Bushfire Australian Widespread Bushfire Risk on Tuesday 12th November - and beyond

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  1. GS

    GS Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    At least there's bugger all combustibles on the ground around the house. How full is the tank?
     
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    teckel Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    That looks safe as! No fire can creep up on that as there is no vegetation abutting it. The only thing that could get you would be embers landing where? Nothing to burn. Looks safe as. One of the most defendable houses I've ever seen. Only risk would be a tree falling on it. That is, until you plant your garden.

    I'd be looking though, at putting blueboard (with vents) around the bottom of the house so that in a future fire it can't burn from underneath. (Also stops snakes from hiding under there) And keep the deck near the door where there are inset corners free of leaf litter. You probably already have planned all this.
     
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  3. Majikthise

    Majikthise Sage Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    gospers is having a run
     
  4. AlanD

    AlanD Part of the Furniture

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    Only 20,000 litres. We've had bore issues and didn't get any more in. We also missed 300mm of rain as the tank hadn't arrived.
     
  5. filski

    filski Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Realized it was a bit overcast in the city just now. A few clouds up there but not anything to offer hope. To the west looks smokey, the north is relatively clear still.
     
  6. AlanD

    AlanD Part of the Furniture

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    The joists etc under the house are fully enclosed with cement board. We will seal underneath eventually but it's not a must do asap.
     
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  7. GS

    GS Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    That would be a good amount to defend the house, do you have a fire pump and hoses yet?

    Even wheelie bins and other containers full of water placed around the house, with a few on the verandah with mops etc nearby. Even towels cable tied to broom handles or the like will be good for knocking down embers on your deck.
     
  8. Jacko4650

    Jacko4650 One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Fireproof cladding and decking material? I have been looking for materials for a project and wanted waterproof materials. Turns out some materials are both waterproof and fireproof. Bonus! MgO (Magnesium Oxide) panels look very interesting. eg: https://firecrunch.com.au/new-k-deck-tg-16mm-grooved-board-decking/
     
  9. Majikthise

    Majikthise Sage Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    there has been a bit of controversy about MgO board, apparently a bit of variability in performance of product available at one point.
     
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    dawooduck relaxed and comfortable Ski Pass: Gold

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    Still blowing hard in Jindy, parched.
     
  11. teckel

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    I need to replace the floor of my veranda and have been looking at non-combustible boards that are waterproof and won't rot. I've been advised against them as they apparently warp very easily. Don't know how true that is.
     
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    IAB A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    35C in Sydney with a dew point of -4.2C. R/H is 8%
     
  13. Majikthise

    Majikthise Sage Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    @teckel i think it is a case of you get what you pay for.
     
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  14. Astro66

    Astro66 Still looking for a park in Thredbo Ski Pass: Gold

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    Great idea to close so many schools, so bored unsupervised kids are out lighting fires. <shakes head>
     
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    Ozgirl Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    we have had the debate already astro - we moved on pretty quick
     
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  16. GS

    GS Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    On a positive note, evaporative coolers will be working well with those figures.....assuming water is still available!
     
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    Dusty brown sky in wollongong (its showing up on sat pic)
    wind is howling
     
  18. Astro66

    Astro66 Still looking for a park in Thredbo Ski Pass: Gold

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    Too many pages to read.
     
  19. ralphplough

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    No amount of attempting to shut it down makes it make any more sense.
     
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    teckel Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    It's only 8 pages!
    To summarise, schools should exist purely as babysitters, so the parents can do their stuff.
     
  21. Astro66

    Astro66 Still looking for a park in Thredbo Ski Pass: Gold

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    Do you know which page ? I wouldnt mind a read. Ta in advance.
     
  22. Snow Blowey

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    But not r
    But not really needed at 35 degrees and low RH.
     
  23. teckel

    teckel Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    So you want someone to go scouring through it for you? Geez mate!
     
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  24. ralphplough

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    Sounds like the missus has done her bit. Looking after our 4 plus 2-3 others from neighbours who were unable to make arrangements.

    I’ll probably take wine home.
     
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  26. dogski

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  27. filski

    filski Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I know right, it’s been a frigging disaster out there today.
     
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  28. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Its nothing really
    on the win news FB page
     
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  29. GS

    GS Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    I guess out in the sticks, anything under 35 and the down jackets come out LOL
     
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  30. Homer

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    Certainly has become very dusty here in Sydney this arvo as well.
    Currently keeping a sharp eye on the western skies for any signs of smoke. I'm surrounded by plenty of bushland where I am in the Hills District.
     
  31. Majikthise

    Majikthise Sage Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    buster....progress Ulladulla
     
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  32. Red_switch

    Red_switch Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: 30 Day

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    Well, as far as the satellite data (rolling 8 day NDVI* from MODIS) goes, this little corner of Australia sure has been drying out/dying off in terms of vegetation the last few years. Green is vegetation, the darker the denser/healthier/more active within a MODIS pixel (basically). Red dots overlaid are MODIS fire detections, they don't get everything, but are pretty good. NDVI correlates well with other metrics of dampness, soil moisture etc. NDVI is typically used to keep an eye on the "drying out" of vegetation.

    November 10 2016:


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    November 10 2018:


    November 10 2019:


    So I'm inclined to believe anyone who tells me there's a bit more dried out organic matter floating around to fuel fires currently.

    *https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normalized_difference_vegetation_index
     
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    How did you get approval at all with all a BAL bullshit?

    The joke of our council made us spend an extra $50k+ on BAL rubbish to lick the insurance industries gooch, with the full knowledge that the original part of the house has no BAL compliance at all.
     
  34. AlanD

    AlanD Part of the Furniture

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    It was mandatory for us to get the certificate of completion to have 20,000 litres for fire fighting purposes, fire nozzle fitting, fire pump, hose etc. unfortunely we only have a little for house use. The tank is set up so it can be used totally for fire fighting purposes but only the top 40,000 litres for our use. We are still using the shed for showers etc as it has about 8,000 litres in our "bore" tank. The shed has a full 22,500 tank of it's own but it is gravity fed and can at this stage only be used in the horse paddocks 200m further down the hill.
     
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    I'm in a catastrophic area and the water bombers are here. This is a bit close for comfort.
     
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    I hope you took those snaps whilst the engine was running!
     
  37. ralphplough

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    More than what? 2012? Yep.

    2007? Nope.

    These conditions are not unprecedented. Anyone who says it is has a very short memory. Closing 500 schools however.....
     
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    We baffled them with BS they didn't understand the bushfire report and sent it off to the RFS who read it and approved it. Council then had no choice but to approve it, but were upset when the underestimated the number of trees coming down. They thought only 6 were coming down but RFS wanted about 120.
     
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    Where exactly is that @aazz ?
     
  40. teckel

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    If that is to the south or the west of you, GTF out well before the change comes. When the wind turns to be from the SW, that will come straight at you.
    In fact, go NOW.

    See Majikthise's post
     
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    Turramurra has caught alight, that last went up in 1994. A real risk when the wind turns.
     
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    Majikthise Sage Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    This will be challenging.....
     
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    Majikthise Sage Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    I am guessing Rothbury
     
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    Not. Good.
     
  45. Billy_Buttons

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    On the rfs map it is the Harper street in Greta fire.
     
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    with the wind directions, this could end very badly. Hoping not.
     
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    Turramurra is getting bombed now with fire retarded. Just watched it from office window.
     
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    the pink magic did the job at woodford... impressive stuff
     
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    Indeed.
    I know that area pretty well ... not good