Advice for an intermediate

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  1. skiersleft

    skiersleft Early Days

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    Hey all,

    Thinking about a trip to Falls for a couple/few nights in a couple weeks and just after some tips.

    1. What's the car parking situation like? Can I just park and walk and avoid the oversnow?

    2. How much harder is the drive compared to Buller? (in regards to road conditions, twists and turns)

    3. I normally ski the blues at Buller, what runs would be suitable for me up at Falls? And is 2 days of skiing enough to explore everything or 3 days?

    4. Any advice on where to eat on a budget? or is there a supermarket or something to get groceries to cook?

    Thanks a bunch in advance!
     
  2. Chaeron

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    1. What's the car parking situation like? Can I just park and walk and avoid the oversnow?

    Yes - If you can fit stuff into a back-pack and 2 bags to carry, and/ or do multiple trips and don’t mind walking up into the village from where you get dropped off at the terminal once you’ve parked your car for overnight. If you’ve got lots of stuff it becomes less practical to do this.

    You might arrive for day 1 and ski from the carpark, and then later take an initial load and drop if off at the lodge after lunch, and then do the same at the end of the day rather than doing it all when you arrive - depends on when you get into the resort.

    The guys directing you to park overnight will give you a lift back to the terminal - that’s not part of the oversnow. Try and park overnight at Lower Windy Corner rather than down the mountain. You could start off parked in the day visitor area at Windy Corner and then move your to the overnight parking car later at the end of the day....

    2. How much harder is the drive compared to Buller? (in regards to road conditions, twists and turns)

    It’s about the same - unless it snows a lot, unlikely this time of the season - just beware ice in the shade early morning.

    3. I normally ski the blues at Buller, what runs would be suitable for me up at Falls?

    All the blues and greens are fine - and if you have skied the steeper bits of Wombats at Buller then many of the Blacks are OK too - Blacks at Buller and Falls are comparative in difficulty.

    And is 2 days of skiing enough to explore everything or 3 days?

    Why ski 2 days if you can ski three? If it’s your first time at Falls go 3 days - Falls is a large place, and you also benefit from a more relaxed place on all 3 days.

    4. Any advice on where to eat on a budget? or is there a supermarket or something to get groceries to cook?

    There is a Foodworks, the YMCA cafe at Windy corner is good for budget meals, but there are lots of options. If you stay in a self-catering lodge then bring your own breakfast and stuff for lunch at the very least.

    Also, when you buy a lift ticket for a day you can frequently get the afternoon before after 3pm for free. If you book passes online more than about 5 days in advance you can get a better deal. You will need to buy a snowpass, like at Buller to load though (about $5).

    @Hully @currawong
     
  3. skiersleft

    skiersleft Early Days

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    That's super helpful thank you!! Sounds like I could dodge the oversnow, so you're saying Lower Windy Corner fills up later but is closer to the village?
    I've heard 'The Maze' is fun but it looks like all black runs, are they hard blacks or on the lighter side?
    I will be driving from Melbourne so trying to work out a way to maximize skiing time without breaking the budget, I really want to ski 3 days but stay 3 nights max.
     
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    2: The drive is definitely longer and twistier than Buller but it's not really hair raising at any point.

    3: Falls is a blue run skier's paradise. Best resort in Victoria hands down for Intermediate skiers.
     
  5. currawong

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    walking up to the top of the village with much gear is a PITA. If you really want to avoid oversnow, try top stay somewhere low and close to drop off points at Gully, oversnow terminal or bottom of Slalom st.

    IIRC Buller drive is a bit twistier than Falls.

    Most of the blue runs are south facing and get progressively steeper as you move from skiers' left to right. ie Drovers is easiest, getting progressively a bit harder as you move to ruined castle (skip dark side and shadow ridge initially). Village is also blue and from there you can get a look at the groomed blacks of summit & international. The maze runs are narrower and rarely groomed and quite long so maybe leave them till you are confident on everything else.

    I don't understand the 2 days vs 3 days question. I've been skiing Falls for over 35 years and still love it

    Other less expensive food
    early dinner specials at Elk
    check out what the special is at Frying Pan in, eg Wednesdays are $1 chicken wings IIRC
    toasted sandwich at The Pass for lunch
     
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  6. Chaeron

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    Wot she said.
     
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  7. Chaeron

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    Wot he said
     
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  8. skiersleft

    skiersleft Early Days

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    sounds perfect!
    great thanks for the advice on runs, sounds like the maze will be for a future trip!
    I just meant is 2 days enough to cover everything but I was doubtful and these responses have confirmed that I think, looks like 3 days of skiing is the way to go! Accomodation doesn't seem as expensive as I thought if I have a group of 4
     
  9. Chaeron

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    This approach isn’t for everyone - I go to bed early the night before, leave Melbourne at 3:00 or 4:00 am, arrive at 8:00 or 8:30 as lifts open ( 5 hrs drive approx.). If needed I catnap on the side of the Hume so I arrive fresh enough to enjoy the day.

    Similarly, on the last day I pack up early, either leaving my luggage in the lodge to pick up at the end of the day, or take it down to the car early, moving the car to day parking.

    However, this depends on the car not being parked down the mountain in the lower bays on the side of the BHP road below the village down to Howman’s Gap as oversnow/ overnight parking shuttle only runs from 8:00....

    To get down the mountain I either leave at 4pm before the slow rush down, or postpone leaving till 6pm.
     
  10. skiersleft

    skiersleft Early Days

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    Is moving your car between overnight parking and day parking allowed/easy? I was planning on skiing the last day and leaving once lifts close, would definitely consider doing the early morning drive up for the first day depending on if other commitments allow this.
    If I wanted to drive up early and ski the whole first day (e.g. drive up saturday morning to ski that whole day then stay from that night) do I park in overnight straight away or park in day carpark then move into overnight later in the day?
     
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    If I was arriving early to ski that day I would park in day car park and then move to overnight later. The system is that when you want to go to overnight parking, you drive to the oversnow terminal, look for the signs and wait for an escort vehicle. they will take you to a carpark and drive you back to oversnow terminal. if you decide to ignore the rules and park yourself you will probably have to walk back from the car park. You may get told off or made to park where they want you.

    when it's time to collect your car, go to oversnow and they will drive you to your car, or walk if you know where it is and it's not too far.

    in late season it's probably not an issue, but in peak season parking on weekends is very busy. overnight parking will probably be a long way below the village. the friday night arrivals will probably have taken all the higher car parks. waiting till saturday arvo to go to overnight parking may get you closer as some people leave. weekend day parking can also fill up pretty early in peak season so moving the car to day car park on day of departure shouldn't be left too late

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    after thought
    do not leave a car overnight in day parking. you will probably cop a fine. if it snows you also muck up snow clearing and make it harder for everyone
     
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    skiersleft Early Days

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    Right that makes sense, I only just found out that day carparking pass and overnight pass is the same but you just pay for the amount of days you'll be staying, thats correct isn't it?
     
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    not 100% sure. I've bought season entry passes for decades
     
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    Price it out on the website

    Arriving after 5pm and you don't pay for that day
     
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    Will do, thanks for that. Seems like a better system than Buller..?
     
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    skiersleft Early Days

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    so after a spontaneous idea with some friends, I am headed to Falls for the weekend! One thing I forgot to ask, which runs get the morning sun on them first? i.e. which runs will soften in the morning and which should I leave till the afternoon?? looking like some chilly temperatures overnight coming up
     
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    Beware the Friday afternoon Tulla/Hume crush out of Melbourne - leave before 2:30 or after 6....

    And there’s a good Kebab place in Benalla..
     
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    @currawong
     
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    North facing runs that soften first
    Green: wombats ramble
    Blue: last hoot
    Black: international

    Drovers and highway 83 would be next.

    At this time of year everything groomed is likely to be soft by lunch time, depending on tempersture and cloud cover. Scotts probably last.
    South facing off piste can stay quite firm for longer

    If you want to try any of the blacks around international, don't leave it too late. They can get very sloppy. Summit is not quite so sun drenched but on a warm day you probably don't want to be later than 10.
     
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    skiersleft Early Days

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    how far out does the traffic usually disperse?

    awesome thank you! so start might start with wombat ramble to warm up then move to the right, ill try the summit runs out on sunday maybe thank you!
     
  21. Chaeron

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    once you're past Beveridge it's OK - 1st 25km from the Ring Road though to Craigieburn very busy on a Friday arvo.
     
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    You want to start off your day by going up the fast new Eagle Chair in the Village Bowl to avoid the queus on the Falls Express.
     
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    Depending on where you are staying. Apologies if that was mentioned earlier but i can't recall it
     
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    skiersleft Early Days

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    Alright thanks for that, I am camping in Mt Beauty, I can't find the Falls Express?? What's Hailey's Comet like for queues?

    Also I was wondering where on the Hume that the traffic starts to clear up??
     
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    Falls Express = Halley's Comet.

    Hume traffic clears around Beveridge
     
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    skiersleft Early Days

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    Alrighty looks like I'll avoid the Comet chair then, thanks for your help!
     
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    Well, if coming from the road Eagle base access requires you first to take Gully chair which is slower than a wet day on snow.
    On Saturdays get to Halley's early (8.15) then avoid it except at lunch time (12-1 approx ?) . Sundays aren't so bad and as a single using the singles lane is usually pretty quick.
     
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    skiersleft Early Days

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    Yep cool, hoping to spend most of the day on the blue side of mountain (Drovers across to Ruined Castle) so should avoid the Comet lift mostly
     
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    Good idea.
     
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    I do envy Left, imagine having a whole new ski resort to discover and explore, only a few hours drive from your home!

    Many years ago, I was like that, I chased down all the resorts in Victoria and got to know them well. Years later I yearned for new lifted terrain to explore and staged expeditions to Thredbo, a Tassie trip to Mt Mawson and Ben Lomond and then more of NSW.

    These days I know most corners of Australian ski fields, but I remember back to my excitement on arriving at a new resort and anticipating all that new terrain to explore and learn about. I suspect even the most grizzled veterans can remember the thrill of a visiting a new Australian ski resort back in the time before they'd tried out almost everything.
     
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    skiersleft Early Days

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    It is a great feeling, O/S for you now Bogong??

    I will be keenly looking at the clock all day tomorrow I think... :nerd::nerd:
     
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    There's still Perisher and Charlotte Pass?
     
  33. Bogong

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    I've been there too, it's really just Selwyn that I need to visit, plus Cabramurra if the two lifts there are still spinning.
     
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    Corin Forest?
     
  35. Bogong

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    Well no.

    Sorry, but I'm not in the least bit OCD about things like that, so I wouldn't make a special trip just to ride on their carpet.
     
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