Arlberg Mt buller dont stay

Discussion in 'Mt Buller' started by Tim2018, Jul 28, 2018.

  1. Tim2018

    Tim2018 First Runs

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2018
    Messages:
    10
    Likes Received:
    2
    Our room had a bay window which protrudes beyond the main roof, a bad design. Middle of the night we thought someone was smashing at the window only to realize it was snow and ice falling from main roof onto bay window, Extremely loud not just a quit thud of snow landing on the ground. This went on for 2hrs than constant dripping onto said window for rest of the night. Complained to management in the morning after not sleeping and she could not be less interested, said basically we are in the snow and get over it, Once they have your money the Management are very disinterested in your stay. Avoid at all cost.
     
  2. snowgum

    snowgum One of Us

    Joined:
    May 4, 1999
    Messages:
    2,667
    Likes Received:
    564

    Classic Aussie default customer service. Talk to hand. They only understand boycotts.

    By the way did you mean 'Alberg'? Isn't Alzberg down in Mansfield?
     
    Poppies likes this.
  3. Hunter

    Hunter Part of the Furniture
    Ski Pass - Gold

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2000
    Messages:
    13,296
    Likes Received:
    424
    Would be better if the building design was different, yes but she has a point, you are over reacting, snow melt is part and parcel of staying in the snow
    Alberg has a lot going for it

    Would put up with a bit of dripping the fantastic position on the hill

    I have found the staff really quite helpful and good humoured
    The lunch menu in the front bar to be great

    I would recommend the place without hesitation

    [​IMG]
     
    SAS, Chaeron and Tanuki like this.
  4. Slalom

    Slalom A Local
    Ski Pass - Gold

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2013
    Messages:
    5,909
    Likes Received:
    5,094
    Not quite sure what management could have done about it.
    Would rather have snow falling than rain.
     
    Dos, SAS, coolair and 1 other person like this.
  5. emkae

    emkae One of Us
    Ski Pass - Gold

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 1998
    Messages:
    1,163
    Likes Received:
    409
    Arlberg Mt Buller? Alzburg Mansfield?

    If you are telling people to not stay somewhere, it’s always best to get the name right
     
    SAS and JM72 like this.
  6. Charlie

    Charlie Still the most depraved poster here
    Ski Pass - Gold

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2002
    Messages:
    22,745
    Likes Received:
    6,077
    What exactly did you expect the management to do?
    Get out a scaffold and redesign the roof?
    Or were you just having a winge?
     
    SAS, coolair, Froff Life and 7 others like this.
  7. Tim2018

    Tim2018 First Runs

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2018
    Messages:
    10
    Likes Received:
    2
    sorry your right, sorry to the alzberg mansfield
     
  8. teckel

    teckel Old n' Crusty
    Ski Pass - Gold

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2004
    Messages:
    37,746
    Likes Received:
    5,416
    Well, edit the thread title.
     
    cin likes this.
  9. Tim2018

    Tim2018 First Runs

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2018
    Messages:
    10
    Likes Received:
    2
    Your right , having a whinge . Management know about the problem but doesn't tell potential bookings, happy to take bookings and hope no one complains. Make a purchase and it does not perform you get a refund.
     
  10. Donzah

    Donzah Part of the Furniture
    Ski Pass - Gold

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2017
    Messages:
    16,129
    Likes Received:
    12,944
    With all due respect.
    Your'e in a alpine enviroment. The issue was cause by the weather and snow melting and hitting the glass.
    If it was cold and snowing ..wouldn't be an issue
    If it was clear and the snow melt had finished. Wouldn't be an issue.
    Its uncommon for above zero temps to occur at night. Hence its not usually an issue.
     
    LMB and Chaeron like this.
  11. Tim2018

    Tim2018 First Runs

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2018
    Messages:
    10
    Likes Received:
    2
    Hi Doonzah, accept snow and ice falls , buildings are designed for it to fall on the ground and not onto a another part of the building.
     
    Poppies likes this.
  12. Tim2018

    Tim2018 First Runs

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2018
    Messages:
    10
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trying to work it out.
     
  13. Donzah

    Donzah Part of the Furniture
    Ski Pass - Gold

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2017
    Messages:
    16,129
    Likes Received:
    12,944
    So you expect management to say...
    Occasionally , due to weather... Room........ may have snow shed upon its bay window at night?

    *snow doesn't shed very often at night
     
  14. Legs Akimbo

    Legs Akimbo Grumblebum
    Ski Pass - Gold

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2014
    Messages:
    22,866
    Likes Received:
    15,302
    Quite right. The only acceptable response to the issue was immediate demolition and rebuilding of the entire structure.
     
    di6loc, JM72, Chaeron and 1 other person like this.
  15. Tim2018

    Tim2018 First Runs

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2018
    Messages:
    10
    Likes Received:
    2
    i don't think you comprehend how loud and continuous it was.
     
  16. Tim2018

    Tim2018 First Runs

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2018
    Messages:
    10
    Likes Received:
    2
    maybe:)
     
  17. dossa5

    dossa5 One of Us
    Ski Pass - Gold

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2009
    Messages:
    1,334
    Likes Received:
    262
    so did you get to ride or too tired.
     
  18. Donzah

    Donzah Part of the Furniture
    Ski Pass - Gold

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2017
    Messages:
    16,129
    Likes Received:
    12,944
    I'm sure it was .

    Ever been in a 3 storey A frame house when its sheding a foot of snow every few hours?
    Over shingles ?

    Now thats loud

    Roofalanche
     
    LMB, Born2ski, JM72 and 1 other person like this.
  19. teckel

    teckel Old n' Crusty
    Ski Pass - Gold

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2004
    Messages:
    37,746
    Likes Received:
    5,416
    Go into 'Thread options' near your opening post, or ask a moderator.
     
  20. absentskier

    absentskier Old n' Crusty
    Ski Pass - Gold

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2010
    Messages:
    23,554
    Likes Received:
    12,192
    LOLLOL
     
  21. Tim2018

    Tim2018 First Runs

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2018
    Messages:
    10
    Likes Received:
    2
    thanks , have to get moderator to fix it
     
    Budgiesmuggler likes this.
  22. Rimey

    Rimey One of Us
    Ski Pass - Gold

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2010
    Messages:
    1,611
    Likes Received:
    916
    Jesus H Christ.
    Was the snow a little less than perfect ?
     
  23. Hunter

    Hunter Part of the Furniture
    Ski Pass - Gold

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2000
    Messages:
    13,296
    Likes Received:
    424
    I have stayed in the very rooms you are are talking about and I have had someone in the room struggle with the dripping / noise
    The only possible recourse would have been changing rooms if one was available, this may have not been possible, either way and as others have said it is something that can reasonably be expected in an alpine environment and not unexpected.

    I have stayed at the Alberg many times ( and will again this season ) and as I said ( dripping aside ) it is a pretty decent accom establishment on the mountain

    Next time have 2 extra wines and you wont hear a single drip !!!!
     
    coolair and LMB like this.
  24. MickM

    MickM One of Us
    Ski Pass - Silver

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2001
    Messages:
    2,700
    Likes Received:
    858
  25. Hunter

    Hunter Part of the Furniture
    Ski Pass - Gold

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2000
    Messages:
    13,296
    Likes Received:
    424
    Lucky they were not staying there in years gone past over a weekend when crap tribute bands were thrashing unabated..........
     
  26. Darb

    Darb Old n' Crusty
    Ski Pass - Gold

    Joined:
    May 19, 2002
    Messages:
    28,461
    Likes Received:
    5,259
    Ear plugs and a pillow over your head. That’s how I sleep full stop (I have kids)
     
    Poppies and skichanger like this.
  27. iagreewithhim

    iagreewithhim One of Us
    Ski Pass - Silver

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2001
    Messages:
    1,138
    Likes Received:
    1,180
    Give the guy a break. Yes, it's the alpine environment, etc.... but, being kept awake all night in a room you just paid a motza for, because of bad design, is definitely whingeable (correct spelling) in my book. It seems the real problem was the response of the management - which, at least in Tim's view, fell short of what might be expected. Tim won't be back, and neither (maybe) will his friends. A loss of market for the Arlberg.
     
  28. iagreewithhim

    iagreewithhim One of Us
    Ski Pass - Silver

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2001
    Messages:
    1,138
    Likes Received:
    1,180
    (Reading through these posts backwards...) Ok, so did they tell the management about it? How many times has the management been told about it?
     
  29. Darb

    Darb Old n' Crusty
    Ski Pass - Gold

    Joined:
    May 19, 2002
    Messages:
    28,461
    Likes Received:
    5,259
    I get shitty with hotels / apartments that have crap sound proofing, doors that slam, sounds of other people’s toilets flushing. Very hit and miss and often not related to the cost either.

    Never bothered to complain because exactly SFA can be done about building design.

    Would mention it in a review though (which this thread kind of is)

    Would be nice if review sites added “sound proofing and building peacefulness” as one of the rated values , never seems to be though
     
    coolair, MisterMxyzptlk and Poppies like this.
  30. Ziggy

    Ziggy Renormed
    Ski Pass - Gold

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2003
    Messages:
    8,323
    Likes Received:
    2,678
    You pay for a room to sleep in. If reservation staff know there'll be loud noises it's simple courtesy to warn you before they take your money.
     
    Poppies likes this.
  31. Tim2018

    Tim2018 First Runs

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2018
    Messages:
    10
    Likes Received:
    2
     
  32. Tim2018

    Tim2018 First Runs

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2018
    Messages:
    10
    Likes Received:
    2
    Thanks
     
  33. DbSki

    DbSki Part of the Furniture
    Ski Pass - Gold

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2012
    Messages:
    18,682
    Likes Received:
    5,405
    Ski resorts are noisy at nights on weekends.
    If you stay in one near Koroora on wends you wont get much sleep form the doof doof music and pissed punter in the streets.

    Day trip it
     
    #33 DbSki, Jul 29, 2018
    Last edited: Jul 29, 2018
    leigh the noob likes this.
  34. LMB

    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty!
    Ski Pass - Gold

    Joined:
    May 6, 2010
    Messages:
    22,659
    Likes Received:
    10,066
    This!!

    One of the rooms in our apartment is particularly noisy due to proximity to the pub across the road. I always keep ear plugs for friends who can’t sleep with the noise.

    But noises related to snowfall, shed or melt are very unpredictable and most skiers and boarders just roll with it.

    I think the OP was hoping for a refund or discount, which realistically was never going to happen.
     
    oldgeezer and Charlie like this.
  35. Heinz

    Heinz Old n' Crusty
    Ski Pass - Gold

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2005
    Messages:
    23,876
    Likes Received:
    5,888
    <pedant mode> It is Arlberg (2 r's). </pedant mode>
     
  36. parkmonkey

    parkmonkey Old n' Crusty
    Ski Pass - Gold

    Joined:
    May 20, 2005
    Messages:
    33,956
    Likes Received:
    11,450
    If you pick you're season right, you don't need to worry about things like snow
    [​IMG]
     
  37. djam

    djam One of Us

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2009
    Messages:
    1,064
    Likes Received:
    189
    Most of the Arlberg apartments are privately owned, and operate under a body corporate, any
    change to the building will be near impossible to make. We don't have bay windows, but the
    snow/ice dropping of the trees on to the roof above the bedroom can be annoying for sure.

    Was it management or one of the staff you spoke with ?

    The sad issue is, most building designers in Australia have little to no understanding of how to
    design and build in the Alpine environment. Just to add to the issues, the building design has to
    be approved by other government departments with often less knowledge and place restrictions
    on the designs that make the situation worse.

    Over the years I've learnt about places that work for me and those that don't. I recall (no names)
    one place I stayed at here in the early eights has the bins full of glass emptied at 06:30, which
    sounded like 44 gallon drums tipped in to the rubbish truck. That was my last booking there,
    even if it was a great location.

    You should send an email to Al2b3rg with an apology, even with the subject changed, once
    anything is on the web, it's there for good. And now a search will link people to this thread.
     
    #37 djam, Jul 29, 2018
    Last edited: Jul 29, 2018
  38. Astro66

    Astro66 Still looking for a park in Thredbo
    Ski Pass - Gold

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2009
    Messages:
    15,557
    Likes Received:
    8,813
    The only reason anyone searching for Alzb**g will find this thread, is because you used it's name in this thread again.

    Don't use the name. Search engines won't find it.

    You also need to send them an apology.

    Everyone who clicked or posted in this thread, generated traffic to this thread and thus promoted it. You all need write apology letters.

    Infact ......... everyone using the internet needs to write apology letters.
     
  39. crackson

    crackson A Local
    Ski Pass - Gold

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2006
    Messages:
    6,697
    Likes Received:
    3,788
  40. iagreewithhim

    iagreewithhim One of Us
    Ski Pass - Silver

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2001
    Messages:
    1,138
    Likes Received:
    1,180
  41. TOFF

    TOFF Im kind of a big deal
    Ski Pass - Gold

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2004
    Messages:
    40,214
    Likes Received:
    13,269
    I reckon all you guys are way to hard on Tim.
    The issue of course is the poor customer service and not the design of the building and when you spend a ton of money to visit a tourist destination, nothing wrong with expecting a decent level of customer service.

    Thanks for sharing Tim.
     
    oldgeezer and crackson like this.
  42. Astro66

    Astro66 Still looking for a park in Thredbo
    Ski Pass - Gold

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2009
    Messages:
    15,557
    Likes Received:
    8,813
    So ......... true to my word. I have written an apology letter to the Alzb**g, for both clicking on, and posting in this thread, which mistakenly criticized the Alzb**g.

    Please vet it before I send it.

    Dear Alzb**g,

    Snow falls down due to gravity. But snow was wrongly accused of falling down at your Hotel. Please forgive snow. It knows not what it does.

    Lots of Love
    Astro.
     
    crackson likes this.
  43. TOFF

    TOFF Im kind of a big deal
    Ski Pass - Gold

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2004
    Messages:
    40,214
    Likes Received:
    13,269
    Normal from you, cant see the forest for the trees
     
  44. luvthabumps

    luvthabumps A Local
    Ski Pass - Gold

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2006
    Messages:
    8,462
    Likes Received:
    2,914
    Can somebody please remind me when the last time snow melt was an issue at Alzberg, Mansfield..........:rolleyes:

    oh and @TOFF = since this is a spelling pedant thread it's "way too hard" matey. FFS an edumacated fella like you should be able to get that right.....
     
    TOFF likes this.
  45. coolair

    coolair One of Us
    Ski Pass - Gold

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2007
    Messages:
    606
    Likes Received:
    506
    Had the same snow falling off the roof onto an awning at Thredbo Hotel, massive crash in the night.
    Requested a room on the other side next time,
    easy fix.
     
  46. TOFF

    TOFF Im kind of a big deal
    Ski Pass - Gold

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2004
    Messages:
    40,214
    Likes Received:
    13,269
    Many things have changed while you’ve been in Canada ;)
    But as most of my posting is done on mobile device, I am at the mercy of Steve Jobs and his merry men. According to then I spend a lot of time ‘forking’ about.
     
  47. Dos

    Dos One of Us

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2012
    Messages:
    1,291
    Likes Received:
    191
    Your post spun my head so you first have to write an apology letter to me ;)
     
    Astro66 likes this.
  48. Mufts

    Mufts Potato
    Ski Pass - Gold

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2004
    Messages:
    4,388
    Likes Received:
    3,130
    [​IMG]
     
    di6loc likes this.