2020 / 2021 - Canada

Sbooker

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Canada just closed the country to all flights from Britain for at least 72 hours.

Anyone thinking we'd be back to normal soon should think again.
I had no idea Canada was open to the British.
Why? I assumed being closed to the US would automatically make them closed to everyone else.
 

main street

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I had no idea Canada was open to the British.
Why? I assumed being closed to the US would automatically make them closed to everyone else.

It's not open to the British or anyone else per se.

Canada has always been open to its citizens & residents + essential services coming home by air, providing screening and quarantine protocols are observed.

This latest move closes that door as well to Britain for at least the next 72 hrs.
 

Sbooker

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It's not open to the British or anyone else per se.

Canada has always been open to its citizens & residents + essential services coming home by air, providing screening and quarantine protocols are observed.

This latest move closes that door as well to Britain for at least the next 72 hrs.
Got it.
 

Chalkie

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So many other ways to worship. 99% of churches are complying, but three congregations believe God wants them to lodge a civil rights complaint that the orders have infringed their Charter rights of religious freedom. FFS.

They've clearly never read neither the Charter nor any of the case law about the reasonable limits provision in section 1 of the Charter.
 

sly_karma

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I had no idea Canada was open to the British.
Why? I assumed being closed to the US would automatically make them closed to everyone else.
And FWIW people can fly between Canada and US provided they have their written quarantine plan approved by CBP (US) or CBSA (Canada). No federally supervised $2000 hotel stay here. Different outlook. They don't have the quarantine island mentality shared by Aust and NZ - which given the environmental disasters of the past 200 years is perfectly understandable.
 

sly_karma

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I love my neighbour.

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main street

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Ontario ski hills to be shut down along with the rest of the state on Boxing day.....

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/can...kdown-begins-on-boxing-day-not-christmas-eve/

People just won't learn & do the right thing...... Big White's major fu** up with now a 96 case cluster is not doing any of the BC ski hills any favors at all.

Bonnie Henry has said BC hills won't be shut down,.... Yet. .... My guess is they are a hairs breadth away now....
 
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main street

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Figured 72 hrs was just the start....

Canada extends U.K. flight ban 2 more weeks amid COVID-19 mutations
Canada will extend its ban on flights from the United Kingdom another two weeks in order to prevent the spread of a new coronavirus strain, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced Wednesday.
 

Gumbie

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Kicking horse and Fernie trip report.
We left our home in Calgary and headed out to Golden for the first leg of our road trip. The gondola is struggling with covid restrictions, 2, 3 or 4 per cohort when a gondola should have 8 really blows the wait time. We stayed in the lower mountain quad which had 20cm anyway and was more than enough for the family to kick around on.
Everyone is masked and mostly doing the right thing but with only 4 cases in Golden the locals are somewhat relaxed about things.
30cm on the 22nd meant we were digging out the car from our Airbnb and joining the queue for the gondola at 845. We eventually arrived at the top at 1115 and stayed high for the remainder of the day.
Most knee deep wind packed powder snow. A dream come true for me, and seeing kids smash through as well was truly amazing.
On to Fernie for Christmas and mostly icy to begin with but 5 - 10cm transformed the mountain and we've had a great time. Favourite run has been under White Pass quad.
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Gumbie

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Kimberley ski resort.
After Fernie the skiing was more to Mrs Gumbie's liking. A nice VRBO/airbnb condo with ski in-ski out and no other booking since 30 November made it affordable and covid safe.
Very relaxing skiing around the whole mountain with the kids picking off the steeper sections as we cruised the greens. The night skiing was fun and off the quad. The fireworks were cancelled due to covid on New year's Eve which was a letdown, but we're used to that now.
For those planning road trips I agree with most comments, it's worth a visit, very family friendly but two days is all you really need. The platzl downtown is nice to visit as well.
Mostly cloudy with a few cents over corduroy was very nice early, and when the sun comes out the views are beautiful.
The best part was heading away from the night lights and skiing under a near full moon, above the clouds with the moon lighting up everything. An amazing end to 2020.
On to Panorama......
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KneeDeep

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When I was in Kimberley, no snow and no lifts.
Had all these lifts marked on the map but didn't exist. Only a few old pylons from previous lifts.
 

bomber

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People will need to start doing the right thing across the rest of Canada..... Quebec is in some serious trouble....

Quebec headed for full lockdown, curfews beginning Saturday: report (msn.com)
Met an older person and his wife who live in Ontario but have a place near the gondola in Whistler. He was telling me he was coming over on Jan 12 for 3 months. Sounds like his plan may be on hold. Last 2 times at Whistler met them in the line for the gondola. Great the friendships that skiing allows you to make.
 
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main street

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Met an older person and his wife who live in Ontario but have a place near the gondola in Whistler. He was telling me he was coming over on Jan 12 for 3 months. Sounds like his plan may be on hold. Last 2 times at Whistler met them in the line for the gondola. Great the friendships that skiing allows you to make.

Well,.... Ontario is not that far behind Quebec and it's got it's own version of a lockdown currently too.....

Then there's the fact that BC has "banned" all interprovincial travel,..... I don't see how their plans will be met with much favour in BC....
 

Gumbie

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Panorama ski resort report.
We're still managing to avoid covid, although for every experience we say we'll see how that goes in 4 or 5 days. As to essential travel, there were a lot of Alberta plates at Panorama. We stayed in Invermere as the hill was booked out in our price range during the holidays. I imagine many people were from Calgary so we tried to be extra careful. Everyone at the ski hills is pretty much doing all they can. Stay local orders have been followed by majority, only Alberta politicians think it's ok to do a Scomo and fly to Hawaii!
As to the skiing, first day was spent with wife exploring lower mountain. Plenty of choice of blue groomers and a day can go quite quickly.
20cm-30cm overnight and fresh tracks could be found until about 11am even with a crowded chair in the village. I don't know where everyone went. A few runs down through fresh snow was an experience to last me a while, I don't know when I'll get back to the Rockies.
Kiddos made it to their first double diamond run. We take this with a grain of salt at family friendly Panorama, but they were stoked (and made it down alive).
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We cold ways spend more time in each resort but on the mountain collective panorama was a great couple if days. The drive through Kootenay National Park was awesome as well, with some snow shoeing stops along the way. Lake Louise on way back to Calgary next.
 

Captain Caveman

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Panorama ski resort report.
We're still managing to avoid covid, although for every experience we say we'll see how that goes in 4 or 5 days. As to essential travel, there were a lot of Alberta plates at Panorama. We stayed in Invermere as the hill was booked out in our price range during the holidays. I imagine many people were from Calgary so we tried to be extra careful. Everyone at the ski hills is pretty much doing all they can. Stay local orders have been followed by majority, only Alberta politicians think it's ok to do a Scomo and fly to Hawaii!
As to the skiing, first day was spent with wife exploring lower mountain. Plenty of choice of blue groomers and a day can go quite quickly.
20cm-30cm overnight and fresh tracks could be found until about 11am even with a crowded chair in the village. I don't know where everyone went. A few runs down through fresh snow was an experience to last me a while, I don't know when I'll get back to the Rockies.
Kiddos made it to their first double diamond run. We take this with a grain of salt at family friendly Panorama, but they were stoked (and made it down alive).
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We cold ways spend more time in each resort but on the mountain collective panorama was a great couple if days. The drive through Kootenay National Park was awesome as well, with some snow shoeing stops along the way. Lake Louise on way back to Calgary next.


Great pics.
Just for fun, how is it you and the fam have the opportunity to travel from Aus to Canada during Chinavirus??
 

absentskier

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Panorama ski resort report.
We're still managing to avoid covid, although for every experience we say we'll see how that goes in 4 or 5 days. As to essential travel, there were a lot of Alberta plates at Panorama. We stayed in Invermere as the hill was booked out in our price range during the holidays. I imagine many people were from Calgary so we tried to be extra careful. Everyone at the ski hills is pretty much doing all they can. Stay local orders have been followed by majority, only Alberta politicians think it's ok to do a Scomo and fly to Hawaii!
As to the skiing, first day was spent with wife exploring lower mountain. Plenty of choice of blue groomers and a day can go quite quickly.
20cm-30cm overnight and fresh tracks could be found until about 11am even with a crowded chair in the village. I don't know where everyone went. A few runs down through fresh snow was an experience to last me a while, I don't know when I'll get back to the Rockies.
Kiddos made it to their first double diamond run. We take this with a grain of salt at family friendly Panorama, but they were stoked (and made it down alive).
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We cold ways spend more time in each resort but on the mountain collective panorama was a great couple if days. The drive through Kootenay National Park was awesome as well, with some snow shoeing stops along the way. Lake Louise on way back to Calgary next.
I know you barely got to scratch the surface, but what were your impressions of Panorama vis a vis other resorts you have visited?
 

Gumbie

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Great pics.
Just for fun, how is it you and the fam have the opportunity to travel from Aus to Canada during Chinavirus??
We have been on teacher exchange for 2020, arriving in December 19. We went to Hawaii and Colorado on way over. I'm glad we didn't leave our USA leg till the end.

What timing eh?

We have had highs and lows. The biggest low was the march lockdown and losing our family season pass to Lake Louise. I'd waited a long time for that spring.
The biggest high is the snow gods delivering in October, so we've skied Oct, Nov, Dec and Jan. 11 resorts and my ski goals attached to the exchange have come true.
Our last ski was at Calgary Olympic Park on Thursday night when news hit of the new restrictions announced by Scomo. We are due to fly out on Saturday morning here and arrive Monday morning Australian tune, so the journey is just about over. We should sneak in before the restrictions take place.
It will be weird being in Australia during covid. The kids have certainly learned some resilience, which is the goal if an exchange, but Boy O Boy what a year.
 

Gumbie

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Lake Louise.
This resort has been our home resort and it was nice to finish here as we headed back to Calgary. Kids were pretty much beginners in Colorado and very nervous here in early January. What a difference a year makes!
13 year old ripped the double black diamond runs in the back bowl. Miss 10 year old achieved her goal of completing Exhibition, a long black bumpy run under the Ptarmigan chair. Wife was a little overawed but made it around blue Boomerang run to enjoy back bowl in full sunshine. Just a magnificent day.
Next day the son and I checked out the new West Bowl. Unfortunately it was cloudy and snowing, so a great adventure from the summit heading into the mist, with some fresh tracks well earned and through the treed gully well worth the effort.
We stayed at the Mountaineer Lodge. The price, the kitchenette, the free shuttle, this place is excellent. How do we stump up for so much for accom in resort or Jindy in Australia?
I got one week as a kid in Selwyn when I was 9. My goal was to give my kids a better snow experience and I think they've done alright.
Huge covid warming tents are set up where a cramped Temple Lodge used to the trick.

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Gumbie

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11th hour calls for an 11th resort. Sorry, ski hill.

Why not finish at Lake Louise? With the expression "I've got an opportunity to ski in Canada and I'm gonna take it", we did our last few turns in Calgary before heading home.

Just a bit of fun enjoying where Eddie the Eagle flew and remembering the Jamaican bobsled team.
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Gumbie

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I know you barely got to scratch the surface, but what were your impressions of Panorama vis a vis other resorts you have visited?
I think that Panorama has a lot to offer. But you're right, we only scratched the surface. We never ventured into "Teynton bowl". As panorama is all below the tree line there was no sense of a beautiful bowl.
The inverted commas above sets the scene for how I would compare the resorts. For me the best resorts have a true bowl.
I'll cherish the memory of hiking from the Stoke Chair and turning the corner for the view of The North Bowl at Revelstoke, and then waiting for my son to catch up and be equally impressed. That's why we came to The Canadian Rockies.
Being able to drop into a bowl is even better. So comparing Fernie this way, with true large bowls, but you can't really drop in, you mostly traverse.
So the big ones are deservedly so, Lake Louise, Revelstoke, Fernie, Kicking Horse.
Then great ski destinations, Sun Peaks, Sunshine, Panorama are all awesome.
Then next rung, Kimberley, Nakiska, Norquay and COP are all worth visiting.
Despite an wonderful early some terrain wasn't open. We missed Goats Eye at Sunshine and Peak chair at Fernie.
 

Chalkie

A Local
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A bit belated, but time's getting away from me right now with various things. Here are some pics from my week at Whistler the week before last. It was a "typical" Whistler week:

Monday - had bucketed down almost non-stop the week before and overnight Sun-Mon, so close to if not the best snow I've ever skied at Whistler!

Tuesday - atmospheric river (aka pineapple express) blew in and it rained all day up to the top of the mountain. We'd been watching the forecast very closely and cancelled our reservation the night before.

Wednesday - dawned with sun and lots of enthusiasts wanting to head up early. Bitter disappointed awaited at the top. A combination of icy corduroy on piste, and very nasty crème brûlée off piste and on ungroomed runs. I'd never really encountered crème brûlée of this type before - two inches of crusty, flaky ice covering deep custardy snow from Monday. The crust not deep enough or solid enough to edge on, so putting any weight downhill would break the custard and result in sinking into porridgey snow that acted as a brake. A friend who lives at Whistler and is a crackerjack and lifelong skier had a nasty fall in the crème brûlée and tore her meniscus in one knee and sprained the other. We had one crème brûlée encounter and stuck to groomers after that. A ski patroller to whom we were chatting said the morning pre-opening patrolling was "brutal".

Thursday - cooler temperatures hung around and no more precipitation. The grooming team worked hard overnight to fix things up. Some nice snow hanging around at the very top of Blackcomb, but the day was quite overcast and totally flat light over there - so quite a lot of ski by feel. Twas very nice at 7th Heaven in the afternoon sun (as long as you stuck to the groomers - tried a little off piste and the crème brûlée of death was still about).

Friday - bluebird day. Bit of an improvement in spots off piste as things gradually became more "hard packed" with no precip and steadily cool temps. Was a gorgeous day to be out enjoying the mountains.

Here's a few pics:

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Ret-ro

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We have been on teacher exchange for 2020, arriving in December 19. We went to Hawaii and Colorado on way over. I'm glad we didn't leave our USA leg till the end.

What timing eh?

We have had highs and lows. The biggest low was the march lockdown and losing our family season pass to Lake Louise. I'd waited a long time for that spring.
The biggest high is the snow gods delivering in October, so we've skied Oct, Nov, Dec and Jan. 11 resorts and my ski goals attached to the exchange have come true.
Our last ski was at Calgary Olympic Park on Thursday night when news hit of the new restrictions announced by Scomo. We are due to fly out on Saturday morning here and arrive Monday morning Australian tune, so the journey is just about over. We should sneak in before the restrictions take place.
It will be weird being in Australia during covid. The kids have certainly learned some resilience, which is the goal if an exchange, but Boy O Boy what a year.
Being in Australia during the no-covid, you mean
 

Gumbie

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That is what I mean yes.

It was very weird to go back in my auditorium at school and receive welcome back hugs and handshakes. I felt really nervous and I'm not normally like that. I had joked about making ourselves paranoid while traveling and skiing in BC and Alberta but I actually had.
But, I must admit it didn't take too long too shrug and go with it. You souind look paranoid to try to socially distance in Australia.
There were many comments like "oh, was it bad over there?"
 

Chalkie

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My small tour of some BC interior hills continues. I posted about Sun Peaks in the SP thread (Sun Peaks 2020-2021), and Revelstoke in the Staying In Touch thread (Staying in touch - Brief travel reports). Here's my report on Panorama.

It's a ripper place to ski! If steeps are your thing - check. If bumps, bumps and bumps are your thing - check. If trees are your thing - check. But I thought the best thing about Panorama was the (what seemed like) mile wide black and blue groomers that went on and on, and the arresting views of the, well, panorama as you skied them. Being here mid-week during the pandemic meant we basically had them to ourselves, so we could cruise or ski fast without worrying (too much) about other folks cramping our style.

We stayed at Taynton Lodge (ski in/out access because we are relentlessly lazy in this regard and will pay for convenience), but I can't offer restaurant reviews as we ate every meal in - breakfast, lunch and dinner. The convenience of the location meant that popping in for a toastie and a proper cuppa at midday was too easy. And I'd worked out the catering so we still had three nights of dinners to consume (and thanks to @main street for his care package, which we're eating tonight!), so restaurant eating wasn't on the agenda. We had a one BR apartment at Taynton, which had a full kitchen and was pretty roomy and comfy. The ski locker room and that sort of stuff was all pretty straightforward. We did a load of laundry in the laundry room (make sure you have loonies on hand).

Here's some pics of what we saw as we skied:

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main street

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Good call IMHO.

Australia is officially extending its international travel ban for three more months.

Australia's government announced Tuesday that it is extending the travel ban through June 17, 2021. The initial ban had been set to expire on March 17, however, the government noted fear that the rest of the world "continues to pose an unacceptable public health risk" to its borders, Australia's 7 News reported.

"The Australian Health Protection Principal Committee has advised the Australian Government the COVID-19 situation overseas continues to pose an unacceptable public health risk to Australia, including the emergence of more highly transmissible variants," Health Minister Greg Hunt said in a statement. "The extension of the emergency period for a further three months is about mitigating that risk for everyone's health and safety."
 

Captain Caveman

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Good call IMHO.

Australia is officially extending its international travel ban for three more months.

Australia's government announced Tuesday that it is extending the travel ban through June 17, 2021. The initial ban had been set to expire on March 17, however, the government noted fear that the rest of the world "continues to pose an unacceptable public health risk" to its borders, Australia's 7 News reported.

"The Australian Health Protection Principal Committee has advised the Australian Government the COVID-19 situation overseas continues to pose an unacceptable public health risk to Australia, including the emergence of more highly transmissible variants," Health Minister Greg Hunt said in a statement. "The extension of the emergency period for a further three months is about mitigating that risk for everyone's health and safety."
Agreed , def good call. I suspect it will go through to this time next year to be honest. We are not even close to being ready
 

Chalkie

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Whistler, 8 March 2021:

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Keepin' it real with Whistler crowds. This is on a Monday, not a holiday week, albeit after 3 days of snow. Remember this is primarily locals (although Quebeckers are making up the numbers...). The physical distancing protocols are having a real effect on the speed of chair loading - Harmony is a 6 person chair - things would have been moving far more quickly had each space been able to be filled - some chairs were going up with two people on them (if couples were unwilling to share with others).

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Something I really noticed today was the difference between the coastal snow and interior snow, even in the good conditions at Whistler yesterday. Coastal snow - much moister and heavier, and pushed into bumps far more readily than the interior snow (much drier and lighter). Really noticed it towards the end of the day - the Whistler slopes were very chopped up and skiing was more of an effort than was the case in the interior at the end of the day.
 

sly_karma

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I often go to Whistler in April to work on the Whistler Cup race event, and doing laps can be quite a workout later in the day. Snow pushed around into mini bumps, a la Supertrail. No poles and usually carrying some kind of gear, you want to do long round turns to conserve speed and legs, but the choppy surface works against that. Love the energy of this event but the surface conditions remind me why I haven't skied in Australia for 30 years.
 
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Sbooker

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I often go to Whistler in April to work on the Whistler Cup race event, and doing laps can be quite a workout later in the day. Snow pushed around into mini bumps, a la Supertrail. No poles and usually carrying some kind of gear, you want to do long round turns to conserve speed and legs, but the choppy surface works against that. Love the energy of this event but the surface conditions remind me why I haven't skied in Australia for 30 years.
I’ve had some great days in Whistler in early April. Everything above mid mountain is lovely. The run home (to the bottom) is wonderfully tiresome. It makes the beer at GLC extra good.
 

sly_karma

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Fair number of laps during a race day with setup, sync, re-sync, teardown, relocating gear to other courses, etc. Usually I CBF skiing down at the end of the day in junk conditions so its a gondola download.
 

Chalkie

A Local
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And, just like that, Whistler's 20-21 season (and mine, for that matter) seems to be over. While the Provincial Health Order says it's only until 19 April, the lifties were saying they could not see how the resort would re-open for skiing. See: https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/covid-19/info/restrictions#whistler

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Which is a pity, as I am currently here, and this brings an end to my season. I honestly cannot grumble and I am very, very, very grateful that I had a Canadian ski season, which included skiing at 4 hills I'd never skied at before! This was today (and similar weather forecast for tomorrow):

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And a very friendly sooty or dusky grouse (I think...) who came to visit my ski:

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