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Aomori and Akita Japan

Discussion in 'Japan' started by Chondro, Oct 27, 2016.

  1. Chondro

    Chondro One of Us

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    Looking at heading down to these prefectures for week or so in either mid January or late February.
    Will drive down from niseko (assuming you can with ferry?)

    Just wondering who has been here?
    What resorts are worth checking out?

    Looking to just do a couple resorts and some onsens.
    How will i go being heavily tattooed getting into onsens in these areas? Chest/back/full sleeves.

    Cheers in advance
     
  2. Ramenman

    Ramenman One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    If Aomori, Hakkoda mountains = It has the heaviest snow + snow monsters (Juhyo). It's very like Asahidake and Hakkoda mountains have several peaks(except one, you need to hike up by yourself, not by ropeway), so I recommend you hire a guide there.

    As to Onsens, I think Hakkoda Hotel will let you get into their onsens because it has many guests from Western countries.
    https://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_R...da_Hotel-Aomori_Aomori_Prefecture_Tohoku.html

    There is a very famous old traditional Japanese onsen "Sukayu" in Hakkoda, but not sure you can get into it with big tattoos.

    I heard Mt.Iwaki is great for heli-skiing, but I have never tried, so I don't know how it is like.
     
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  3. Heinz

    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Tazawako in Akita is good - there is an onsen village near the resort and a famous one Nyuto just up the road.
    Hakkoda in Aomori is bascicaqlly a single ropeway with some nice offpiste. Nice big bath in the hotel at the bottom or another famous one at Sukayu onsen down the road (need a car for that).
     
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  4. Heinz

    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    ah Tattoos - it's not Niseko, so that will likely be an issue...
     
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    Wow, talk about a culture shock going from Niseko down to Aomori.
     
  6. Ramenman

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    Yeah, Aomori is one of the least Tokyonized and Westernized prefectures of Japan. When Japan was being modernized in 1870 - 1910, many Honshu(=the mainland) Japanese people moved to Hokkaido island to cultivate the northern land. So Hokkaido dialect is not that different from Tokyo Japanese. But Aomori dialect is very different, and I heard most Japanese people don't understand Aomori dialect because Aomori was the furthest prefecture from Tokyo and there aren't new comers from different areas of Japan to Aomori. On the other hand, Hokkaido is a popular place for foreign tourists and mainland Japanese, so new people keep coming, so Hokkaido people are not that conservative compared to Aomori, Akita, etc.It's just my opinion, though.
     
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    This.
     
  8. Ramenman

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    If it's small tattoos, I think most onsens don't care now in 2016, but if it's very big ones, hmmmm, I'm not sure, it depends on the onsens and hotels. You can ask onsens / hotels beforehand by sending emails.
     
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  9. Chondro

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    Yeah, this is one of the major reasons im spending so long in niseko.
    I love to onsen, as does the wife after a day on mountain.

    I'm covered, full sleeves, full back, chest and sides
     
  10. Chondro

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    Yeah, I'm fairly interested in Aomori, only really have time for a week there tho. Same with Akita. Or could both be done in a week?
     
  11. Chondro

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    Will def hit up hokkoda then.
    Am i better off heading early jan or late feb?
     
  12. smackies

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    It gets weather. Hectic weather.

    January you would have to be lucky.
     
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    Will aim for late Feb then
     
  14. Chondro

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    Also, Not really. We have spent time travelling Honshu in the past, We know Niseko is not traditional japanese. Not going there for that, going there for the snow and the apres.

    Might come as a bit of a shock to you Verm, as I know you hate Niseko with a passion and will can it whenever you can, Most people don't go there to discover traditional Japan... They go there for powder/party and ski in ski out
     
  15. Ramenman

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    As to Hakkoda, it's the snowiest place in Japan(well, in the world), so January is good too, but if you want to see Juhyo & ski through Juhyo, February is better(mid to late January is also good)
     
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  16. M_G

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    It's usually only Japanese that are bothered by tattoos, given the connotation. If you choose a foreign owned place, or one with a private onsen, then you should be cool. However, as others point out, that is going to be a much harder in northern Honshu.
     
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  17. Ramenman

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    In Tripadvisor, a young heavily tattooed American girl who stayed at Hakkoda Hotel wrote
    So Hakkoda Hotel will let you enjoy their onsen.
    https://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_R...omori_Prefecture_Tohoku.html#review_357423004
     
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    I've said it before ...... Hakkoda is overrated , lots of terrain traps and wouldn't recommend venturing off the designated trails (2) without a local . The BC trip I did was just passable , more tour like than escorted . Weather mid Jan ferry cold .
     
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  19. Ramenman

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    Yep, a guide is needed to appreciate Hakkoda fully. Hakkoda mountains has only one ropeway to a peak and it only offers some designated trails, but if you have a guide, you can enjoy backcountry a lot. I remember Hakkoda has 4 or 5 peaks. Especially 3 of them are nice, but you would get lost and die without a guide, especially if go up to the peaks that don't have a ropeway.

    Anyway, if you like Asahidake(it's in Hokkaido), I assume you like Hakkoda too. And I think snowboarders will appreciate Hakkoda more than skiers do.
     
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  20. Heinz

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    You could hit one area in Aomori & one in Akita. Don't forget Iwate though which is next door. Tazawako is I think the biggest ski area in Akita and is just over the border and not far from Morioka. There are several ski areas that you can day trip from Morioka.

    Here is my Japan blog page which has stuff on various Tohoku areas.
    https://www.ski.com.au/xf/xfa-blog-category/japan.14/view-entries
     
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    The weather can get pretty severe at Hakkoda at times in February and presumably January. The Juhyo are still around in April although smaller when the weather is certainly milder.
     
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    It's Tohoku and as yet still relatively few foreigners about. Not aware of any foreign owned places, so this I think will be your major issue. You do get a few foreign tourists at the resort hotel at Hakkoda so you might get by there if you are lucky. Sukaya is very old traditional onsen so I would think no chance. Best chance may be in small baths in pensions where you can get it to yourself but then that is not a true onsen experience.

    Pity you made the choice of getting Tatts before venturing to Japan - your loss.
     
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    Yes, there are several peak accessible with a bit of a hike (skins or snowshoes) from the top of the ropeway, However with the wild weather that you often get through February you may not get much chance to get to them. It is in in spring where this really opens up.
     
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    I wouldn't bother with anywhere in Tohoku.
    Been there several times in search of the dream and left totally skunked.
     
  25. Heinz

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    It is for the terrain traps down from the ropeway is one big reason you want a local guide there - trees can get quite tight and you can end up down a ravine or easily disorientated if the weather turns nasty which is often does. Lots of snow though so it can be very good.
     
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    hakkoda is easy bc if its fine and you have a bit of an idea about navigation/snow safety ....i struggle to mention anything about this area as i think its best to just let people work it out for themselves ..hopefully back there next winter to places not much visited
     
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    Have booked in to do a Avi course again when arrive in Niseko. Will def look at having a guide in Hokkado.

    Cheers for all the advice
     
  28. David-eTO

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    I was at Sukayu in March this year and I can confirm you can access their onsens with tattoos despite the "Onsen's rules" prohibit it.
     
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    Way to necro a thread.

    Out of interest, did you actually ask about the tattoos before you went in? Or did you just waltz in regardless? If the Japanese see a sign like that, and they have tattoos, then they don't enter.

    Because if you went in without asking and nobody said anything that doesn't mean you're 'allowed'. It just means the hosts are polite, even though your fellow bathers may not have felt comfortable.

    If you did ask, and they did say okay, all good I guess. Thumbs up for the win.
     
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