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Discussion in 'Alpine & Snow' started by Warlock_01, May 9, 2018.
I agree more than 250 for me. Nearly got there last year.
Currently 2 degrees Thredbo village. Light misty rain to moderate rain all day. Snow line retreated from valley up to mid mountain. Looked wet up top today -1 up top atm so probably light snow and a freeze.
Winds at Point Perpendicular ( NSW Coast) are now strongest all day 54kmh and 87kmh gust. Barely more than half that at Newcastle.
Huey is not happy with you!
And I thought it was blowing while waiting for my flight home.
welcome to the Sth Coast
Meanwhile in the nation’s capital we’ve had a tremendous 2mm of rain from this system. The big dry continues ...
Now sitting under the fan wearing singlet and shorts. I'll swap you anyday.
and we hit 32.7 in Perth today
Hotham tweet (yesterday afternoon)
What a glorious picture.
10c and blowing showers across Jindabyne. Time for Red wine, fire and footy again after a great mothers day lunch at the bowlo
Each time today I thought it might clear the rain showers hit. Boot fitting with Andy Burford at Crackenback - it was cold with light rain coming straight up the Thredbo Valley. Looks like some continued clearing at Moonbah with patches of blue sky looking towards Perisher, but some cloud over the range still. Thredbo tonight (dinner) where I suspect the bulk of the showers will be done. That should be the end of this current weather event.
Sydney weather was bizarre today. Warmish, windy, showery, sunny, chilly. Could not make up its mind! Had a lovely Mother's Day anyway. Got new ski pants from the kids
Anyone know what the storm totals were for NSW / VIC resorts from this system?
I'd hazard a guess and say 20-25cm for NSW, 20-30 cents for Vic.
So much for the 2 feet plus that was being predicted by many!
End result doesn't really matter though as there aren't any lifts spinning (yet) and it's still early days.....hopefully it's positive sign for the season to come.
Even if 10cms remains, that will be a big win this early in the season. Enough to freeze the ground and get the man made stuff to stick on top. Cold temps this week will help
I observe I'm very happy I didn't bet against @Kletterer for this system.
Except snow doesn't freeze the ground...just saying .
Huge win for the resorts IMO to get a solid, early dump like this - gets everyone thinking about snow and I'd imagine people will start thinking about booking their trips, accommodation etc this week.
Back on topic, solid later afternoon to overnight showers in Sydney and the cool, overcast Melbourne - like weather continues. Looks like it could rain again any minute but also the sun is in poking its head in and out.....currently 15.2 in Frenchs Forest
Was nice and foggy in Melbourne this morning. Very winter like.
Yep, frost freezes the ground.
Well thermodynamically speaking, it probably doesn't matter if and how much frost there is , I mean after a frost which is going to be a few cm (mm?) at most the thermal heat store of the top earth layer is going to overwhelm the frozen layer in time, just because there's so much of it.
Frost would be good to let the snow stick to the ground, but after say 10 cm of snow are down on the ground, the snow earth boundary layer will settle to melting point and stay at that temperature until the last bit of snow has melted from the top in spring. What keeps the snow from staying is it's low thermal conductivity not a frozen ground.I suspect, I would be amazed if there were measurements to refute this (In Australia).
And some said the freezing levels in the non technical easy to understand Snow-forecast post I did before the event were wrong.. seems to my observations that it was pretty accurate all round..?/
GFS does tend to wobble around run to run even in the mid-range progs, and it’s important not to confuse ‘freeze level’ with snowfall level.
Whilst the mm rainfall was way off by GFS, I agree the freeze level seems not far off the money in retrospect, as it largely fell as snow Friday night down around 1600m with a steady rise from Saturday AM.
IMO rain & soggy conditions were always a risk on the Saturday, so yep, I agree it wasn’t far off in terms of heat advection.
You know what I think about that.
Perth has always been known as the end of the earth.
I think it was the part of Australia Paul Keating was thinking about most.
Nope. Paul's brain was stuck in a clock that he bought from Switzerland that was broken.
View of the main range this morning.
So, no lifts turning this weekend?
Sure is a bust. Will be lucky to see any action on June 2nd at this rate. The overnight temps are a tad warm. Snow making is going limited. Won’t be surprised to see first spins delayed until Friday June 8 at best.
Given they’re not due to open until Saturday 9th, it’s not really a delay
You were there earlier than that last year. Faux powder Tuesday was a blast last year. If the temps are low enough - and snow gets machined out - they'll repeat last year's week earlier opening. Otherwise it will be a "one-turn carpet" LWE opening.
Yes. But my point is that official opening date this year is Saturday 9/6. It’s not a delay until after that.
@rocketboy going all glass half empty
There were some here just about guaranteeing lifts turning this week with huge snowfalls out of that system that was going to shut down the Monaro from Cooma.
Think rocket is being realistic as a look out to the lovely blue skies that are forecast for the next week.
With all the frothing and media hype that goes on every year when it snows in April or May, some of us just tell it like it is.
Half empty is reality. Half full is spin.
The 4 days lead up showed lots of Divergence at low levels over the Alps regions. It was never going to fly without descent bouyancy.