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Our company has been pushing for us to take several days annual leave this quarter to save on leave liability to try and help the bottom line and reduce job losses. It is a bit odd as I am actually quite busy supporting our client who are currently very busy, but I am taking the odd day off here and there, today being one of those.

Taking leave though without being able to travel anywhere though is quite a foreign concept to me. With things as they are at the moment I can't really do any proper travel planning and I have always enjoyed the planning part of any trip.

I have skied in Austria several times and a on couple of those trips I have used the Salzburger Super ski pass which covers a multitude of ski areas, although I have still only skied a few of them - a few days to a week. I have at times wondered how I might do it differently.

So today with not much else to do I wondered how some sort of ski safari would work just using this one ski pass. How may areas could I link up. I had done a couple of ski safari type trips in France. These were group tours where we would use ski lifts to ski form one ski area to the next and some of the backcountry in between whike a an woukd take our luggage to the next town to meet us. These were fun. 1989 was in the Tarantaise region - La Plagne, Les Arcs, Tignes, Valnmorel, Val Thorens, Courchevel but staying in little villages with ski lift access to those areas. In 1994 it was Morzine, Avoriaz, Flaine, Grand Montets and the Vallee Blanche. I figured I could do something a bit similar in Austria, without necessarily any backcountry.
 

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So the starting point of this exercise was to look at the ski areas covered by the Super Ski card. There are quite a few as shown below.

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I thought I would try and link up ski areas connected by ski lifts as much as possible with a few ski buses and trains in between. Looked to come up with a trip traversing from east to west in the above region thereby utilising just this one ski pass.
Ended with a rough plan for a 9 day itinerary from Haus im Ennstal finishing in Zell am Ziller, traversing through several areas I am familiar with. It traverses 3 Austrian provinces (Steiermark, Salzburg & Tirol). I don't know if I'll ever get to do it, but it is nice to know what may be possible. I reckon I could probably do it on my own just with a backpack, but I imagine a couple or group could do it with a non skiing partner who just drove to each town along the way with all the luggage.

Anyway I'll now start detailing the trip day by day.

Of course also made very good use of the Bergfex website as I would normally, in this case mainly for the trail maps.

Starting in the Ennstal in Styria(Steiermark) which is the home province of most of my relatives so like home for me.
 
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Day 1 Haus im Ennstal to Gleiming

Skiing: Hauser Kaibling, Planai, Hochwurzen & Reiteralm


This is in Ski Amade Region Schladming Dachstein (15e in the chart). I have skied in most of the ski areas here a few times but usually only 1 or 2 of them on any day. It hasn't always been possible to link from one to the other by ski lift due to snow cover, so sometimes had to use bus.

This is the region.
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I would start at Haus as Hauser Kaibling is the eastern most of the connected ski areas.

This would be a good spot to stay the night before.
https://www.bergfex.com/hauserkaibling/privatzimmer-alois-monika-moser/
€38 with breakfast and only a 2 minute walk to the gondola.
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There was another little area which was not connected so skipped that. Hauser Kaibling is also probably my favourite of the Schladming ski areas. Snow was a bit more consistent down to the valley floor and also less busy than on the Planai. So I would certainly do a few top to bottom runs there before catching the link lift over to the Planai. Would do a couple top to bottom runs there also plus a few up the top on Burgstallalm and Mitterhaus.

Then do the run down to Planai west if open otherwise download on that lift then up the Rohrmoos lifts to Hochwurzen. A few runs there then down again to connect with the Reiteralm lift and ski there and finish up somewhere in Gleiming or Pichl in the valley.

Possibly here: https://www.bergfex.com/reiteralm/hotel-brunner/
€65 with breakfast and right by the Silver Jet gondola.
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Area covered today.
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Day 2 tomorrow...
 
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You have to do it. Then TR.

With things as they are at the moment it will be a while before I get the chance and even longer as my original plan for next year was a non skiing spring/summer trip to Europe with my sister catching music festivals and spending time with our relatives in Austria. So for now will just have to imagine it.
 
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Day 2 Gleiming to Radstadt

Skiing: Reiteralm & Fageralm


This would be a pretty easy day. Thought I would have a look at Fageralm having never been there on the way through to Radstadt. This crosses into Salzburg province.
Here is Fagerlam.
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It appears to be a fairly small area, so figured I would still start the day on Reiteralm. Reiteralm is where some of the Austrian ski team go training during the season. I have had a few days there in the past. Would probably spend a few hours there before heading down to the bottom of the Silver Jet gondola to catch the skibus to Fageralm (7 mins).

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Then ski the afternoon at Fageralm before catching the bus on to Radstadt stopping at the Post Office (another 26 mins) where there are a few places to stay close by.
This place for example 50m away at € 52: http://www.torwirtradstadt.at/
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Today's travel
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So many resorts just in the Salzburg, Upper Austria, Styria regions. We drove from Piesendorf to Bled in February and passed so many small to medium sized places on the way. Flachau, Sankt Michael, Katschberg. Not big mountains but would have been worth a stop I'm sure if we had the time. Sankt Michael is a lovely little town.
 
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Day 3 Radstadt to Bischofshofen

Skiing: Flachau, Wagrain & Alpendorf


There are several ski areas not far from Radstadt, so it could actually be quite a good hub. There is also a local hill which connects to nearby Altenmarkt. I've never actually stayed in Radstadt but have passed through a few times to ski a couple of the nearby ski areas namely Obertauern and Zauchensee. These are both good options but are south and the aim of this trip is traversing east to west, so heading instead to Flachau - home of the great Hermann Maier. Flachau is now also linked to Wagrain and St Johann im Pongau none of which I been to.

Here is the run map.
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I'd start the day catching the ski bus from the Radstadt Post office to the gondola at Flachau (22 mins).
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The map shows a Hermann Maier tour. I haven't checked the details but it might be worth consideration. The objective of course is to ski the main runs at Flachau before catching the G-link cable car over to Wagrain. Might have time for a run down to the town of Wagrain before working my way back up and traversing across to the Alpendorf side. Then finally getting down to the town of Alpendorf in time for the 4:35 bus to Bischofshofen (20mins).

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Could stay here http://www.gasthof-tirolerwirt.at/
About 200m from the railway station for €56.
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Today's travel
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Day 4 Bischofshofen to Saalfelden

Skiing: Hochkõnig region - Mühlbach, Dienten, Hinterhal, Hintermoos & Maria Alm

Now back on familiar territory having skied this region a couple of times. The main difference this time is that I would be starting at the other end. Previously I had started from Maria Alm. I would hope once again to catch up with frienf Josef here for a ski.

Hochkönig region
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Start off with the Skibus from Bischofshofen (21 mins) to the Mühlbach Karbachalm gondola.
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Have a few nice early runs on Karbachalm. Previously starting from Maria Alm by the time we had made our way over to this side it was late morning and in spring it had already started to slush up. Then have several runs on Schneeberg which is usually pretty good. Having several times done the full Königstour from Maria Alm to Mühlbach and back in a day I know I have plenty of time to do it one way.

Continue on to Wastlhöhe and then Dienten, stopping for lunch at Almhäusl which I have enjoyed previously. A few runs on Hochmaisalm, then the traverse to Hintermoos and up to Aberg. A few more then before crossing over to Natrun and down to the village of Maria Alm.

Stop off at Helli's Apres skibar at the Bachwirt for a beer before catching the bus to Saalfelden (9 mins).
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Could then stay here: http://www.gasthaus-zur-bruecke.at
About 200m from the Post office or else 50m from Stadtplatz. € 45
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Got me reminiscing @Heinz Remember this one regularly played in a Skihutte or Schirmbar. Just a bit of Soaizburger (Salzburger) dialect :D
 

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Got me reminiscing @Heinz Remember this one regularly played in a Skihutte or Schirmbar. Just a bit of Soaizburger (Salzburger) dialect :D

Yes I have head that one somewhere along the way.
My favourite though is this classic oldie from the 80's that I heard regularly in the 90's - especially in Ischgl and still occasionally in later years.

Lyrics here: https://www.oktoberfest-songs.com/furstenfeld-lyrics.html
* of course the German is very much Steierisch.
 
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Day 5 Saalfelden to Fieberbrunn

Skiing: Leogang, Saalbach, Hinterglemm & Fieberbrunn

Some more familiar terrain, which is now even bigger than when I was there last year with the link to Zell am See/Schmittenhöhe. It is massive!
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Would start again with a skibus from Saalfelden to the Steinberg gondola at Leogang (23 mins).
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A couple nice cruisers there, maybe also to the Asitzbahn before heading over to Grosser Asitz. From there it would be possible to do the run down to Viehhofen and catch the new Zell am See Express to Schmittenhöhe, but I'm not sure time would permit me to do that, then back track and still be able to make it to Fieberbrunn, 2 valleys away.

So instead I think I would just make my way over to the Kohlmaisbahn and Saalbach. A couple there, then over to Bernkogel & Reiterkogel. Then depending on how time was going Hochalm for a few and maybe lunch, before returning to Reiterkogel and skiing down to the TirolS link lift across to Fieberbrunn. So now in Tirol.

Then still plenty to do on the Fieberbrunn side. A few runs on Reckmoos Süd, then down Reckmoos Nord, Maiskopf and down Fieberbrunn village. Maybe a run on Lärchfilzkogel if still time.

Then could stay here a bit down the road. https://www.boutiquelodge.at
€60 to €80
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Ground covered today.
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I thought I would try and link up ski areas connected by ski lifts as much as possible with a few ski buses and trains in between. Looked to come up with a trip traversing from east to west in the above region thereby utilising just this one ski pass.
Ended with a rough plan for a 9 day itinerary from Haus im Ennstal finishing in Zell am Ziller, traversing trough several areas I am familiar with. It traverses 3 Austrian provinces (Steiermark, Salzburg & Tirol). I don't know if I'll ever get to do it, but it is nice to know what may be possible. I reckon I could probably do it on my own just with a backpack, but I imagine a couple or group could do it with a non skiing partner who just drove to each town along the way with all the luggage.

Anyway I'll now start detailing the trip day by day.

Of course also made very good use of the Bergfex website as I would normally, in this case mainly for the trail maps.

Starting in the Ennstal in Styria(Steiermark) which is the home province of most of my relatives so like home for me.
Please stop this thread right now @Heinz, I have no room for any more Austrian trail maps!

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How big a backpack would I need ? :D
 
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Please stop this thread right now @Heinz, I have no room for any more Austrian trail maps!

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How big a backpack would I need ? :D

Need a bigger house. :)

Backpack would depend on how much washing you wanted to do and whether you wanted to do any backcountry.

I can go pretty light, merino layers go pretty well for several days, and I've done plenty of hand basin washing before.

I have my old 40L Macpac Rocketeer which would certainly be big enough. That is what I used on my hut to hut tours in the Alps in the past which was including touring and avi gear. But bigger than what I would like for just resort skiing. Would just have to pack what I really need and avoid the temptation to over pack.

Then I have my Lowe Alpine Strike 24 which I use for heli with shovel, probe, jacket or for resort skiing to carry my shoes when I'm not using a locker. It would probably be a stretch to carry what I want for a week though.

Would need space for shoes, pants for the evening, extra merino layers, jocks & socks, toothbrush, phone & charger, water bottle, sunblock, camera. The laptop would have to stay behind though.

Alternative is to have a non skiing partner who can drive to each location with your luggage, shopping and sightseeing on the way. Would be plenty of good shopping & sightseeing opportunities on the way. Could even meet up for lunch in some cases.
 
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Day 6 Fieberbrunn to Kitzbühel

Skiing: St Johann in Tirol & Oberndorf

Next 3 days on mostly unfamiliar terrain. Skiing here:

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This is St Johann in Tirol as opposed to St Johann im Pongau that we passed by a couple of days ago.

Start off once again with a bus from Fieberbrunn to the Eichenhof lift at St Johann (13 mins).

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It isn't a huge ski area so will have plenty of time for multiple runs and check out the area, maybe lunch down in St Johann village before heading across to the Oberndorf side.

Down to Oberndorf village and a short walk to the railway station and probably catch the 4:57pm local train to Kitzbühel (8 mins).

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Accommodation prices much steeper here, like the Streif. It is Kitzbühel after all.
An interesting option though would be here http://www.pension-hinterseer.at
Up the slope from the Hahnenkamm station for around €130. Run by the younger brother of Hansi.
If you got an earlier train you could even take the lift up and ski down to it.
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Todays route
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Yes I have head that one somewhere along the way.
My favourite though is this classic oldie from the 80's that I heard regularly in the 90's - especially in Ischgl and still occasionally in later years.

Lyrics here: https://www.oktoberfest-songs.com/furstenfeld-lyrics.html
* of course the German is very much Steierisch.

Thanks @Heinz for this post. I've been learning German for a (fingers crossed trip to Austria in Dec/Jan) and now have some Austrian music to get my head around and explore. Don't mind these blokes. I've always liked the piano accordion, STS seem like and Austrian version of Weddings Parties Anything.
 
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Day 7 Kitzbühel to Hollersbach

Skiing: Kitzbühel, Jochberg, Pass Thurn & Hollersbach


A fair bit of terrain to cover today.
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Start the day by heading up the Hahnenkammbahn and have a warm up run down the Strief - well maybe not :)
But certainly have a look.

I did visit Kitzbühel briefly for a day back in 1989. Was very busy at the time and hard to find accommodation. The Streif was then mostly closed due to lack of snow. Skied a bit on Kitzbühel Horn side and on Pengelstein.

Head up and check out Pengelstein, then catch the link gondola over to Wurzhöhe. Do a run or tow down to Jochberg, then continue to work around to Bärenland then up to Zweitausender (very imaginative name), around to Pass Thurn, back up to Resterhöhe, then ski down to midstation of the Panoramabahn. It looks like you have to then catch the gondola down to the village of Hollersbach. And in so doing we have crossed back into Salzburg from Tirol.

The Panoramabahn is a bit out of the town, so probably want to catch the ski bus.
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Could stay here for €62: https://herz3.com/
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Ground covered:
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Day 8 Hollersbach to Krimml

Skiing: Wildkogel arena (Bramberg, Neukirchen)

Continuing on in Salzburg province. Here is the Wildkogel arena.

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Starting the day catching the Pinzgauer local train which comes from Zell am See.
5 stops to Bramberg (10 mins).
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From there a few minutes walk to the Bramberg Smaragdbahn gondola. Plenty of time to check out this area, says it is 85% rad and blue pistes, so pretty cruisy. Looks like a black and a ski route from the Pfeifferköpfl chair. Finally do the run down to the village of Neukirchen am Grossvenediger.

Then another fairly short walk to the train station on the same train line as in the morning and continue on to the end station of Krimml, 5 stops later (11 mins).
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The Krimml station is a bit before the town of Krimml itself. It is really Vorderkrimml.
Could stay at this place next to the station for €70. http://www.pensionmarienhof.at/
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Krimml is also known for the waterfalls.
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Day 9 Krimml to Zell am Ziller

Skiing: Zillerta Arena (Hochkrimml, Königsleiten, Gerlos, Zell im Ziller)

Final day of the trip (at least using this ski pass). I have skied this region once previously but coming from the Zillertal end. Then I got as far as Königsleiten, but opted to then turn back to make sure I got back to Zell.

Here is the ski area.
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Start off with the skibus from Krimml to the Hochkrimml Filzstein area (23mins).
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Up to Plattenkogel, down to Gerlospass, up to Königsleitenspitze where I seem to recall there were several gondolas meeting up at that peak. Do a few runs off the various sides before heading down Fussalm to connect with the Krummbach Xpress lift. Have a run or two down into Gerlos and maybe a lunch stop?

Then up the Dorfbahn lifts to Isskogel, continue on to Krimmlalm and Übergangsjoch. Down to Rosenalm and up to Karsptiz and finish with a long run down to the base off the Rosenalmbahn. From there catch the skibus back to Zell am Zillertal railway station (7 mins).
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If not immediately moving on could stay here for around €50:
http://www.maximilian-zell.at
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This ends the trip on the Super Ski card as this is about the western most point covered by that pass. Not too bad.

Of course though there are several other good ski areas in the Zillertal - Hintertux glacier, Finkenberg, Hochzillertal and especially Hochfügen all accessible via the Zillertal train. You just need a different ski pass to ski them.

Otherwise catch the local train up to Jenbach and continue on.
 

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This is the ground covered in the 9 days covered by the one ski pass.
A distance by road of about 250km. The skiing distance much, much more.
The above trip also included 10 bus trips total duration 171mins and 3 train trips total duration 28mins.
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Reposting the area covered by the Super Ski Card.
This 9 day trip traversed the following regions. 15e, 15a, 15d, 6, 5, 4, 7 & 3.
But still plenty of other regions, so there would be several other possible itineraries.
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Great thread @Heinz. Inspiring even.
I spent some time in the Zillertal a couple of years ago with my wife and kids. My 14 year old daughter claims it is her favourite place on the planet.
I have Ski Amade and Saalbach on my radar once we can travel again.
 
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Since Richard can't spend all the forum subscription money on beer + skittles, hopefully he'll sponsor this trip ...

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I'll even promise do a trip report :)

I'm even willing to take @Heinz as a guide so long as he social distances in 1st class with me :)

@Richard paying for that too of course ;)
 
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Since Richard can't spend all the forum subscription money on beer + skittles, hopefully he'll sponsor this trip ...

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I'll even promise do a trip report :)

I'm even willing to take @Heinz as a guide so long as he social distances in 1st class with me :)

@Richard paying for that too of course ;)

:) Like your thinking, but I think a bit optimistic.
 
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Day 7 Kitzbühel to Hollersbach

Skiing: Kitzbühel, Jochberg, Pass Thurn & Hollersbach


A fair bit of terrain to cover today.
Kitzbuhel_map.jpg


Start the day by heading up the Hahnenkammbahn and have a warm up run down the Strief - well maybe not :)
But certainly have a look.

I did visit Kitzbühel briefly for a day back in 1989. Was very busy at the time and hard to find accommodation. The Streif was then mostly closed due to lack of snow. Skied a bit on Kitzbühel Horn side and on Pengelstein.

Head up and check out Pengelstein, then catch the link gondola over to Wurzhöhe. Do a run or tow down to Jochberg, then continue to work around to Bärenland then up to Zweitausender (very imaginative name), around to Pass Thurn, back up to Resterhöhe, then ski down to midstation of the Panoramabahn. It looks like you have to then catch the gondola down to the village of Hollersbach. And in so doing we have crossed back into Salzburg from Tirol.

The Panoramabahn is a bit out of the town, so probably want to catch the ski bus.
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Could stay here for €62: https://herz3.com/
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Ground covered:
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I did Hollersbach-Kitz-watch SuperG-back to Hollersbach in 2016. It was a huge day of skiing and was pretty worn out by the end of it.
 

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Love these Austria ski pics. Takes me back to the amazing trip I had to Bad Gastein and St Anton in 2000. Would love to return to try some of these smaller resorts. I love the lesser known resorts, and the associated village life that comes with them.
 

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@Heinz

If I was to try a similar trip going east to west but also ruling out areas I've skied before (Saalbach, Gastein and Zillertal Arena) would the following work ?

Day 1
Die Schneebären (The Tauplitz, Ski Riesneralm, Planneralm, Loser, Kaiserau)

Day 2
Region Schladming Dachstein / Ski amadé (Forstau / Fageralm, Schladming / Pichl-Reiteralm, Schladming / Planai, Rohrmoos / Hochwurzen, Skiregion Ramsau / Dachstein,Haus / Hauser-Kaibling, Pruggern/Galsterbergbahn)

Day 3
Obertauern

Day 4
Lungau (Großeck-Speiereck / Mauterndorf & St. Michael, Petersbründllift, Aineck / St. Margarethen, Katschberg / St. Michael, Fanningberg / Mariapfarr, Lessach)

Day 5
Grossarltal / Ski amadé

Day 6
Region Hochkönig / Ski amadé (Maria Alm - Dienten - Mühlbach, Hinterreit, Arthurhaus/Hochkeil, Grießfeld)

Day 7
Zell am See, Schmittenhöhe / Alpin Card

Day 8
KitzSki (Kitzbühel, Kirchberg, Jochberg, Paß Thurn, Mittersill/Hollersbach)

Day 9
SkiWelt Wilder Kaiser - Brixental (Brixen im Thale, Ellmau, Going, Hopfgarten, Itter, Kelchsau, Scheffau, Söll, Westendorf)

???
 

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If I was to try a similar trip going east to west but also ruling out areas I've skied before (Saalbach, Gastein and Zillertal Arena) would the following work ?

Day 1
Die Schneebären (The Tauplitz, Ski Riesneralm, Planneralm, Loser, Kaiserau)

Day 2
Region Schladming Dachstein / Ski amadé (Forstau / Fageralm, Schladming / Pichl-Reiteralm, Schladming / Planai, Rohrmoos / Hochwurzen, Skiregion Ramsau / Dachstein,Haus / Hauser-Kaibling, Pruggern/Galsterbergbahn)

Day 3
Obertauern

Day 4
Lungau (Großeck-Speiereck / Mauterndorf & St. Michael, Petersbründllift, Aineck / St. Margarethen, Katschberg / St. Michael, Fanningberg / Mariapfarr, Lessach)

Day 5
Grossarltal / Ski amadé

Day 6
Region Hochkönig / Ski amadé (Maria Alm - Dienten - Mühlbach, Hinterreit, Arthurhaus/Hochkeil, Grießfeld)

Day 7
Zell am See, Schmittenhöhe / Alpin Card

Day 8
KitzSki (Kitzbühel, Kirchberg, Jochberg, Paß Thurn, Mittersill/Hollersbach)

Day 9
SkiWelt Wilder Kaiser - Brixental (Brixen im Thale, Ellmau, Going, Hopfgarten, Itter, Kelchsau, Scheffau, Söll, Westendorf)

???

Happy to review that for you. Initial thoughts though are that it won't flow as well as my plan. My idea was to go by ski lift as much as possible using a short free ski bus at start/end of day with a few trains.

Quick comments on each day.

Day 1 Schneebären
I have long ago skied Tauplitz and Loser when based in Bad Mitterndorf where an aunt used to have an apartment. Tauplitz had bus from Mitterndorf and there was a nice long home run back to town. Loser has a great lake view but needed a couple of buses to get there via Bad Aussee. I don't know the other areas, but I don't think they are linked at all. You wouldn't likely be skiing any more than 1 or 2 these areas in a day.

Day 2 Schladming region
You would have to first get to Haus in Ennstal which is a different valley to Tauplitz, so have to back track to Stainach to get around the Grimming range. Once in Haus though it will be like my day 1. Hauser Kaibling, Planai, Hochwurzern, Reiteralm. You wouldn't get to the Dachstein glacier as you need to get a bus to Ramsau on the other side of the valley.

Day 3 Obertauern
No problem here. Get bus onto Radstadt, then another down the valley. Spend the day doing the full Obertauern circuit.

Day 4 Lungau
I'm not at all familiar with Lungau, but it does look like you can get a bus from Obertauern to Mauterndorf. Again like day 1 I doubt that these areas are linked by ski lift so you'd probably have to get a local bus to ski more than one of these areas.

Day 5 Grossarltal
Your major problem here is that this is 2 or 3 valleys away from Lungau, so I don't see a very direct way of getting there. You'd have to back track via Radstadt and Alpendorf to get to Grossarltal. I skied Grossarltal accessing from Dorfgastein.

Day 6 Region Hochkönig
This is equivalent to my day 4. East-west you would need to start in Mühlbach. I'm not sure it is worth doing Arturhaus, although as a diversion there is a nice walk from there to Mitterfeldalm hut where they do a very nice Kaiserschmarn. :)
But from Mühlbach there is a very good well laid out Kings circuit, via Dienten, Hinterthal, Hintermoos, Aberg finishing in Maria Alm. You can get a ski bus from there to Saalfelden.

Day 7 Zell am See
You can get the train from Salfelden to Zell am See - easy and access Schmittenhöhe.
Alternatively you could get the skibus to Leogang, ski over to Saalbach in the Glemmtal and get the new link lift to Schmittenhöhe - 2 valleys away.

Day 8 KitzSki
You could probably catch the train from Zell am see to Mittersill, then basically do my day 7 in reverse south to north, ending up in Kitzbühel.

Day 9 SkiWelt Wilder Kaiser
I did consider this option in my plan from Kitzbuhel, but in the end preferred the option going south. I'm not familiar with these areas either but they do appear to link up pretty well.
 

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Happy to review that for you. Initial thoughts though are that it won't flow as well as my plan. My idea was to go by ski lift as much as possible using a short free ski bus at start/end of day with a few trains.

Quick comments on each day.

Day 1 Schneebären
I have long ago skied Tauplitz and Loser when based in Bad Mitterndorf where an aunt used to have an apartment. Tauplitz had bus from Mitterndorf and there was a nice long home run back to town. Loser has a great lake view but needed a couple of buses to get there via Bad Aussee. I don't know the other areas, but I don't think they are linked at all. You wouldn't likely be skiing any more than 1 or 2 these areas in a day.

Day 2 Schladming region
You would have to first get to Haus in Ennstal which is a different valley to Tauplitz, so have to back track to Stainach to get around the Grimming range. Once in Haus though it will be like my day 1. Hauser Kaibling, Planai, Hochwurzern, Reiteralm. You wouldn't get to the Dachstein glacier as you need to get a bus to Ramsau on the other side of the valley.

Day 3 Obertauern
No problem here. Get bus onto Radstadt, then another down the valley. Spend the day doing the full Obertauern circuit.

Day 4 Lungau
I'm not at all familiar with Lungau, but it does look like you can get a bus from Obertauern to Mauterndorf. Again like day 1 I doubt that these areas are linked by ski lift so you'd probably have to get a local bus to ski more than one of these areas.

Day 5 Grossarltal
Your major problem here is that this is 2 or 3 valleys away from Lungau, so I don't see a very direct way of getting there. You'd have to back track via Radstadt and Alpendorf to get to Grossarltal. I skied Grossarltal accessing from Dorfgastein.

Day 6 Region Hochkönig
This is equivalent to my day 4. East-west you would need to start in Mühlbach. I'm not sure it is worth doing Arturhaus, although as a diversion there is a nice walk from there to a hut Mitterfeldalm where they do a very nice Kaiserschmarn. :)
But from Mühlbach there is a very good well laid out Kings circuit, via Dienten, Hinterthal, Hintermoos, Aberg finishing in Maria Alm. You can get a ski bus from there to Saalfelden.

Day 7 Zell am See
You can get the train from Salfelden to Zell am See - easy and access Schmittenhöhe.
Alternatively you could get the skibus to Leogang, ski over to Saalbach in the Glemmtal and get the new link lift to Schmittenhöhe - 2 valleys away.

Day 8 KitzSki
You could probably catch the train from Zell am see to Mittersill, then basically do my day 7 in reverse south to north, ending up in Kitzbühel.

Day 9 SkiWelt Wilder Kaiser
I did consider this option in my plan from Kitzbuhel, but in the end preferred the option going south. I'm not familiar with these areas either but they do appear to link up pretty well.
Cool, I'll toss out the rubbish and keep the good bits :)
 
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