A New Wonnangatta Mystery

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I suspect it was probably just an escaped campfire that burnt their tent and scorched their car, followed by an attempt to walk out. Either that or they got lost in the very rugged terrain before the fire escaped.

Depending what direction they headed they could have encountered difficulties in recently flooded river crossings, seriously big cliffs or simple exposure followed by hypothermia.

We will need to wait until the issue is resolved, but I would be rather surprised if there was any foul play involved.
 

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I suspect it was probably just an escaped campfire that burnt their tent and scorched their car, followed by an attempt to walk out. Either that or they got lost in the very rugged terrain before the fire escaped.

Depending what direction they headed they could have encountered difficulties in recently flooded river crossings, seriously big cliffs or simple exposure followed by hypothermia.

We will need to wait until the issue is resolved, but I would be rather surprised if there was any foul play involved.

Sounds more liken the latter as the site was apparently seen by other campers and was fine after they went missing.
 

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I suspect it was probably just an escaped campfire that burnt their tent and scorched their car, followed by an attempt to walk out. Either that or they got lost in the very rugged terrain before the fire escaped.

Depending what direction they headed they could have encountered difficulties in recently flooded river crossings, seriously big cliffs or simple exposure followed by hypothermia.

We will need to wait until the issue is resolved, but I would be rather surprised if there was any foul play involved.
Car was totally fine based on pics. Even had the keys in it.
 
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There have been a few instances over the past couple of years of disappearances that haven't been resolved - Con Whitlock from last year springs to mind.
 

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It is odd. It is a remote area. Just because they can drive in using a 4 WD does not mean they have/had the bushwalking survival skills to survive when it comes to the crunch. ( yes I know there is a "Mighty Boosh " skit about the crunch etc.). Their age might be useful in terms of decades of experience or it could work against them for other reasons.

The Dry river track leads up to the Howitt road , not far from the Howitt plains hut. The Howitt road usually has some 4 WD traffic on it in Autumn . However with the lock down it would be rather deserted now.
 

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It is odd. It is a remote area. Just because they can drive in using a 4 WD does not mean they have/had the bushwalking survival skills to survive when it comes to the crunch.
Sounds more to me like someone didn't read the article:
"Mr Hill, an experienced bushman and former logger who knew the area well"
 

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Whilst it may be irrelevant it would be interesting to know WHO/WHY they were reported 'missing' on the 26th March (same day their camp was witnessed as 'normal'), when they we're expected to return home on the 29th.

That's the odd bit of missing detail.

Even if you consider the fire to be 'circumstantial'.
 

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Sounds more to me like someone didn't read the article:
"Mr Hill, an experienced bushman and former logger who knew the area well"
Fair enough but the word 'experienced ' means many things to many people when viewed through the prism of mainstream media reporting. The man in question may have spent much time in the bush during his days of cutting timber but that is not the same as navigating in a trackless wilderness in bad weather.
 
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Sounds more to me like someone didn't read the article:
"Mr Hill, an experienced bushman and former logger who knew the area well"
Ah yes, but was he as experienced as those above who wish to comment. I am not sure bushwalking survival skills would be of an advantage in Wonnangatta when you have a pretty good camp and an apparently functioning vehicle. I found it interesting it was reported he had HF radio. Could not see the antenna in the photo but people who have this (in lieu of a sat phone) are generally well versed in travelling to remote places. It was used to communicate once and it would have been used again if needed. These people are clearly not walkers and with communication, food and water they would have sat put and waited for help. If a fire had destroyed their camp then again it would have been used. Also, please be sensitive people. It has happened before that family or friends read our words of speculation.
 
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I found it interesting it was reported he had HF radio. Could not see the antenna in the photo but people who have this (in lieu of a sat phone) are generally well versed in travelling to remote places. It was used to communicate once and it would have been used again if needed.
Previous articles do say:
He was making regular check-ins to friends via radio each night.
The 74-year-old was last heard from on March 20 via HF radio, when he advised he was having radio transmission issues. He was confirmed to be at Wonnangatta station.

"Mr Hill is an experienced camper and knows the area really well," Insp. Craig Gaffee said.

"However when he does go camping and he does quite often, he maintains daily contact, which hasn't occurred on this occasion."
 
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The likely scenario is one of the party members got into strife maybe at the river
The other one went to help and met the same fate
Only lurid speculation would involve an unidentified 3rd party
 
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Previous articles do say:
The article I read made gave the impression it was vehicle transmission and not radio. Could be some confusion with the reporting from different sources. Would not be the first time the media got things wrong. I am really not into speculating fate from sketchy media reports. What is clear though, and something you have pointed out, he was experienced.
 
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Search to resume. His wife, who thought he was camping on his own, wishes them both found alive but thinks they are dead. Radio Transmission issues? Maybe convenient so he does not have to keep lying to the wife.
 

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Sly does know how to spin a yarn....misadventure rather than murder would account for most of these disappearances - and the wide, wild wastes of the Aussie Alps makes it difficult to find anyone.

Never let the facts get in the way of a good yarn...
 

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Sly does know how to spin a yarn....misadventure rather than murder would account for most of these disappearances - and the wide, wild wastes of the Aussie Alps makes it difficult to find anyone.

Never let the facts get in the way of a good yarn...
Outside of Bushfires and lockdown I am found in the Vic. Alps quite often and not always with company either. The elusive button man would have most likely shadowed me by now somewhere near Mt .Clear. He is so shadowy just like the character from Blackadder "The shadow"!.
 

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Or is it mythical button man :confused:..........this is how legends and tall tales become "reality". :eek:
Already in 4 posts the story has begun to accelerate. Just wait till someone on facebook gets hold of it.
You'll have Dan standing up before the media promising to have a public enquiry into him. LOLLOL

On the other side could from a distance Mr. Tee have been mistaken for button man o_O
 

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You missed the second edtitng Mr. Tee. I must have been tinkering with the story when you liked it.
Hope you still do ;)
 

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I do not match the description. While some of my jokes might seem odd I am not scary or spooky in person nor a master of stealth in the bush .

I dunno Mr T. I heard a story about a group of scouts on an overnight trip on the Bogong High Plains, one of which had brought an old guitar along. The kid was pretty new to the instrument, had to use a little battery tuner etc to get the instrument almost in tune.

Anyway, the kids had a sign-a-long around the fire, but the batteries in the tuner went flat (cold night etc) and the guitar started sounding pretty lousy. So they kids finished their rendition of 'Wonderfall' and hit the hay.

The scary thing is that in the morning they awoke to fine their guitar perfectly tuned and a single set of ski trails (probably epochs) heading off into the distance... Spooky.
 
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