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22 Designs Outlaw NTN Binding

Discussion in 'Backcountry' started by skifree, Oct 9, 2019.

  1. skifree

    skifree grey Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    It appears we don’t have a plain 22 Designs Outlaw NTN Binding thread. Till now.

    So how much does it really weigh? Came up a query this week.




    Complete pair of Outlaw in the box.



    The box only. So we have.

    1742 - 93 = 1649 / 2 = 824.5 / binding.
     
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  2. Untele-whippet

    Untele-whippet beard stroker Ski Pass: Gold

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    A chap we were touring with in NZ had icing issues under his duckbutt when in walk mode causing him to walk out of his Outlaws twice whilst skinning on terrain where this was undesirable!
     
  3. telecrag

    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Kate gave up on them after icing issues too. Steve loves them....
     
  4. skifree

    skifree grey Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Mostly on the basis of the break body parts to break binding parts ratio. So far the binding is winning as if doesn’t break he doesn’t have to repair it.
     
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    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Binding breaking is my catastrophic release method!
     
  6. skifree

    skifree grey Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    I’m not familiar with the Outlaw’s particular icing issues.

    But my theory is all termark bindings are / will be subject to some sort of icing issue in some conditions due the fact of the binding movement.

    I also have a theory that icing issues in telemark bindings is reduced by better technique.
     
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  7. telecrag

    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    My Freerides ice up under the binding, you feel it pretty quick though, and stab it out with the pole. Only on powder days, it gets compacted in there over time. Have never had issues stepping in or out though. I remember Kate faffing for about 15 mins one day trying to get in her Outlaws.
     
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    skifree grey Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    You can now use a binding with better release with breakage still as the fall back.;)
     
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  9. buckwheat

    buckwheat One of Us

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    Ive got a set of both outlaw and outlaw x. Never had any icing issues, but certainly getting in and out is more of a faff than it should be!
     
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