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Observations 2nd-10th August - Hand of Faith

Discussion in 'Alpine & Snow' started by POW_hungry, Aug 3, 2020.

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  1. Ultra2.0

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    core seams to be heading for Sussex, unusual direction of travel for an ECL
     
  2. MattyHoll

    MattyHoll Hard Yards

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    My thoughts on the drive up to kiandra today. Any snow that fell yesterday has pretty much all washed away. Even at 1400m this afternoon (3 - 4pm) it was rain, not snow.
     
  3. Undies

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    5cm on snow stake so far. Pretty surprised.
     
  4. Jellybeans

    Jellybeans not woke enough Ski Pass: Gold

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    Looks like all of the fun stuff is north of the Monaro, per the radar.
     
  5. POW_hungry

    POW_hungry Old n' Crusty Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Today was within 10mm or so of what was put forward by the models, as below. Precip verified IMO.
    The let down today (IMO) was lower level temps, which proved to under-verifiy by 100-200m.




    4pm Wagga Wagga GFS:


    Observed 3pm:
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  6. dawooduck

    dawooduck relaxed and comfortable Ski Pass: Gold

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    I joked three days ago about "Vancouver weather" .... it's another very damp morning on the Jindy North Shore.
     
  7. SMSkier

    SMSkier One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Perisher Valley car park...... damp. Temps hovering around zero. Slush in the carpark area.

    Was rain driving through the park and turned to slush about Smigs.

    Icy mix building slowly on the windscreen.

    Might be some net gains at higher elevations but I think heavy going at best... that’s a guess though.

    EDIT: .....Needed an explanatory pic!

     
  8. POW_hungry

    POW_hungry Old n' Crusty Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Perisher reporting 5cm since yesterday.
     
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    Hate posting these sorts of obs but they’re important- mizzle in Thredbo village, very damp, not exactly rushing to get up there today:

     
  10. Ret-ro

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    So close , but no prize ..
     
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    Lady Penelope One of some lot ... Ski Pass: Gold

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    I wouldn’t. Belting down rain in the village since late yesterday afternoon. Damp ....
     
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    Myazma One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Sub optimal conditions, way below my fun level, pass.
     
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  13. 1000m

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    Snowing in Crookwell. Not really much settling yet. Will head out soon and have a drive around (Laggan Grabben Gullen) etc and see how the accumulation is going there as they are higher and colder than town. Very very wet here.
     
  14. Rat trap bindings

    Rat trap bindings One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    And using the 10mm = 100cm of fluff..the 50mm since 9am = 5cm = Lots of what I’m having for breakfast...porridge with maple syrup topping..
     
  15. Ret-ro

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    Watch the time lapse on the ill place Perisher stick , through from yesterday .. It rained all night on and off . Pity , -5 and the wind , weather from the south west is what is needed .. pity
     
  16. 1000m

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    Redground just north of Crookwell
     

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    Snowing steadily here in Orange now after a mix of snow and rain earlier but not settling yet temp at Orange Ap. now down to 1.7 deg. Very much a surprise for me today at 885 m asl.
     
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    Jellybeans not woke enough Ski Pass: Gold

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    Porters Retreat, NSW (from FB):
     
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  19. bas1

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    Apparently settled snow on the Oberon plateau
     
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    Very cold and wet in Canberra. Would that it were 1000m higher in elevation!
     
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  22. Rat trap bindings

    Rat trap bindings One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Whoops... I need an uppercut BOM predicted low snow and I’ll never ever doubt again!
     

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  23. SMSkier

    SMSkier One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Can confirm snow was very, very difficult to navigate away from the groomed runs. As heavy as it gets and still be snow IMO.....Groomers ok. Difficult to ascertain the net gain as Mt P was yet to open at circa 10:30 due to the conditions.

    The moisture runs deep.....It’s going to be an interesting freeze assuming overnight temps drop over the coming week.

    Currently heavy wet sleet and snow falling at PV carpark level.
     
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  24. Old School Mike

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    Pog here at Perisher. Raining and soaked. So much for the big dump last night.
     
  25. POW_hungry

    POW_hungry Old n' Crusty Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Since about 5pm last night we haven't seen anything remotely heavy on the MR to combat that 1700m FL.
    Everything remained north of Bega unfortunately.
     
  26. Mister Tee on XC Skis

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  27. chicski

    chicski A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Federal Highway south now closed due to flooding. Clouds starting to lift in Canberra.
     
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  28. rowdyflat

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    Unusually warm today, 15 degrees in Yack. foehn effect again from the easterly flow .
    Everyone who usually rides together, separate on the mtbike tracks.
    BTW maddest looking weather map BOM Weds PM ie lack of isobars ?
     
  29. zapruda

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    Can’t see anything on the ranges sadly.

     
  30. Lady Penelope

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    Damp is probably the best word to describe Thredbo today although the clear stuff was turning to graupel around 1pm up at the Cruiser area (when we pulled up stumps). Snow suffered - Dream Run looked more like a nightmare - but the groomers did well with the other major trails. Unfortunately way more rain than snow ...
     
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  31. rocketboy

    rocketboy One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    I reckon we dodged another wet Sunday dog. Precip numbers on PV BOM are the best you'll see when Noah is staring down at you. This could have been a season killer day with a 100mm at 2C - instead it's just a crap day in a typical Aussie ski season. Sure, Thredbo got whacked a bit more down low - but a bit of rain is the least of their worries with a broken snow making system that's generally needed all season at 1300m. I expect it will be a delayed start on both hills tomorrow as they clean up from Glugfest #2. But should be all good for a few days after that on the groomers. Until the next August event.
     
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  32. Trail Blazer

    Trail Blazer Part of the Furniture

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    I'm astonished that so much of this was rain even at Perisher's elevation. With those temps I though it'd be okay.
     
  33. snowgum

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    At the risk of deflecting the thread to a Vic (Closed shop) discussion, this is all too familiar in Vic hills even in a normal year - especially on the smaller hills near Melbourne and Buller - one never takes snow for granted down these parts.

    Im sorry for you guys - it’s awful skiing in rain and glug - no wax can really over suction from that type of affliction. Even Hakuba had days like this in Feb :confused: - Seeing Japan snow struggle at times made me feel kinder towards Aussie snow ‘challenges’! :cool:
     
  34. Untele-whippet

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    Steady rain now and temp dropping 2.6 C.
    Mt Victoria BMs
     
  35. Homer

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    So close to a good fall of white stuff!!
     
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  36. Untele-whippet

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    Just started to snow here.
    Wet flakes.
     
  37. Swiss

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    We passed through at around 11:30 and I'm suprised it wasn't shut then.

    Some poor sod has lost their new car and has some explaining to do to Kennards Hire. Aquaplaning plus trailer would be my guess.



     

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    sbm_ One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Yeah was just going to post. Sleet/wintery mix in Blackheath upper Blue Mountains. Snow/ice outside temperature warning light in the car.
     
  39. chicski

    chicski A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Wonder if the trailer started to float.
     
  40. POW_hungry

    POW_hungry Old n' Crusty Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    You've entered the 'heavy' band of rain.
    That evaporative cooling that the Snowies so desperately needed.
     
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    What an absolute fizzer of a system, was always going to be very volatile and unpredictable but jeez The Frog is going to cop a belting for this one as he was claiming well over A metre of fresh, he got a lot of peoples hopes up on this one
     
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  42. MisterMxyzptlk

    MisterMxyzptlk Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Maybe a rename of the system from Hand of Faith to Can of Coke
    Wet and fizzy
     
  43. POW_hungry

    POW_hungry Old n' Crusty Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Classic Aus.
    Proves you can pour over charts all you want but weather in the mountains will do what it wants.
     
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    POW_hungry Old n' Crusty Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Having said that snowing heavily on High Noon.
    ...And EMPTY.
     
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    Yep classic Oz, if only the mountains were 200m higher, or the temperature 1C cooler :rolleyes: Speaking of 200m higher, the main range will have seen the precipitation as all snow, 2000m + I think.

    Actually not a complete fizzer in reality, just seems that way after the unrealistically high expectations set by the BOM’s upgrades etc. For Perisher, friday afternoon was good, saturday morning was pretty decent, sunday a disappointment. However, definitely still a significant net gain, especially above 1800m

    I always tell people, we can prognosticate as much as we like over the forecasts, but the weather is going to do what it is going to do, we can’t change it. We can only ski innthe conditions we are given on any day
     
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    Kletterer Thredbo Doughnut Tragic Moderator

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    Thredbo was fun in the damp conditions today. Rain Shells and Goretex gloves a minimum requirement.
     
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    Snowing at Hampton. 1000ASL
     
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    To be fair POW the whole evaporative cooling theory might have been Arnhem Bridge for this system IMO
     
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    Kletterer Thredbo Doughnut Tragic Moderator

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    It was all i could think of at the time and it was a rather bold leap of faith. At least we got some weather.
     
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    POW_hungry Old n' Crusty Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    It never got heavy enough.
    We saw fall rates of 1-2mm/hour for the most part. Useless.
    Models were calling for up to 3-5mm/hour right up until Friday's run (HERE)
    It simply never stacked up.
     
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