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AT Bindings

Discussion in 'Backcountry' started by skifree, Aug 31, 2014.

  1. Angus_McCrory

    Angus_McCrory Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    The Kastle has a 32m turn radius.... on hard snow its like being on a Super G ski... loves to rail at high speed... hence the need for a stiffer boot.... but in soft snow they turn on a dime and could be skied in Dunlop Volleys.
     
  2. climberman

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    Silicone spray can help too. Handy for crampons also.
     
  3. The Bush Patrol

    The Bush Patrol Addicted

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    Top thought CM may try it on the down booties instead of wax next time to make a quick exit from the snow cave to avoid projectile vomit (sorry Private Joke there).
     
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    nfip Cold n' Rusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Works in the locks on my ski racks too.
    Had minor drama when o/night rain in Jindy froze solid and when time to open at Smiggs no go.
    Thx to ski patrol , I boiled and borrowed their jug and managed t release the buggers.
    This year I bombed them with silicone spray , happy days. (so far , disclaimer !).
     
  5. DPS Driver

    DPS Driver A Local

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    FYO, a little birdie told me DPS are bringing out a superlight touring specific ski. ie focused on the uphill crew without compromising the downhill.

    It'll still be pure prepreg carbon fibre but somehow lighter.
     
  6. Angus_McCrory

    Angus_McCrory Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Helium filled channels?
     
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  7. PiniPowPow

    PiniPowPow One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    They are developing a boot also!
     
  8. DPS Driver

    DPS Driver A Local

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    Yes they are, and reports are it's going to be carbon fibre inspired, and cutting edge re fit.
     
  9. nrcd

    nrcd Addicted Ski Pass: Silver

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    As a DPS tragic (currently 3 sets of DPS skis), I am very interested in the boots.
     
  10. ecowain

    ecowain One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Saw someone with a DPS touring prototype skiing in Craigieburn last month. It weighed about two thirds of my wife's W112 Pure. Apparently there was some carbon, but a whole bunch of wood too.
     
  11. DPS Driver

    DPS Driver A Local

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    Cool. Do you know what ski it was? Sorry I'm a gear nerd, just love playing with skis and equipment.

    I know they have the Powderworks models out now which have the pinstripes and they are lighter with a combination of wood and high tech foam core. They're apparently 10% lighter, more responsive and damper than the current Pure 3's.

    It's really exciting watching a company like DPS. They're like the mad scientists of ski manufacturing. Volkl are the only other company following the prepreg carbon fibre path and they have spent massive amounts of money trying to unlock the key to working with prepreg carbon fibre. All the others are just sprouting carbon fibre everywhere when all they are doing is adding some stringers like the Hybrids. No "titanium" though or helium:yum:
     
  12. ecowain

    ecowain One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Sorry, not sure. The topsheet was one from a wailer that was pressed slightly unaligned and askew onto the ski. Thinner than a pure, maybe smaller dimensions than a 112 (105?). Could have been something like the powderworks skis, but in a skinnier wailer-shaped package.
     
  13. hpsauce

    hpsauce A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Indeed.......why I went for Marker Tours. Light enough if you choose the right ski and boot......and close in feel and function to an alpine binding.
    Sure, you have to step out to change from ski to walk (and this could be s#!tty if baltic and snow built up)......but that is a 30 second price to pay
     
  14. CarveMan

    CarveMan Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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  15. maxdacat

    maxdacat Hard Yards

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    I would be keen to hear if anybody has experience in Oz of the Voile Charger. Sounds like it would be ideal here. I haven't skied in Oz since the 90's and have since moved on to dynafit and marker setups. When I did i used leather boots and skinny karhus with patterned bases for BC tours. Voiles and dynas sound ideal for our sort of terrain. Here's a review:
     
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    maxdacat Hard Yards

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    Does Scott count with their crusair's or is that a different sort of construction? Here's my take on them:

    http://www.epicski.com/t/99830/2011-scott-crusair-mini-review
     
  17. Untele-whippet

    Untele-whippet beard stroker Ski Pass: Gold

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    Can't comment on the Charger BC but I've been using the Vector BC since last year and love it. 1+ has a set also as an AT unit and loves her too.
     
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  18. DPS Driver

    DPS Driver A Local

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    Different construction, I believe. I've never cut a Scott in half so not 100%.

    Yes they have carbon fibre in their construction but it is essentially a fiberglass ski with wet lay up carbon laminates. The weight reduction is primarily due to the amount of wood core they've removed. Hence the air. So in effect they mess with the integrity of the ski by taking product out to make them light. Sure the carbon allows them to do this but a very different manufacturing process.

    I'd say, the Crusair more closely resembles a Trab construction. Happy to be corrected, if anyone knows differently.
     
  19. skifree

    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Not all Scott's have carbon. We had a pair (did not make a note of the model, was too disturbed by what I saw) come into the workshop, they were real light, too light. Laminated wood core with long channels cut out and a very light glass fibre wrap. The binding had pulled out and generated a split in the core and top-sheet between 2 of the holes. There was no carbon in sight and if there was it was nowhere useful.
     
  20. Astro66

    Astro66 Still looking for a park in Thredbo

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    Ok...... Scored myself a set of F10 Tour. Choose these over Salomon Guardians due to huge weight difference. Only about 1800 grams for the pair. Compared with about 3000 grams for the Guardians.

    Would have preferred the quick release without taking ski off. So I could practice Tele-turns on easier parts of the slopes. And clip in on the steeper. But the width was also marginal. The Guardians would have ran pretty close to my edges. May have interfered when railing on the groomers.

    Any advice on the mounting ?
     
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  21. Untele-whippet

    Untele-whippet beard stroker Ski Pass: Gold

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    Screws and glue not blutack .
    (Boot centre)
     
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    Astro66 Still looking for a park in Thredbo

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    Wood glue ??
     
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    Astro66 Still looking for a park in Thredbo

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    Also plugging. Can i plug with blutack as holes will be under binding.

    I want to be able to swap back to full alpine easily.
     
  24. Untele-whippet

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    Astro66 Still looking for a park in Thredbo

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  26. skifree

    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    You should go to inserts then, 1 set for the AT binding another set for the fixed binding.
     
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  27. Untele-whippet

    Untele-whippet beard stroker Ski Pass: Gold

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    TP is the master of hole plugging.
    I've used glued in golf tee tips or steel wool and epoxy.
    Blutack NO!
    Remember a beverage is required for a proper home mount ( said the actress to the bishop )
     
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  28. Telemark Phat

    Telemark Phat Pass the butter Ski Pass: Gold

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  29. piolet

    piolet Better make it three Ski Pass: Gold

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    mount your own ****ing skis

    google it
     
  30. skifree

    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    :( harsh
     
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  31. piolet

    piolet Better make it three Ski Pass: Gold

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    piolet Better make it three Ski Pass: Gold

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    heh. the link works with the **** in it. neat.
     
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    CarveMan Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    Server just sees 232898 ;)
     
  34. Untele-whippet

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    Not hehe, not neat, get thee to hell fornicating fixed heel devo.
    Where is the auto farkin censor?
     
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  35. Angus_McCrory

    Angus_McCrory Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Would recommend the top of the skis.
     
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  36. piolet

    piolet Better make it three Ski Pass: Gold

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    wooooosh
     
  37. piolet

    piolet Better make it three Ski Pass: Gold

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    hahaha

    you only just noticed? haven't sold my soul - just renting it out for a bit, til the midget grows up
     
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    Astro66 Still looking for a park in Thredbo

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    F10 Tour mounted. So bite me. :p

    Holes pluged. Araldite used in copious amounts. Bindings looked so good. Decided I ain't going back to Alpine only. :woohoo:

    Din set to 8.

    Have I missed anything ?

    BTW. Missus said I have to get a beacon if I want to Back country next year. So I'll be hitting up the beacon thread next. :D
     
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    CarveMan Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    Beacon is only good with an accompanying shovel and probe, and knowledge, and a mate with same.
     
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    Astro66 Still looking for a park in Thredbo

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    That was next question in beacon thread. :thumbs:

    Won't be purchasing till the sting of the Canada trip wears off. But I'll checkout your site.:thumbs:
     
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    CarveMan Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    I don't have any Beacons atm, but there are some good links in the Beacon thread. 3 Antenna Digital or bust.
     
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    :woohoo::cheers: Well played Sir!
     
  43. Untele-whippet

    Untele-whippet beard stroker Ski Pass: Gold

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    Purfect excuse to be a gear slut!
    You made me buy it sweetums :love:
     
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  45. skifree

    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    I would not rush into the beacon thing unless you were heading to Utah or Hokaido or somewhere else deep soon. Talk to a few more folks & some reading.
     
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    nfip Cold n' Rusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yes not mandatory for Perisher slacko., IMO
    But a good habit to be carrying just because you can !
     
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    nfip Cold n' Rusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Ps Deploy 3 the go to.
    The 7 is too big for pack.
    I only got the Tracker few years back , base model keeps it simple and does the trick.
     
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    piolet Better make it three Ski Pass: Gold

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    Oi! You did ask!!
    I take it u have considered skins?
     
  50. Astro66

    Astro66 Still looking for a park in Thredbo

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    Was going to get, Black Diamond Ascension from Rhythm. $130. Pick them up tomorrow.

    Any better ideas ??
     
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