spots on the very icy top carpark. However, they had expended no energy grooming the trail since who knows when.We skied up in the morning with icy, irregular ruts, several tracks of deep bootprints and snow shoe indents 5-10cm deep all the way from the carpark to the summit. Often the trail from the first bridge onwards was less than 1M wide so I think it wasn't groomed after the last reported snowfall July 8, if at all since the season started. With the snow messed up and frozen, they were close to the worst main trail conditions (with reasonable cover) I've experienced at MSG in years. With 35cm of cover since Saturday, grooming could have been done and the trail could have been pretty good, as long as it wasn't wrecked by more walkers. I note too that many of the snow-shoe prints were worse than the bootprints - deep enough to prevent a ski pattern gripping and covering a much bigger area per print. If snowshoes are used after fresh snow then there is a freeze and no grooming, you get deep Bigfoot prints, which is what we had all over the trail surface. I've attached a couple of photos of the trail on the way up. The trail conditions were worse still between Jeep Track Flat and the summit and dangerous to ski on, even with plastic tele boots and heavier touring skis. It was very icy and like skiing across building rubble The 11/7 trails report is incorrect. It reports that groomng was done on July 9 but the main trail was ungroomed all the to the summit on Tuesday morning 10/7. Some effort was made to groom via the snowmobile from the trail-head to Jeep Track Flat sometime after we passed skied through the flat at midday on July 10. We were pleased to find the major bumps and ruts somewhat reduced, the trail widened (it was often very narrow prior) and the holes partially filled to make the return descent from Jeep Track Flat but it was still a rough uneven surface. My kids did a great job getting up and down safely on their lighter xc gear. It was a tough ski day on a trail that should have been groomed after the 12cm that fell on the 8th. Cover is getting patchy at the bottom but still has complete cover from 100m from the trailhead on Tuesday 10/7 at 4pm. I wouldn't expect any more grooming until another snowfall or if Parks get motivated to do a bit before the weekend, though the cover could be too low to try it by Friday. Main tobaggan slope next to the shelter was cactus and given the icy and rough snow on the slopes it would be like sending your kids down a lumpy luge track! Please post updates on actual conditions at MSG when you go. Without cams and sparse and incorrect reporting by Parks, we need the community's reports.
Give Xplora a PM and he will be on his hot line to Parks Vic and resolve all issues in no time at all!
18/7/18 - 11:17pm
Flexo: Thanks for the write up. Usually get to MSG once or twice a year and hope to go this coming Sunday. You are right about the walkers and snowshoers who plonk up the middle of the track and make skiing down when icy a bit dangerous. Whenever I have suggested to a walker to keep to the side of the track you always get a blank look because they have no idea that they are creating a problem. Maybe one of those five Parks guys might ask if they are sightseeing or walking then to observe the protocols and stay on the side.
Walkers are not permitted at all on the ski trails but yes, if you have to walk due to a gear breakage, injury or to avoid skiing sections beyond one's ability, yes the side of the trail is the place to do it. Agree too that snow-shoers should go up and down on one side of the trail. Their prints can be worse than a bootprint when they are heavy and/or theyvmake depressions in soft snow that subsequently freezes followed by no grooming.
18/7/18 - 5:34pm
Mister Tee on XC Skis: Nuffs Nuffs in street shoes also walk all over the groomed track up the Horn road at Mt. Buffalo.
I read your trip report about that, sounded very icy!
Mister Tee on XC Skis
18/7/18 - 4:16pm
chriscross: It was a walker who got lost and perished at LM a few years ago. There is now some feature there named after him, IIRC. But it illustrates the potential hazards for people who think, oh yeah, I'll just go for a walk up the cross country trail. In a perfect world, perhaps, access would be policed more carefully, but that would require staff, or at least volunteers.
Newbies who are unprepared for winter in the hills can easily become bamboozled when everything is white and esp . when they have no compass or map.
chriscross
18/7/18 - 3:46pm
It was a walker who got lost and perished at LM a few years ago. There is now some feature there named after him, IIRC. But it illustrates the potential hazards for people who think, oh yeah, I'll just go for a walk up the cross country trail. In a perfect world, perhaps, access would be policed more carefully, but that would require staff, or at least volunteers.

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