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Discussion in 'Snow Talk' started by The Snow Gauge, Apr 19, 2021.
Anyone have a hard date on this yet?
2nd half of May. And online.
Though some of the products may not turn up on time.........
Aldi not delivering?
Say it ain't so.
Is any of it sold in Brisbane stores?
I think qwill's comment will apply. Assuming supply is limited, stuff will be delivered to where people will buy.
Ah yes, he's Brisbane based. I'm in Brisbane during July getting the left hip sorted so want to have a look.
Online is stupid. The fun of the sale was the running of the bulls, the queue anticipation, gear flying everywhere, trying on 2 sets of pants and 3 jackets .... at the same time.
Reading the article, I think the ski sale will still be on in store. It’s just their other items they will be offering up online (I like the bit in the poll about “No [I won’t be doing online shopping], I like my grocery items thrown at me at the checkout” )
Pfft that’s where you failed.
You buy all 3 and return what doesn’t fit!
Surely you lot have enough stuff by now?
Or are Aldi’s colours just so delicious?
Surprised Aldi still has a return policy these days
Their very generous return policy is seen as a key part of their success.
It’s always an aspect where a small family owner retailer struggles to compete with the big players.
The limited choice of colours can work in your favour with kids.
With 523 kids dressed the same as yours on the slope, you just get to pick the one you really want to take home, no one will know the difference.
And their aim is to get rid of the small retailer. Once they've done that, they can jack their prices right up. Sort of like how Bunnings have got rid of most small hardware stores.
While I understand the resentment, that doesn't really seem to be part of their playbook, any more than, say, Ikea offering cheap furniture and then pushing other places out of business.
For Aldi, they have some niche items available at low cost once a year, not year round. There's a major difference between them and a specialist snow goods shop.
The people I know that own snow shops/ski shops welcome the Aldi sale.
It picks up business in their stores as well.
Introduces new people to the sport.
This. It does suck for the shops that operated at the budget end of the spectrum.
But overall I think it's great, lowers the barrier of entry of addiction, then when people graduate they realise the gear is a bit naff and all looks the same and start looking for established brands.
Its "gateway" gear.
Serious skiers will pick up a odd pair of socks or thermals.
Or apres slippers.
There may be exceptions (this forum) where people buy pants...
However for a family of five wanting to see the snow for the first time. Its a no brainer.
Makes it affordable (ish)
Ive still got an ALDI suit I bought as a joke. It still works OK too.
Its awesome gear for the money, but not awesome gear.
It's the gateway drug to the slopes. Aldi's loss leader is your gain.
They will be making plenty.
I'm not sure it would be a loss leader as such.
I crunched the margins on most of their products -re snow sale.
They're making money. No doubt about it.
Two things changed the face of snow sports in this country.
The Freedom Pass .
The Aldi ski sale.
I stand corrected. I'm not in the rag trade or the retail game anymore, I'd just assumed that originally, upon entry to the AUS market, Aldi was using the snow sale (and others specials) to build a loyal customer base etc. Anywayz, I still like the merino and the socks.
My family's business makes stuff for Aldi, they are a totally different beast to Coles and Woollies who we really don't want to work with any more. Colesworth comes in and screws you out of every cent so its no longer feasible to manufacture for them, Aldi says give us your best stuff, and we will order so much of it that you'll get good economies of scale and sell it to us a nice low price, but not so low that you are tempted to cut corners etc to make a profit.
I bought one of their "premium" brand INOC 3-in-1 jackets a few years back. Given that I overheat pretty easily, the ability to remove the insulation entirely is critical for me, and the cost difference between it and anything similar is pretty significant.
I had their entry pants and jacket previously, but the quality wasn't there in terms of durability - I ended up tearing through the material sliding on snow (and only snow) at Falls. To their credit, Aldi took the failed product back and refunded - they even sent out a postage paid parcel for me to send the gear back in, and paid out before it arrived.
That's how you build a good business.
I, like many others, used Aldi Snow gear as an introduction to the sport. The 'value' cannot be better, but now that I ski a lot, it doesn't stand up to the punishment (as a rule). Nonetheless, I treat a few items as 'seasonal' and so replenish each year. For me, that includes ski pants (own 3 pair, turf and replace one each season) and merino socks ( can never have too many!).
OTOH, I know a manufacturer of snow clothing that Aldi approached. Give us gloves they said at 80c, and we'll buy sh*tloads. Manufacturer told them where to go - they couldn't even get them out of China for that price.
Is that a rep knitting circle story that reps are so fond of?
Aldi has huge economies of scale with multiple sourcing agents based in China. They'd be negotiating direct with a factory.
You can see it in their production methods for goods ex China. They've got the factories that they use tied up with unique product designs.
I call BS on a Australian manufacturer being involved for goods ex China. Unless its a super niche product.
I know you love Aldi, but you're wrong. I was told by one of the owners of the Australian company.
You didn't call out Carveman on his family supplying Aldi, because they do. Aldi don't source everything from China direct.
We do manufacture a product for them that for regulatory reasons is orders of magnitude more difficult to get made offshore.
Its not about loving Aldi or not.
Its being in a position with my career where I spent the better half of 15 years bringing in around 50-60 containers of sporting goods from China. Understanding how the process works.
I'm absolutely sure that they get their gloves direct from China, because no one in Australia could possibly supply them for that price. But, what I'm saying is that they did approach an Australian company. I supplied the story of 80c gloves in response to someone above who thought that Aldi wasn't making a profit - that is was a loss leader. But you want to argue it. Whatever
Many Australians manufacture in China, though that would be getting interesting. Big difference still between dealing with a half Chinese manufacturer, and a full Chinese one IMO, some prefer the former, though the latter tends to be even cheaper.
But @Donzah would know that.
So I bought some "outdoor" type socks from Kmart recently, I have never been able to find good hiking socks and these are amazing!! Bamboo maybe? and wool ones as well.
I used to supply Aldi with a special buy product, always found them fair and reasonable to deal with.
I know of an Australian supplier who supplied Coles, Woolworths and Aldi. This supplier had a supply issue which they had no control over due to overseas manufacturing problems. This supplier approached Coles and Woolworths about the issue and they both said ‘so what not our problem, we’ll go elsewhere’. Aldi response was ‘ok we’ll work with you and support you while you sort it out’. Aldi saved his business!
This corroborates a TV news show I saw once interviewing a wine maker who just loved dealing with ALdi, said that the wine he supplied Aldi was generally better than what was sold through other channels.
We buy plenty of stuff from Aldi during winter. Cheese, biscuits, cling wrap, wine and the like but not ski gear. Not ever.
I agree with Aldi's entry to market in the grocery field. They were needed and still are. I've too heard they are great to deal with. I know what the other two are like to deal with, so not hard to be better.
Why won't I buy ski gear from them. Because unlike groceries, there are no massive deep pocketed competitors with questionable pricing or supplier policies. The market they are hitting with ski gear is a very small seasonal market and the competition is struggling already due to overseas e-tailers. There needs to be some protection for such an industry. I stand by this statement and that is, if you don't support it, you lose it. The result being greater obstacles to access, less variety to choose from and no access for service.
Their cheese if worlds better than what you can purchase through Coles or Woolies.
I'll counter this with a couple of points. I mentioned above that Aldi gear is gateway gear. Before they came along that end of the market was so undercooked and badly specced. With the exception of maybe XTM the brands that existed were charging way too much for what in reality was pretty much petrol station ski gear. The customers that are buying ski gear at Aldi would never have existed if not for their entry into the market. Its introduced new people to the sport.
Aldi does have some big pocketed competitors in that price point. Decathlon recently. While Anaconda and Rebel have been selling that gear for years. Woolworths attempted. However their stuff was crap.
As for the industry. When I was in wholsaling I dealt with nearly every snow/surf store in Vicco and NSW. My impression of them wasn't always that favourable. At all. Many of them seemed to be caught in this timeloop of a traditional retailing. Any change was frowned upon. It really was a case of Henny Penny. They just didn't want to evolve and innovate. There was a underlying culture of entitlement and elitism. Its almost as though they didn't want a entry level product in their store.
Walk into Larry Adler and you know who their target market is.
The other thing is that a large proportion of the aldi stuff is bought by people who will never go to the snow. They are just after thermals, puffer jackets, gloves etc for on the farm, backyard or work etc. There are not many ski shops in places like Armidale, Bathurst etc, but it gets very cold in winter.
Doesn't Costco have ski gear? Talking of deep pockets.
Socks and thermals are socks and thermals. I don't believe I've ever bought those at a specialist ski shop.