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Review All new DPS Wailer 100

Discussion in 'Equipment' started by DPS Driver, Apr 5, 2019.

  1. DPS Driver

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    emuch does it weigh?
     
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    Not specified in review.

    2005 grams at 184 length.
     
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    Which is why I asked.

    Too heavy.
     
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    Is it? Maybe some oomph is a good thing if it's not a tour construct
     
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    It would be more desirable if it was not trying to be a lead sled.
     
  7. piolet

    piolet Better make it three Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yeah
    Aren't most ski weights given for shorter than 184?
    Light ain't always right
     
  8. Chaeron

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    Because of the Wailer spoon front it skis like a shorter ski - it is awesome for what it does.

    The 100 is only available in 184 and 179 (C2 model)
     
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    No you're getting the W100 C2 we made for Powderworks mixed up with the new release W100. It's not a C2 chassis.

    This ski is 1880g @ 184cm. It's a standard Alchemist construction.
     
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    1880g at 184cm
     
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    :thumbs:
     
  12. Chaeron

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    Thx - my apologies - appreciate the clarification.

    At 1880g it’s in the ballpark
     
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    I’m going to get a pair of these at 179cm for my one quiver all mountain for Japan and Canada. Keep my shreditor 179cm and 92mm for Europe and Aus
     
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    Go hard in the front seat and get them on their edges - I only enjoy my Wailer 112s on piste when I consciously ski more agressively.

    Ironically, these wide skis on piste are more forgiving when one gets them on edge than otherwise - they ski easier when you drive them harder, and they’re easier on edge than many much narrower skis.

    They turn so much easier than other skis of equivalent length, given their design.

    Having said that, they’re beyond awesome in the fresh, and obviously not optimal for average Aussie crud.
     
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    Trigger pulled and work bonus blown but very excited to have pre-ordered the A100s RPs. They should arrive by July and ready for a week in Chile in august thanks @DPS Driver for info
     
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    Yes I'll be doing the SkiMag demo day in Thredbo with potential for others but that's the only one I'm locked into at present.
     
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    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This in spades.

    They need to be driven and on edge when on piste. They're not designed to run flat on piste. As soon as you edge them they come alive. My old W112RPC's just slaughtered the piste when on edge and they were 115 underfoot but try to run 'em flat and the don't like it.
     
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    I think @SMSkier is on the Tour chassis at present.
     
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    Yep. Should have clarified that.....
     
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    Yes, just ask @BrianWilson about W112s on piste, and his W99s following.
     
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    I've got a pair of 112's with Dynafit bindings but won't be setting up the 100's with demo tech bindings. What boot you running?
     
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    Scarpa Maestrale for touring. On King Pins....
     
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    I've got the full run down on the new constructions and it's pretty mind blowing where these skis are going. Just on the foam bit alone, I can tell you we've been playing with foam lay ups for over 5 years. That's about the time we started looking at Peter's block of foam again.
     
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    I picked up (i.e. fondled, I didn't buy them) a Wailer 99 Tour in Alpsport this afternoon. Damn me! There's not a lot of mass going on there.
     
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    @DPS Driver whats the run down of the Wailer 100 RP Tour, looks tasty at 1540g ish at 184.
     
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    Can't give you too much I'm sorry. I've got all of the detail re the new constructions but haven't fondled or skied one yet.

    From all reports the power to weight ratio is off the charts. The work the boys have been doing with the aerospace foam has been in play for 4-5 years now, so we've got it tuned. But alas I've not skied it.

    Based on the discussions I've had the downhill is up there with an alchemist in edge hold and the bio feedback is way down on the previous tour. I'm itching to get on a pair.
     
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    They have my money for a pair at 179.

    Just need them prior to November now.
     
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    @DPS Driver any update on Thredbo or Perisher dps demo?:)

    Folks ask me about the dps on the lifts and are interested in demo and chat but I’m short of info on that.:(
     
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    Hi Skifree, I was there for a few weeks early season but didn't unleaseh the demo fleet due to lack of snow. Then my son who was helping me had an accident a couple of days before the SkiMag demo weekend and we couldn't make it. I did post that here that I couldn't get there.

    I am looking at being down there in a month or so. I won't have the entire fleet but may have a few hand picked models. I will post on the forum if i get there and when.
     
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    Thanks @DPS Driver , i saw the cancellation post and hoped I’d waited long enough before asking about a replacement date.

    So maybe mid September.
     
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    Wildsnow froths and says...

    Wailer 100 Tech Specs
    Price: $1499! $US
    Weight: 1485 grams
    Length: 179 cm
    Rocker Type: Camber underfoot, rocker tip and tail
    Dimensions: 132 tip, 100 waist 117 in the tail
    Turning Radius: 15 meters

    But they havn't skied it.
     
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    You'll note we were heading down the superlight path and then changed direction. This ski is not about superlight, it's about downhill performance Oh! and uphill.
    I've not skied it but based on discussions I've had with the team, I would be confident to say there will not be another ski in this weight range that could match it for downhill performance. And I would also say there won't be one in that weight range with a full sidewall construction.
     
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    At 1500gm? Shit no. If any it’ll be a low number.
    Price is ‘eye-watering’ though, even for a wanker like me!
     
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    Has there been a thread on female-orientated ski names yet? I mean why do ski co's go limp on naming female skis? They could have called it the Screamer or the Shrieker. I guess they could have called it the Whiner too. Anyway, I've known a few Yvette's, all nice ladies to be sure. But that's a dud name for a ski.
     
  38. DPS Driver

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    Maybe.

    It's a bit more personal than that. They're named after women that have been in the DPS family so to speak, as a mark of respect.

    Don't have to be hard core with the name if the ski is.
     
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    So you are getting a pair then.......
     
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    They've been pretty close or at sub 1500 grams / ski for a while now. This is the ski weight for a Wailer 99 at 176 in i think Pure construction (def not the Tour construct) doesn't actually say on the ski.

    And this includes a bunch of epoxy filling holes and 13 inserts per ski. So they would have been sub 1500 bare.
     
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    My +0.95 Mk III has a pair of Nina 99........ but to her they are just her blue skis. If you know, you don't care what they are called.
     
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    It's a good reason, nice to have a bit of backstory on it.
     
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    Couldn't agree more. IMO both the super light and super wide trend are starting to phase out. Last season I used both DPS Wailer pure 112 and the heavier Wailer Alchemist 112. I know that is not the ski in this thread, but from the same family, all with lots of Rocker. I've skied both of these in lots of mixed terrain from, lightest powder to on piste to high wind blown BC ridges and I'll take the Alchemist in all conditions. Just has a beautiful solid feel underfoot in mixed terrain and drives effortlessly through deep powder. Sorry if slightly off topic for this thread.
     
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    It's all progression telenomore.

    "If nothing changes, nothing changes" is a saying I use a lot. However change should only occur if that change is a progression from the status quo. The Alchemist construction is the evolution of the older Pure construction. ie our top end performance ski. The changes in how we use prepreg carbon fibre and our understanding of it, have evolved considerably. A good way to evaluate this is to ride both on a hard pack and feel the difference.

    Where and how our foam cores evolve will be an interesting ride.
     
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