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2019 Epic Pass $799

Discussion in 'Perisher' started by skiflat, Aug 16, 2018.

  1. Paperboy

    Paperboy One of Us

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    So should be still available after USA ski season?
     
  2. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yeah ...until June next year
     
  3. Kopite

    Kopite One of Us

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    Anybody know if we get the European access that the Epic Pass on the American site?
     
  4. chicski

    chicski A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Nup
     
  5. Kopite

    Kopite One of Us

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    Shame. Would have lightened the load for the trip this year.
     
  6. Undies

    Undies Pizza! Ski Pass: Gold

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    Still no word on European destinations becoming Epic for Aus pass holders? If they did then I'd buy a pass for our Aus season for sure. Actually, that would be 4 passes for the family.
     
  7. Marty_McSly

    Marty_McSly Backwards to the future! Ski Pass: Gold

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    This would suggest that it's not going to happen. This year anyway.

     
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  8. Undies

    Undies Pizza! Ski Pass: Gold

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    Booooooooo.......
     
  9. heathy

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    The deal with Falls/Hotham has thrown up some interesting points Hero pass $1199 Epic $839 (today-probably 859 tomorrow) Hero pass not valid at Perisher. over 70's free in Victoria $199 at Perisher. Since Vail has taken over the the only price that has kept to the inflation rate is the adult Epic pass ( 699 to 799) the others have increased substantially Senior Epic (399 to 599 ) 70's pass (155 to 199) window day tickets (125/133 to 139/153 my guess for 2019 150-154 /holiday 165-168) THE STRATEGY is to make other prices so expensive that people will be forced to buy the Epic pass .Reduced season passes were introduced in the US in the late 90's as they found they made more money-it only came in here in 2011.The window price at Vail is $209 on blackout days for the AUS Epic ($294 aud -pays for itself in 3 days) at Whistler day 178 cad-this does meet the advertised 4 days! I only had the 70's pass last season so was not sure if I would ski o/seas-picked up a cheap flight adl-lax for $940 rtn (Air NZ) and skied 10 areas that were free for over 70's ( in CA'AZ and NM)
     
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  10. nezumi

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    Has anyone kept track of the dates and volume of changes in pricing for the Epic Pass?

    The variance in the types of passes available and the locations they can be used is a bit ridiculous - almost enough to push someone towards waiting for the Norther Hemisphere passes rather than buying the Aus version.

    I also find it astounding that they close the Epic pass sale window prior to commencement of the season - this does very little to encourage first-timers to have a go at the sport. Unless Vail's intention is to have these customers directed to smaller resorts, in the hope that they get the bug and buy an Epic pass in later years?
     
  11. heathy

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  12. person s

    person s Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    also got me a free 5-day pass in Hakuba last month
     
  13. heathy

    heathy Hard Yards

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    It is all about selling Epic passes If you do not buy before the start of they are waiting to screw you. The US Epic pass for 19/20 will be released shortly but it is for Perisher season 20. Full pass will be in the region of $1350 aud local epic $1050 (same conditions /restrictions as Aus Epic. The full US Epic is not worth it and the US local epic is not also as it is much dearer tha Aus Epic for the same thing. There is enough resorts in the local pass to have a good trip.
     
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  14. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Also Rusutsu next year .
    Its smart. Captures those people that go to Japan.
     
  15. heathy

    heathy Hard Yards

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    Aus Epic PRICES FOR SEASON 18/19. Initial release aug 18 $799 mid sept $ 819 dec? $839 26 feb 19 $ 859 may be another $20 increase before the start of the season
     
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  16. nezumi

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    Cheers!
     
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  17. Brimmo

    Brimmo Hard Yards

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    absentskier Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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  19. Jacko4650

    Jacko4650 One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Interesting article. I was more interested in the house prices at the back of their magazine! !!!!!! Numerous homes over $13million (US). Yikes, I'll settle for a 2 bedroom unit at the bargain price of $2.4mill. Ouch.
     
  20. skinavy

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    $129 USD for the Military Epic pass, doesn't give you Europe or Japan (only valid for Vail owned properties), but is a deal you can't beat.
     
  21. currawong

    currawong Old but not so Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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  22. Lady Penelope

    Lady Penelope One of some lot ... Ski Pass: Gold

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  23. dawooduck

    dawooduck relaxed and comfortable Ski Pass: Gold

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    It's an interesting equation for the non travelling skier where the mentioned advance purchase $106 day tickets meaning that season pass break even rate would be back up to 8+ days.

    Also a season pass commitment is a big chunk of money for non committed skiers to place down in one go.

    The methodology appears to be about getting uncommitted day trippers to commit in advance.

    Skiing by subscription
     
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  24. ralf_plough

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    PSR - Gee I hope my dole payment comes through in time for my Epic pass!
     
  25. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I was told there was quite the thread on that last night.
     
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  26. ralf_plough

    ralf_plough One of Us

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    Yep, farcical.
     
  27. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    OP was cuzzie bro of one of my best mates
     
  28. chicski

    chicski A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Jindy noticeboard?

    Payment made. Weekend warrior I am o_O
     
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  29. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    No PSR.
    Wife showed me
     
  30. chicski

    chicski A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Basically. OP pays the $49
    The OPs husbands boss passes away.
    Obvious loss of income prevents ability to pay for pass.
    Perisher refused to cancel transaction.
     
  32. chicski

    chicski A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Get another job? Evil Perisher.
     
  33. currawong

    currawong Old but not so Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    yes it's a contract to pay the remainder when due but I thought ongoing goodwill would matter. why piss off a skier for life. offering a credit for next year costs you nothing really.
     
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  34. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    They did that for my wife. Twice. She was in a minor car prang after the balance was paid-before the pass was used.

    Then refunded the money. So I can't talk too badly of them.
     
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  35. skiflat

    skiflat Old n' Crusty

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    Good luck them chasing up the final payment if the person doesn't want to go ahead with it
     
  36. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Pretty much. Though they'll close your profile.
     
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  37. skiflat

    skiflat Old n' Crusty

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    Correct
    BANNED as such under "your name"
     
  38. chicski

    chicski A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    They’re a business to make money, not friends. They can cancel their card and lose the deposit, they won’t chase them legally for $700.

    When you enter a contract, you assume the risk. Sucks but can’t blame Perisher. As for loyalty, I don’t think they would be worried about that. They have a bit of a monopoly on the product they offer.
     
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  39. fenrir

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    Yeah I was honestly amazed when I checked the fine print and realised it was such a draconian policy. Although it did make me overcome my apathy to follow through and book a Whistler holiday next year as originally intended so in some ways I'm grateful.
    Having done that though I'm kind of anxious for them to finalise payments. Has anyone had their final payment come out yet? I haven't noticed any charges on my card.
     
  40. Ted Harper

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    Yes, appeared yesterday on mine.
     
  41. Marty_McSly

    Marty_McSly Backwards to the future! Ski Pass: Gold

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    Mine processed overnight. IIRC they charge the final payments over 3 days. Only start to worry if there's no charge by Star Wars Day.
     
  42. Arsas

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    I like this little note on the perisher shop page. I assume a lot of people have thought 'I will just delete all my card details and it will be fine they wont chase there money'

     
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  43. skiflat

    skiflat Old n' Crusty

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    Lol desperate measures

    If people don't want their passes anymore then so be it
     
  44. fenrir

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    It's about what's reasonable.

    If, like Thredbo the $50 down was considered a deposit that would be forfeited if you don't complete the sale that would be reasonable as you could say it's a processing fee.

    Instead the $50 deposit is used to harvest payment details sufficient to extract payment in full. Why not be upfront about it and just take payment in full?
     
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  45. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Cause Perisher want the cashflow in a quiet time........
     
  46. chicski

    chicski A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    I guess if you don’t like their conditions, you could always not buy it.
     
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  47. fenrir

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    Honestly I'm ok with how it worked out for me this time (hell it's the first season where I'm living close enough to visit KNP every weekend), but now that I'm fully aware of the conditions I won't be buying the Epic Pass again before May when I have a solid idea of my travel plans.
     
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    I would concur that they need to be absolutle explicit that the initial payment is a commitment to purchase, not a deposit of any form. The advantage to the timing from a consumer's perspective is twofold - for those who don't have the cash available, it gives them time to save up, rather than paying the full amount at the time of purchase. For those who *do* have the cash available, it means they don't suffer the opportunity cost on that money - If you have $750 on hand, you can throw it in something that earns money for you while you wait, rather than giving it over to the lift company. Even using a mortgage offset for that period of time would be preferable.
     
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  49. chicski

    chicski A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    They are. It’s in their terms and conditions which you have to agree to on purchase. If you don’t read them, then your bad.

    If you don’t like the T&C, don’t buy or as @fenrir says, delay purchase (and pay a bit extra) until you’re sure.
     
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    person s Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I've been buying these passes since the first Freedom Pass, and it's always been explicitly stated that the first payment was a commitment to buy which would be followed up in early May with a direct debit to the nominated card