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Question Austria 2021 Advice

Discussion in 'Europe' started by blueandwhite, Feb 14, 2020.

  1. blueandwhite

    blueandwhite One of Us

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    Hi all, looking for some advice from people who have skied Austria before. We've just booked flights to Munich for the 2020/2021 season. Booked flights super-early as we are using frequent flyer points. Essentially we are flying in to Munich on 30th December and flying out of Frankfurt on 22nd January. The current basic outline for our family of 4 is as shown below. I'd love to hear any advice on whether this seems like a decent plan or if there is a better way to do it.

    30th Dec - fly in, hotel at Munich Airport, rent car next morning and drive to Austria
    31st Dec to 8th Jan - peak season so get something booked early for that week and just deal with the uber-crowding and high prices
    8th Jan to 14th Jan - don't book anything and wing it to decent snow and cheaper accommodation at the last minute if possible
    14th Jan to 21st Jan - Skiing at Kleinwalsertal area (we have a friend who will be there so this is the locked in part of the trip)
    22nd Jan - drive to Frankfurt and fly out

    Given that we are there in the first week of January and crowds etc are unavoidable, any ideas on where might be some good resort(s) to have a look at? Appreciate it's school holidays so everywhere is going to be rammed. Would rather keep it to Vorarlberg and west Tyrol areas if possible as we have to get back to Kleinwalsertal later in the holiday. Cheaper obviously better and we have a rental car so not absolutely necessary to be right on the spot (although preferable of course!!). I'm guessing we'll be priced out of the big boys like Lech, St Anton etc so any other ideas would be useful for us to research. There seems to be so many resorts in Austria it's a little overwhelming researching it.

    We don't need any amazing off piste or super-expert terrain, we're happy doing mostly groomers and ducking off the side a bit if the snow's good. Taking all our own gear and kids won't need childcare or lessons etc so family resorts not an absolute must.

    And for the week after the 7th January, given it's essentially low season, any ideas on whether we could just book this stuff last minute to see what the weather and snow is doing or should we be booking this before we go as well? ie is accommodation hard to come by last minute out of season?

    Any advice appreciated :) I know it's crazy-early to be thinking about it but who doesn't get amped just after they've booked their flights!
     
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    Can’t comment on best areas near that part of Austria as haven’t done too much other than Arlberg where I’m heading in a week or so. You can do the Arlberg cheaply with some planning though. If you want to go further afield I absolutely l loved Saalbach. Also in Europe generally holiday cycles often run sat-sat or sun-sun so you may find that from Jan 3rd-14th will be low season and actually cheap. These are weeks I generally ski across France and Austria and always book last minute depending on snow.
     
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  3. Heinz

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    The main peak is Christmas - New Year. After New Year it should drop off. You could start with a few days in Innsbruck. In Voralberg you could look at the Montafon valley. In Tirol the Zillertal would be good. Heaps of options of course.
     
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  5. Heinz

    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    If you are interested the 3rd of the 4 hills ski jumping tournament is in Innsbruck in the first week of January.
     
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  7. blueandwhite

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    Thanks guys, good info. Should we be looking for altitude in the first week of January? Is that quite early in the season for snow in the lower resorts?
     
  8. Hyst

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    If you book long time ahead I would look for higher ground this days.
     
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  9. Heinz

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    I don't think it is absolutely necessary to be above 2000m though can help. Snowmaking is Austria is first rate. Ski tourism is very important to Austria so plenty is invested in snowmaking to ensure visitors who book are able to ski. If you want to be sure go stay somewhere within reach of something above 2000m or a glacier. eg. in Innsbruck you have the option of Stubai. Or if in the Zillertal you can head to Hintertux. You can use the bergfex site to search for places over 2000m.

    Ischgl would be another good option - in the west of Tirol ie.close to Voralberg plus you can ski into Switzerland. Also if you like Apres-ski vibe it is one of the biggest.
     
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    Bit like a big version of Perisher terrain wise. Where I'll be next Jan. Never been there, not that high, but has trees and snow making. 2 hours from Munich. Lots of lifts (n=90) and trails.

    I'll be based out of Kufstein, free bus to the ski area. But lots of small villages at base of ski runs at about 600 m elevation with accommodation.

    I haven't quite figured out what other AT ski fields their season pass may cover coz not familiar with the names yet.
     
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    Also note when you are looking at accommodation you will generally find places directly in the ski resorts by the lifts (ski in/out) will be more expensive (often considerably), so consider looking at places a little bit away from the main resort but are on the free ski bus route. You can still get to the lifts in say 15 mins but be paying half the price or less. So depends on how much you want to pay for convenience.
     
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  12. ttn

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    We have done Europe for the last three years so maybe this could help? :D and we also learnt a lot from the other contributors here. We could only ski in January too and on groomers

    As a family of 4 with 2 teens, we stayed at hotels (2 rooms) and 1 and 2 br apartments and we booked early (from April onwards) as more choices were available. We went to Solden from Munich last time. For us 2br unit costed almost twice 1br unit but it is still very affordable IMO compared to Aust

    1st year - Tignes (1br unit) & Solden
    2nd year - Dolomities (hotel), St Anton (2br unit) and Zermatt (2br unit)
    3rd year - 3V (1br unit) and Avoriaz (2br unit)

    We stayed at ski-in-ski-out in Tignes, Dolomities, 3V and Avoriaz and it was really good & handy and not necessary more expensive than other locations

    So what we had learnt so far? If good weather, not many fresh snow, could be a bit icy on some tracks and more lifts opened. If snow storms ;) plenty of fresh snow, poor visual, windy, cold and more closed lifts. It's not busy in Jan so that's another bonus

    There are plenty of resorts in the area but as you will have a car, I would consider Dolomities and St Anton (or Zermatt) before joining your friend. Cheers
     
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  13. Heinz

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    ah yes Sölden would be another good option - has the Rettenbach glacier which hosts a World cup race in October.
     
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    Our family went here last year, we stayed in Hopfgarten. The resorts are great, well interlinked and many different aspects so you could ski to suit conditions. Our youngest was 5 at the time and skiid it well, even some of the steeps. Westendorf is a bit of a beast and covers a lot of terrain.
    We were lucky as they had so much snow that year we almost couldn't get in coming from Prague through Munich and down, it stopped snowing 2 days before we were due and the Austrian efficiency had roads back under control quickly.
     
  15. blueandwhite

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    So much great information, thanks to everyone who's contributed. Looks like our plan is along the right lines and got lots of research to work on now!

    I guess the outstanding question is if we would need to book accommodation for that 2nd week of January in advance or not. Has anyone been over there in January and just booked accommodation on the fly? I'm guessing since it's off-season there should be plenty available? It would be great to leave our options open for that week.
     
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    Last minute booking for Saalbach- Hinterglemm will be difficult for 8-14 Jan.... St Anton - I have done last minute a couple of times and most of the limited options were down at St. Jakob. The ski bus goes along Dorfstrasse and past the Nasserain Gondola.
     
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    I only did Saalbach on the fly once in early January. Only thing i could get was a converted cellar with a tiny window.
     
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    Skiing in Austria, so good :)
     
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  19. ttn

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    If definitely have a car then you do have the option of booking accom until the last days as you can drive to any resorts you want according to snow. For us we did city visits before ski and no car so we have to book in advance to ensure certainty ie fly into Rome then train to Venice then to Dolomities

    I suggest you pre-plan your preferred ski resorts with option for replacement resorts if snow does not play nice at that time :)
     
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    Highly recommend Montafon area. We stayed in Schruns at Hotel Zimba in early February 19 for 5 nights accomodation breakfast and dinner plus 4 day lift pass for around 800euro per adult.
    Schruns is reasonable size town but fairly quiet. There are some apres bars at bottom of ski areas that get lively for around lift closing.
    Cable car from Schruns runs straight up to Hochjoch area and then links by further cable cars into areas above StGallenkirch.

    With a car you can access St Anton within 45 mins and also drive around Montafon valley to start at areas you want to ride on a particular day (rather than catch a number of cable cars).

    Not aware of how snow sure it is in early January, although top around 2400 m so should get similar snow to most areas of St Anton and Lech.
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    Mainly Austrians and Germans in Montafon, compared to St Anton which is very “international”.

    Maybe Nasserien and St Jakob, which are a little out of town at St Anton, could have cheaper accomodation if you prefer to stay there.
     
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    Just stayed a week in Landeck and skied Fiss, Ischgl, St.Anton and Vernon. Took the “ski safari” transfer which was only 5 Euro each for pick up from the apartment and transfer to the lifts. This would be particularly suitable for a family. The small resort of Vernon would be good for a family. A big vertical, wide slopes that don’t bump up, no crowds even on weekends and 2 express chairs. In contrast, St. Anton had amazing terrain but crowded, bumped up and icy slopes by the end of the day. Expensive to eat and drink there also.
     
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    blueandwhite One of Us

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    This is great information, thanks. Having the car to drive to other nearby resorts will be useful I think, although riding a number of cable cars to start the skiing day is my young son's idea of heaven! Looks like a nice area, thanks for the tip. No problem staying in somewhere less international, almost more preferable. My school german will hopefully get us through...
     
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    I just got back from Saalbach-Hinterglemm, and last week was Euro school hols, and the place was packed with Dutchies, Germans, Brits & Skandies. Stayed in Hinterglemm, short walk to the lifts, and even though the snow is not nearly to the levels of previous years, it was still fantastic. Most Austrians speak at least basic English, so that shouldn't be too hard. You might need to make bookings for dinner if eating out.
     
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    If you partake in Apres and leave dinner a bit late + not looking to be flash, Bobbys Bar for a pizza is a good option.
     
  25. blueandwhite

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    Well this all got booked before die Scheiße well and truly hit der Fan. Fortunately 95% of it is refundable in the highly likely event that we can't or don't want to go come late December! I'm giving it a 1% chance of realisation at the moment and that is probably on the generous side...
     
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    Austria is full of medium size ski resorts which are great to explore in peak times. If coming to Munich, some nice resorts to start with are Lofer/Waidring or the Hochkoenig area has dramatic settings and gets less crowded as these are not as well known internationally. Better than Saalbach SkiCircus which gets a lot of Dutch, UK and Scandinavian tourists in this period. Or you could try some of the ski-in ski-out resorts where you don't have to deal with crowded valley cable cars - like Katschberg or Obertauern. Some more to check out here: https://www.domus-global.com/austria-resorts-overview
     
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    Pretty much same boat for me, though would probably rate it 25% of being feasible. Airfares SYD > MUN > SYD booked (would lose though about $2500 on a straight out cancellation, Qatar Airways cheapo fares), plus another $1k on an Airbnb.

    Might be risky even if allowable though. Things might settle covid wise in Europe over the summer, but what happens next winter would be a big question mark. Travel insurance not covering any pandemic stuff.
     
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    Yeah, our fares were with frequent flyer points (qantas not virgin!) so we should be able to change them pretty easily. And I deliberately booked refundable accommodation in case the situation escalated which it obviously has. Whilst I hate the concept of people pulling out of accommodation bookings normally I feel like this is a pretty unique situation, added to which the ****ing difficulty I had booking accommodation in Austria in early January - even that far out - I feel like if the resorts are open they're going to be able to easily on-sell my accomodation!
     
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    Well I pulled the pin on the trip this week. Obviously disappointed but trying to be realistic about it and trying to do the right thing. It seems unlikely that a trip leaving in late December would be possible, and even if it was it's likely it would be a shadow of what it could have been or might be in the future. So I've reluctantly cancelled everything and we are determined to now go in the 2021/2022 season assuming things are back to some kind of normality. On the plus side my son will likely be a way better skier when we go in 2022 which will make the trip better for everyone and we can ski a lot more as a family and explore a lot more of the mountains that we visit. Trying to look for the positives! On the downside my daughter will be one year closer to being a teenager which may make things harder LOL

    What a crazy year it has been.
     
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    Doing a bit of very early research in case we get to go on this Austria trip the following year.

    So, skiing in Austria over New Year. Anyone have any thoughts on New Year snow cover? Obviously it's totally in the lap of the gods at the time but I'm thinking general trend here to improve our chances. Presumably altitude is our friend.

    We were originally looking over Kitzbuhel way but I'm kind of nervous with my luck that there will be no snow. Altitude seems a bit lacking over that way with the exception of Kitzsteinhorn. My research has led me to quite a few New Year comments of poor snow at places like Kitzbuhel and Saalbach although it's obviously luck of the draw any given year to an extent. I'm just unsure if 'poor snow' in Austria means no skiing (do not want) or just means a bunch of pisted runs with machine snow only (totally happy with).

    I skied Bourke Street on repeat for a month and a half at Buller this year due to lack of snow so without wanting to appear high maintenance if we're dropping this amount of money on an overseas trip I'm keen to level up on that particular experience! Would value any input from those who have been to Austria.
     
  31. Heinz

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    I think you are being very optimistic thinking of skiing anywhere in Europe in 2021. Snow cover is going to be the least of your problems. First you have to get out of Australia and there is little likelihood of international borders being opened for a while yet. Austria and Europe are now also seeing an increase in Covid cases.

    I'd be thinking about 2022.
     
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    The trip's more than a year away. I don't feel like I'm being unreasonably optimistic but I accept that there are no givens.
     
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    ah I thought you were talking about the coming winter.
     
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    Going back to question and assuming that things are somewhat back to normal in 2022. Snowmaking in Austria is very good as it is a high priority, so snow cover around New Years shouldn't be a big issue. Still I would rule out Kitzbühel as it is quite low unless you were going to hang around for the Streif world cup race.

    Look for areas that have some higher altitude options and/or glaciers in worst case.
    Have a look at some of these options. These are ones that I have skied at least in part, although not in the New Years period.

    Paznaunertal - Ischgl, Galtur, Kappl
    Arlberg - St. Anton, Lech, Zürs
    Kaunertal - Serfaus-Fiss-Ladis, Nauders
    Ötztal - Sölden, Obergurgl
    Zillertal - Hochfügen, Zell am Ziller, Mayrhofen, Hintertux
    Gasteinertal - Bad Hofgastein, Sportgastein
    Obertauern
    Ennstal - Schladming, Dachstein

    And the best place to starting researching is right here: https://www.bergfex.com/
    eg. if you go here you can search by various filters eg places with upper elevations over 2000m or by facilities, activities
    https://www.bergfex.com/oesterreich/suchen/
     
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    Thanks for this Heinz, very useful. I'd been taking a look at Obertauern as it's part of the super ski card we were thinking of getting to tie in with other resorts later in January but I'll definitely research some of the others too.
     
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    Speaking of the Super ski card, there are plenty of options. I wrote this potential virtual TR back while stuck at home in May. This traverses several ski areas on the card, linked up by ski lifts, ski buses and a couple trains. May give you a couple ideas.
    https://www.ski.com.au/xf/threads/austrian-virtual-ski-safari.87583/
     
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    So you fly out 30th Dec 2021?

    Might be an idea for a title change by a Mod?
     
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    If you were planning to do a full season on the Superski card where would you think a good central base may be considering access to a wide variety of areas and relatively affordable lodging?
    Zell Am See?
     
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    That's a good question and one I have thought a bit about. The answer depends a bit on whether you have a car and want to drive everyday and how far, or whether you wanted to use train and ski buses and also what local skiing you wanted to do.

    Zell an See would be a good option. It has the Schmittenhöhe, can sort of access Saalbach, is close to Kaprun/Kitzsteinhorn and is a major stop on the train route.

    One I have thought about is Saalfelden which has free ski buses to both Leogang connected to the Ski circus and Maria Alm - Hochkönig region and is also the train route.

    Viehhofen in the Glemmtal now with the link lift to Zell am See/Schmittenhöhe and a short ski bus trip to Saalbach would be a good central location for the Ski circus.

    I have previously written about Landeck in Tirol which is another major rail interchange and has free ski bus access to Fiss-Serfaus, Ischgl & St Anton. I think a Salzburg equivalent of that would be Bischofshofen again a transport hub with access to Mühlbach-Hochkönig (opposite end to Maria Alm), St Johan im Pongau, Wagrain, Altenmarkt & Radstadt. Don't know the town itself, I've only transited the railway station.

    Or Altenmarkt or Radstadt where you have good access to Zauchensee, Flachau, Obertauern and the Ennstal. Don't really know the town of Radtstadt - mostly transited there, seems a bit spread out but is on the train route. Altenmarkt is a nice town but need a bus to Radstadt.

    Then there is Schladming, not so much centrally located but with good local skiing on Planai, Hauser Kaibling etc plus the Dachstein glacier. It is also a major stop on the rail line not far from Radstadt. As it is in Steiermark so closest to Graz where most of my relatives are from I have been there several times and I do like the town.
     
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    I agree Landeck would be a great spot but the big downfall is the Arlberg hills are not on the Tirol ski pass. I'm pretty sure Ischgl, Serfaus, and all the other big ones - including glacier resorts - are on it.
    A central position like Zell am See would mean a car wouldn't be essential.
    I'm planning on a full season as soon as possible which hopefully will mean 21/22. Everywhere in the Northern Hemisphere is an option. My kids will be with me for the school holidays - so from mid December to the end of January. I would stay on for February by myself while my wife heads home with the kids to get them back into the school routine. She will join me for the month of March while the kids are looked after by their grandparents.
    My main concern with picking somewhere in Europe is skiing off piste. Myself and the kids love to ski powder while my wife is fine with it but enjoys long groomers and great views. I don't have much experience skiing off piste in Europe. The Canada/US hills appeal because they are fully controlled inbounds. We also have relatives in Salt Lake City but I suppose there is a chance that some countries (USA) will not be an option that season.
    There are a number of factors that come into play. Exchange rate is one. Canada wins on that front. My daughter is studying French and is right into it so France is a consideration (big resort like Espace Killy or Chamonix). Japan is obviously great for powder but my wife prefers the scenery of Europe and North America.
    Not having to have a car would be a big plus as far as expenses are concerned so Austria has the best public transport and variety options if equipped with one of the passes that covers a lot of different resorts.