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AWD vehicle for snow

Discussion in 'Snow Talk' started by despot721, Jul 19, 2015.

  1. nezumi

    nezumi One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Any thoughts on the VW Golf / Passat Alltrack wagons?

    I have seen a couple of these going to auction lately for pretty reasonable numbers (Yes, I am aware of all the general pitfalls of buying a car at auction) - predominantly finance repossessions it looks like.

    I was looking at an Outback, but given that the US2020 model isn't here until next year at the earliest, I figured I would cast a slightly wider net.
     
  2. bawbawbel

    bawbawbel Easi Ski..... Ski Pass: Gold

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    Keep original wheels.
    Tires can go higher but not wider.
    Wide is suicide on a light car , anyway :)
     
  3. CarveMan

    CarveMan Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    My sister has a Passat Alltrack. She is the worst driver in the world yet still alive so that's one good data point.
     
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  4. Mister Tee on XC Skis

    Mister Tee on XC Skis A Local Ski Pass: Gold Ski Pass: Silver

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    For driving to the Snow often I think an AWD with some clearance and being equipped with all terrain tyres is desirable. For new cars the recent Subaru XV looks quite the ticket for this sort of thing.
    https://www.caradvice.com.au/770540/2019-subaru-xv-2-0i-s-review/
     
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  5. Gregah

    Gregah One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Skoda has just introduced a "Scout" version of the AWD Superb wagon. It only gives an extra 15mm clearance but you do get some extra underbody protection and an "off road" mode. It also has the very decent Golf R petrol engine (if you wanted to avoid a diesel). You would of course need to be patient as they wouldn't turn up at a repo auction for a while.
     
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  7. snow drive solutions

    snow drive solutions Hard Yards Ski Pass: Silver

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    Fozzie Bear A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Arctic Trucks do great great conversions, but most people in Iceland would have a Toyota Prada/Landcruiser modified as they are more reliable. Have been in a couple of their vehicles, very capable. The Mercedes Sprinter 4x4 bus was brilliant.
     
  9. DPS Driver

    DPS Driver A Local

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    My Navara could do with a spruce up by them.

    I've got a Navara STX, 2 years old now. When I bought it I had grand plans to do a few things for off road performance in snow and sand but life got in the way. It's now done multiple journeys in both with bog standard tyres and all, because I'm too tight to waste a set of tyres, so I wore out the old ones first, before fitting AT tyres. To date that is the only mod.

    The things goes anywhere, as is, so now, even though I'd like to do the odd thing, I'm struggling to make any changes because it does everything really well enough and behaves nicely on the road which in all honesty, is 99% of all driving anyway.
     
  10. snow drive solutions

    snow drive solutions Hard Yards Ski Pass: Silver

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    Nokian winter tyres are available in Japan
    Here are the contact details for Nokian winter tyre importer
     
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  11. Marty_McSly

    Marty_McSly Staying the **** at home. Ski Pass: Gold

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    I hope he got to the BMW dealer before the Alfa rusted away...
     
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  12. nezumi

    nezumi One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Coming back to this, and Subaru Aus have confirmed that, at least at launch, they will not be bringing the 2.4 Turbo engined Outback to Australia to replace the 3.6L from the current gen.

    I'm looking at something to get with a 5-7 year ownership timeframe, probably on a novated lease.

    I'm not looking for something as a daily driver (I cycle to work in non-pandemic times), but it should be able to comfortably transport 2 adults and a 5 year old and <1 year old in their car seats (bub will be rearward facing for at least another 18 months to 2 years.

    Points for room to transport 4 bikes (or 3 bikes + trailer for now), AWD/4WD and some ground clearance for fire road driving to get to hikes.

    Unfortunately the Superb Scout is probably a bit too far at the pointy end of things, being in the $63k+ ballpark.
     
  13. DidSurfNowSki

    DidSurfNowSki One of them Ski Pass: Gold

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    Here's my specs:
    • electric powered
    • can fully recharge overnight using the solar panels on my roof/garage battery
    • enough range to travel Canberra - NSW resorts - East Jindabyne - NSW resorts - Canberra on a single charge
    • AWD so no snow chains
    • can overtake other cars on the Monaro
    • enough ground clearance to make it into Island Bend, Ngarigo or @dawooduck's driveway
    • Can carry all snow gear internally
    • Can carry 4 adults
    • Seats fully fold down so I can camp in the back of the car
    • fully autonomous
    • snow tyres that are equally at home on the highway and around town
    • massaging seats
    • bunny bar
    • modestly priced
    Hey, I can dream can't I ? ;)
     
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  14. Donzah

    Donzah Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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  15. DPS Driver

    DPS Driver A Local

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    I've had 6 Subarus dating back to my first DL wagon and still have a XT Forrester 2.5ltr turbo in the family. My wifes car. I've had both the 3.0 and 3.6ltr Outbacks as well. I used to do lots of klm's of highway, mountains & city driving and can attest to the joy of driving the 3.6ltr Outback and for that matter it's predecessor the 3.0ltr.

    I would have no hesitation whatsoever in recommending that set up. It makes long drives a breeze, as you've got the grunt you need when you need it, which I like on country highways for overtaking. In fact one of the best drives I can recall in recent times was with a car full of skis, on new tyres coming back from Falls to Thredbo via Kancoban at night. The road was dry, the moon was out and you could see any oncoming traffic easily at night. I was up it, wanting to get home at a reasonable hour and it was just one of those epic drives. I love that 3.6ltr Outback set up.

    The only reason I went away from another Outback with my last car was I needed extra ground clearance for the soft sand on Moreton Island, where we go a lot.

    One last point. I also finance my cars on novated lease and have always done well on my Subarus when selling them. They hold their value exceptionally well.
     
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    DPS Driver A Local

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  17. Ozgirl

    Ozgirl Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    Hybrid Rav4?
     
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    Kletterer Thredbo Doughnut Tragic Moderator

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    If you plan to utilise 4wd Fire Trails then i would advise getting a full 4WD ( with Dual Diff Lock options) . No point in half measures. Getting stuck can be a real PITA .
     
  19. dawooduck

    dawooduck relaxed and comfortable Ski Pass: Gold

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    Rocks removed and driveway smoothed but .... laneway potholes are getting bigger
     
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  20. kaegee

    kaegee One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Haven’t looked through the threat but would like one of these ...parked outside of the @Fozzie Bear lodge in CPass
     
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    Fozzie Bear A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Need it parked at Perisher for the trip up.......
     
  22. sly_karma

    sly_karma Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    There's an old saying: 4WD won't prevent you from getting stuck. It just ensures you'll get stuck deeper and further from home.

    Actually I'm a proponent of 'proper' 4WD as well. 4 HI is a noticeable step up from 'Auto' or AWD as the diffs lock. I used it extensively yesterday as 10 cm of very wet sloppy snow fell, came down hard at commute time on a Monday morning. Building site access and steep not-yet-ploughed side streets definitely called for it. I'm but an occasional bush driver, but 4 LO sure is nice to have for steep descents and climbs. The other time it gets used is reversing boats and caravans, the low gearing makes for more precise throttle control at super low speeds.
     
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    sly_karma Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    FWIW my big Silverado behemoth is pretty decent on fuel for a 2700 kg V8. Pic below is on the good side of highway driving, usually it averages 10.5 - 11 L/100 km. In town this rises to 14-15 L/100 km. Bed payload is 1400 kg and max towing capacity is 4800 kg.

     
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  24. BrockF

    BrockF Hard Yards

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    Alex Honnold’s ride is pretty sweet! Electric, 4WD, plenty of room.
     
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