Australia Winter 2016

Discussion in 'Alpine & Snow' started by rocketboy, Jan 7, 2016.

  1. Lady Penelope

    Lady Penelope One of some lot ... Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yes, balanced and looking very positive for this season.
     
  2. Slalom

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    Yep, we have a couple of maple versions out front that have only lost their leaves in the last week and the ornamental pears started changing colour in the last few days.
     
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  3. mr muddle

    mr muddle Hard Yards

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    My maples still have leaves. The crepe Myrtle is still going too. The real strange one for me is the grape vine still has green leaves.
     
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  4. kimberlee81

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    Yet my orchids are out!

    Give me another five years and I'll see if there's enough of a data set to "reliably" tie it to the ski season!
     
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  5. qwill

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    Tangello tree had a good crop #goodseason4sure
     
  6. Kelpieboy

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    A strange twist on these theories and observations. Got a lot of "pet" lambs at the moment , usually I get 1 or 2 per hundred but currently its at 6 per hundred which is unusually high for the breeds/crosses I run. Usually only happens just prior to or during extreme events so could be a good or bad omen. Considering drought/extreme heat arent currently in the equation that only leaves flood/ extreme cold as possibles.
    Running out of woollen jumpers for the poor little moneymakers , an extra cost no one ever thinks about when they buy their lamb from the butcher/supermarket.
     
  7. Lady Penelope

    Lady Penelope One of some lot ... Ski Pass: Gold

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    Pet lambs? I thought farmers were pragmatists :) Nice to hear ....
     
  8. Kelpieboy

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    "Pet" lambs refers to lambs abandoned by their mothers soon after birth. Be very reasurred of my pragmatism in such matters as this. Each lamb represents a cash value to me and I dont throw away money that could easily be saved. I currently have a stock of over 600 autumn lambs of which 37 are termed "pet". The "pets" represent a fraction over 6% of my expected market return and therefore every effort will be taken to get them to the saleyards.
    Sorry to disapoint you though.
     
  9. Billy_Buttons

    Billy_Buttons Que Sera, Sera Ski Pass: Gold

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    Do tell, how old are the animals that become those beautiful "Leg of Lamb" at the butcher? I have always wondered what age they actually are.
     
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  10. Kelpieboy

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    Animals referred to as lamb must still have their milk teeth and 2 jaw spools and can reach an age of 14 - 15 months. However most are sold at around 10 -12 months but can be sold as young as 2 months ( known as hothouse lambs ). The age at sale depends a little on breed/cross as some mature quicker than others.
    Once the animal loses its milk teeth or the jaw spools join it is known as hogget which on occasion can be passed off as lamb by less than honest butchers/supermarkets. At around 3 1/2 to 4 years old the animal becomes a mature adult and is then known as mutton.
     
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  11. glengary

    glengary One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Do you crop at all Kelpieboy or just graze.
     
  12. MarkV

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    Is hogget the same as two tooth, because that is the term I have heard for a sheep between lamb and mutton?
     
  13. Kelpieboy

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    Not a lot of cropping. My property doesnt have a lot of flat areas suitable for commercial quantities.

    2 tooth is a lay term for animals that have lost their milk teeth but still have 2 jaw spools so its the crossover from lamb to hogget. These can be considered either lamb or hogget at saleyards , depends on the availability of genuine lamb.
     
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  14. Kelpieboy

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    Anyway this is all getting rather off topic - WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT SNOW :D:D:D
     
  15. glengary

    glengary One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Fair enough. I see winter just around the corner and will turn up as usual after the 21st. of June. That will mean SNOW for the high country like it always has. Some years more then others, but it will get here.
     
  16. DidSurfNowSki

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    I do like the Himawari images

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    From @Gergs website. We have caught up to the median and average, and are ahead of 2015 levels. Anywhere around that average line (or above) will keep me happy.:)
     
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    sorry if this has been done; however is there an Olympic yr graph!!?
     
  20. MarkV

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    This is from Gergs.net and is a Fourier analysis of peak snow depth at Spencers Creek. According to @Gerg this shows weak cycles at 2 and four year intervals, so there may be some statistical relevance to Olympic years. Type in Olympic Year in the search bar at the top of the page and you will get many hits. :)
     
  21. Telemark Phat

    Telemark Phat Pass the butter Ski Pass: Gold

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    Just did a quickie. There has a disturbing reduction in peak snowdepth on Olympic Years since 1956 of a bit less than 100cm in 56 years. But there aren't very many points in the series so I'd question its significance.

     
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  22. Bloke

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    Today's the day. Im guessing 96cm at SC
     
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  23. Rush

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    IOD looking very negative. This is a good thing.
     
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  24. Claude Cat

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  25. Kelpieboy

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    I would have to agree with the june rain deciles , we are very much above average , not sure if its a monthly record but very close if not.
     
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  26. Rush

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    2nd wettest on record after 1923 thanks to a guy in the office.
     
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    Claude Cat On my bike Moderator Ski Pass: Platinum

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    yay for Olympic years!!!
     
  29. Bloke

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    Olympic year does it again
     
  31. glengary

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    That seems like a pretty big back flip over the last month or so. Naturally if it is wetter our minimums will be higher but the maximum forecasts look good with the amount of moisture. Here's hoping.
     
  32. Claude Cat

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    Not so much a change in moisture levels, but temperatures are lower than expected.
     
  33. Rush

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    No its not. Compare to the rainfall and temperature maps issued on the 26th May
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  34. glengary

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    Hell of a big change for the better in the last couple of months.
     
  35. Kelpieboy

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    That all depends on where your measuring stick is LOL mine sits at a place between Tumbarumba and Burra.
     
  36. Kelpieboy

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    So instead of just a good chance of being wet , we stand a better chance of being wet and cold , que sera , thats normal for Tumba I guess.
     
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  37. Rush

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    Weekly IOD value at -1.1, lowest in the 15 year old BoM dataset.
     
  38. Ubiquitous Steve

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    Olympic Year or is it the year of the Olympic Pool in relation to precipitation of a water nature...????:whistle:
     
  39. h2oskier

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    I often question the accuracy and relevance of these images, other than showing general trends. I live in north central vic and travel around a fair area of the north east for work. I have not seen the level of stationary water like at present for many years. North of the divide is thoroughly soaked. A quick look at rainfall totals of several townships that are in the 'average' white areas, will show 50-100% above average rainfall. Subjectively and objectively (looking at totals in average areas), most of the northern country and north east vic should be at least 'above average'. Either way, its great to see a lot of blue on the map!
     
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  40. glengary

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    Being a Wang boy I agree. Most farmers don't want any more at the moment, the ground and seed have become waterlogged. A week of sunshine would be nice for them.
     
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    Agreed , just spent the last day and a half helping a grazier mate in Gippsland. Crop lost , dead in the ground. Seriously the ground is at saturation point and the amount of stillwater just lying around is incredible.
     
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    Saw the latest SOI reading on the ABC News weather section last night.

    We are currently at: 5.1
     
  43. Rush

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    So personal anecdotes are more reliable that decades of data?
     
  45. h2oskier

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    Did I say that? I said subjectivity and objectively. I did look at the data. All im saying is that the amount of water around the area seems above normal.
     
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  46. Rush

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    Actually you said
    ..images based on decades of data. The amount of water you see is above normal according to your recent perceptions which are highly likely to have been influenced by the millenium drought, and the long term decline in autumn-spring rainfall in Southern Australia over the past few decades.

    The AWAP data used in those plots extends all the way back to 1900.
     
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    The dry season for Qld. looks like getting quite wet.
     
  48. Majikthise

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    that is a lot of spin in the bight!
     
  49. Seafm

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    Not supposed to be like this in July at all. At least it helps keep my watering bill down. I'm in Cairns by the way.
     
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    Heavy rain in Darwin tomorrow.