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2021 Epic Australia Pass $859

Discussion in 'Snow Talk' started by skiflat, Sep 10, 2020.

  1. chicski

    chicski A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    LOLLOLLOL
     
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  2. coolair

    coolair One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Thought i would sneak in the pass purchace past the boss , orderd off the app on my phone,2 minutes later
    I get a phone call," why are you getting email receipts from Vail group".
    Season 21, bring it on.
     
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  3. JM72

    JM72 One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Just bought mine,
    Wife; "what are you doing? "
    Me; "Nuffing":whistle:
     
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  4. MarkV

    MarkV One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Bought mine yesterday. Fingers crossed for 2021!
     
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  5. nfip

    nfip Cold n' Rusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I'm in.
    Tho am a bit sceptical with the refunds / insurance.
    Mate of mine appears to have been royally shafted this year by the fine print rather than a fair and reasonable judgement being applied to his circumstances.
     
  6. chicski

    chicski A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    I’m in too. And have paid a deposit for the uni kid. I reckon she’ll make use of it and am planning to take her to Canada with me in 2022 (touch wood).
     
  7. Dropbear

    Dropbear Hard Yards

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    The "ski free after 5 days" marketing line risks being a little misleading, as it assumes that the non-season pass alternative involves buying full-priced tickets for 1 or 2 days every time, which is of course the most expensive way to ski.

    Buying 3+ multiday tickets or mate's-rates tickets from other season pass holders would reduce your costs as a non-season pass holder, raising the threshold for the season pass to break even.

    I don't have the numbers from previous seasons at hand to share with Nitroaddict, but would suggest from our number crunching that the season pass breaks even after ~10+ days. This is, of course, precisely where the season pass is marketed - to try to get the 1-week-a-year skiers to pay a little bit more (and to commit upfront) for a lot more potential value.

    Being a city dweller like Nitro, I do 3-5 days in the resort plus other trips for side and backcountry. I bought season passes on 4 previous years where I stayed down there for 3-4 weeks at a time, but have stopped buying them for now.

    So if you're not doing that many days in the resort, then do have a think whether the season pass is worth it for you. If you're doing lots of days, go for it.
     
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  8. skifree

    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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  9. Ret-ro

    Ret-ro One of Us

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    Crazy ...ski for a week just get the value and use overseas ..
     
  10. nfip

    nfip Cold n' Rusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    yeah my Uni kid got her deposit paid also.
     
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  11. Swede

    Swede One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    As I said, I only ski weekends and if you do then five days and you are in front.
     
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  12. emkae

    emkae One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    There are many ways to slice and dice it. Previously we would opt for 3 adult family members with season passes. For next year we have gone for 2 SP but taking advantage of the discounted day tickets provided, for the one person with less free time next year for extended periods of skiing
     
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  13. Slalom

    Slalom A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Just paid my deposit too.
    Always get a good buzz once you commit.
    Here’s to an amazing 2021.
     
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  14. Lady Penelope

    Lady Penelope One of some lot ... Ski Pass: Gold

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    I’ve locked in my pass and ones for my boys too. As a Canberra resident it makes for an easy trip, and even with the challenges of this season I managed 19 days at Perisher. I suspect COVID-19 will still be around (and no vaccine yet available) for 2021, so am purchasing with my eyes wide open.
     
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  15. DidSurfNowSki

    DidSurfNowSki One of them Ski Pass: Gold

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    Oh alright then. :D
     
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  16. Muddy

    Muddy Hard Yards

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    considering whether to throw down a deposit or just wait and see what happens. I think it's likely we won't have a vaccine prior to the next Aus season so restrictions would likely apply again in season 2021, making the pass less attractive to me (for my own uninteresting reasons). I'm a bit tempted to risk the deposit anyway, but a bit concerned about the below extract from the Ts&Cs. It could be read as saying if you decide to put down a deposit you are 100% committed to buying the pass and can't cancel before the final payment. Any thoughts?

    BY PAYING EITHER YOUR INITIAL PAYMENT OR YOUR PAYMENT IN FULL FOR YOUR EPIC AUSTRALIA PASS(ES) YOU UNDERSTAND AND ACKNOWLEDGE THAT YOU ARE COMMITTING TO BUY THE EPIC AUSTRALIA PASS(ES)FOR THE 2021 AUSTRALIAN SEASON AND THE 2021-2022 NORTHERN HEMISPHERE SEASON. YOU UNDERSTAND AND ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WHEN PURCHASING EPIC AUSTRALIA PASS(ES)WITH AN INITIAL PAYMENT, YOU REPRESENT THAT THE CREDIT CARD YOU PROVIDE WILL BE AUTHORIZED FOR PAYMENT OF THE REMAINING BALANCE OF YOUR PURCHASE ON OR ABOUT 1 MAY 2021 OR A LATER DATE AS COMMUNICATED BY US. WHERE YOU FAIL TO PAY THE REMAINING BALANCE WHEN IT FALLS DUE PRIOR TO THE COMMENCEMENT OF THE 2021 AUSTRALIAN SKI SEASON, YOU FORFEIT ANY RIGHT TO THE PASS. YOU WILL NOT BE ENTITLED TO CANCEL OR OBTAIN A REFUND ON YOUR EPIC AUSTRALIA PASS(ES) PURCHASE AFTER THE INITIAL PART PAYMENT OR FULL PAYMENT OR RECEIVE A REFUND OF THE EPIC AUSTRALIA PASS(ES) FEES (OR ANY PART THEREOF) UNLESS: 1) WE HAVE FAILED TO COMPLY WITH THE CONSUMER...​
     
  17. emkae

    emkae One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    The T&Cs are pretty clear- it isn’t a deposit, it is the initial payment you are paying. You are committing to pay the outstanding balance when it is due
     
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  18. currawong

    currawong Old but not so Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yep, deposit is an inappropriate term. It is just the 1st instalment. Don't do it unless you intend paying the remaining amount in may.

    Read the insurance provisions. Expect them to honour what is promised, but not anything that isn't.
     
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  19. nitroaddict

    nitroaddict First Runs

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    10 days seems like a lot to breakeven. I would have thought by my calculations that a 3 day weekend plus a couple of weekends on top would be enough to equal the price of the pass. Assuming also that lift pass prices will increase again next year.

    Alternatively, what are my other options? So far, ive seen Mountain Collective, and groupon deals which may work out cheaper depending on how many days you go.

    Weird that no one has past lift ticket prices.
     
  20. Jonathan_P

    Jonathan_P One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    This was from 2019 have to factor in 2 years worth of price rises and depending on Covid restrictions if they even offer these types of options.

    https://onsnow.com.au/wp-content/up...p-2019-Lift-Passes-Lessons-Hire-Pricelist.pdf

    Current daily ticket pricing is $152

    Now if you go back to school holidays this year this was the pricing ouch.

    One thing to factor in on top of that early on you had reservation system for epic pass holders up until around the 18th July. For me the system was terrible I could not get one single day luckily my accommodation allowed me to move to late end of season. Hopefully they will improve this next year.
     
  21. Swede

    Swede One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Not sure why anyone would collect old lift ticket prices, they go up a little bit each year and so do season passes. I'd think most people have worked out what works for them and stick to it.
    If you ski weekends breaking even after five days has been the situation pretty much since the introduction of cheap season passes, before that it was about 10 days when the pass was at around $1400.
     
  22. Jonathan_P

    Jonathan_P One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    I prefer your approach, I think it’s easier:)
     
  23. Goski

    Goski One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    emkae One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    For 2021:


    • Back for 2021! 6 Bring a Mate discount invitations: Guests will receive 6 invites for discounted, 1 day lift tickets valid across Perisher, Falls Creek or Hotham to share with your mates and when they buy online in advance, they can save up to 50%.
     
  25. Goski

    Goski One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Yes, I've just found that after switching to my laptop instead of my tiny device. Do you thin this applies to a child pass?
     
  26. emkae

    emkae One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Doesn’t say. Best to check with Epic on this kind of detail
     
  27. Goski

    Goski One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    For the Mates invites it is "up to" 50%. From this cynical me assumes that weekend discounts will be minimal, maybe 10% or 20% and would probably they have to be purchased in advance by xxx? days. I'm trying to decide whether to buy 2 Adults Passes and 2 Child/Secondary passes or 1 of each then use the discounts for the other adult and secondary student. I will likely ski 10+ days but my wife and kids (in year 11 next year) are more likely to fall between 5 and 10 days including a 5 day mid-week. Of course if the weather is really crap on some days in that mid-week maybe we'd ski 3 of 5 days on that trip,
     
  28. Goski

    Goski One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    The devil lies in the detail.
     
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  29. Goski

    Goski One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    I've emailed my enquiry to Epic Australia to clarify if Bring a Mate applies to the child/secondary passes. Still not phone number to call them.
    I do note that with the discounts only applying to single day tickets they may not be worth much on weekends, school holidays or peak season.
     
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  30. Goski

    Goski One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    The other consideration is that if covid restrictions in 2021 require bookings again and limited non-pass tickets then without an Epic pass per family member we might not be able to get tickets or allocations for everybody on the same day.
     
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  31. Chaeron

    Chaeron Ski-Hike-Blade-Bike-Kayak Ski Pass: Gold

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    That’s the core issue.
     
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  32. skiflat

    skiflat Old n' Crusty

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    Nothing about that here when I checked out
     
  33. Chaeron

    Chaeron Ski-Hike-Blade-Bike-Kayak Ski Pass: Gold

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    Log back in, go to personal preferences and then select each individual and then you have the option to nominate a core resort/ period.
     
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  34. emkae

    emkae One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Found it!

    It is in Account -> Epic Coverage

    You can set it once for yourself and let that be the default for everyone in your family
     
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  35. Goski

    Goski One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    @Chaeron you are now listed as an "OutLiar", what's that about?

    I asked Epic via email earlier today if the STUDENT pass also gets Bring a Mate invites and if they can be used for adults and what % discounts would apply to weekends and school holidays. The response below wasn't definitive so I've asked for clarification in a second query. The purchase in advance requirement reduces the value for me. Could require weeks to get up to the 50% discount rate. Weather and snow conditions are important for me when deciding to book and pack and travel and go up to ski.

    "Thanks for contacting the Epic Australia Pass team.
    Bring A Mate tickets can be purchased for any age – Adult, Student or Over 65. The pricing can be up to 50% off depending on day purchasing for and how far in advance. We cannot provide an estimate cost as we have not released lift ticket pricing for 2021 winter."
     
  36. Chaeron

    Chaeron Ski-Hike-Blade-Bike-Kayak Ski Pass: Gold

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    Good to know Epic are on it.

    ( @Goski - my new ‘byline’ is just a bad Dad pun - combining the idea of statistical outlier with out and out liar - of course, outing yourself as a liar - do people know if you’re telling the truth? - Homage to one of my favourite paradoxes: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liar_paradox: “Epimenides, a Cretan, reportedly stated that "All Cretans are liars.”)
     
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  37. skiflat

    skiflat Old n' Crusty

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    Totally blank for me...
     
  38. Chaeron

    Chaeron Ski-Hike-Blade-Bike-Kayak Ski Pass: Gold

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    Epic website or via Falls/ Hotham / Perisher.
     
  39. skiflat

    skiflat Old n' Crusty

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    Epic Aus.
     
  40. Chaeron

    Chaeron Ski-Hike-Blade-Bike-Kayak Ski Pass: Gold

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    once logged in click on yr ID & then open 1st tab down - Epic Coverage
     
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  41. skiflat

    skiflat Old n' Crusty

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    Thanks.

    Can see your DOB there......

    Yeah mine is blank tried different browsers too

    Sent them an email...
     
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  42. Chaeron

    Chaeron Ski-Hike-Blade-Bike-Kayak Ski Pass: Gold

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    :)
     
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  43. Tom from Melbourne

    Tom from Melbourne One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Didn't know about those preferences.

    Does anyone know how much do they influence the refund / insurance process?
     
  44. Jonathan_P

    Jonathan_P One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    100% this needs to be factored in, from my perspective the reservation system was not good, didn’t secure 1 single day whilst that was in place whilst others managed multiple days and I feel 1 person who secured every single day.

    I was lucky that my accommodation provider allowed me to move the dates albeit in the middle of spring. The ones later in the season told me it was my problem, which it is so fair enough.

    Had it continued it would of been interesting how many days I could of secured.
     
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  45. Chaeron

    Chaeron Ski-Hike-Blade-Bike-Kayak Ski Pass: Gold

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    Significantly - e.g. if you live in Vic and have nominated Perisher as your chosen resort and the NSW border closes you would be eligible for a refund.

    Equally, say you nominate Hotham and it closes, then you’re eligible. If you did not nominate they could refuse a refund on the basis that Perisher/Falls was still open.
     
  46. skiflat

    skiflat Old n' Crusty

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    Email reply.

    May take 48 hours to allow selections or preferences to occur. As I only purchased this pass now
     
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  47. Tom from Melbourne

    Tom from Melbourne One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Thanks @Chaeron, I've put Falls for 2nd week of July school holidays - haven't booked anything but it's a safe bet.
     
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    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    Done.
    That’ll be the first time I’ve been “epic”.
     
  49. Chaeron

    Chaeron Ski-Hike-Blade-Bike-Kayak Ski Pass: Gold

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    Domestic season coming up.... now all you have to do is convince Vail to build a snow mountain in WA....
     
  50. skiflat

    skiflat Old n' Crusty

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    May need a kids pass too now. 6 year old..

    Seems they would get up to 20% off lessons too??