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Best ski touring/hiking watch in the Main Range

Discussion in 'Backcountry' started by POW_hungry, Jun 21, 2017.

  1. POW_hungry

    POW_hungry Part of the Furniture Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    So as the title might suggest, I am in the market for a multi-day touring/hiking watch that suits the MR conditions. There's such a broad range out there it's plenty of stuff I don't need such as HRM, lap timers etc. what I am after is one that has:
    • Time/Timezone
    • Altimeter
    • Temp
    • Barometer
    • Light
    • Accurate GPS (as easy to use as possible)
    • Value for money (obvs but if I am spending $700 I want it to last atleast 5-10 yrs, ya know?)
    So part of the question is what do you use in the backcountry (MR) for touring with the above in mind. The rest of the question is: what's the best out there?
     
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    Boodwah One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    mr Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    Fenix 5 is the new garmin multisport

    Ive got a fenix 3, only does lat/longs not UTM or GDA94 etc. Cant remember which format NSW maps are. Fenix 3 will do 18 hours gps but can charge on the go

    Like boodwah says though your phone can do most things
     
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    PiedPiper One of Us

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    I've got a suunto traverse. love it.
    simple enough to use, only 2 colour screen keeps the interface simple and easy to read, even in poor conditions.
    big buttons makes it easy to use with gloves on.
    temp sensor works, but when attached to wrist is useless for ambient temp.

    GPS, barometer and altimeter all work as expected.
    Ability to set how often the GPS updates is v useful for managing battery use.
     
  5. POW_hungry

    POW_hungry Part of the Furniture Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yeah, touche. I struggle with the accuracy of GPS on iPhone - perhaps it's a trust thing when deep in the MR more than anything else.
     
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    skifree grey Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Fenix should do UTM or WGS84 or GDA94, mine does
     
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    Boodwah One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Back up Iphone w caveat of having backup power. But a couple times Iphone has got me out of trouble when a watch wouldn't, particularly w GPS on downloaded maps using Handel and Grettle path finding in thick fog. Or finding a hut in the dark. No watch can do that.
     
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    mr Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    ooo ooo oo @skifree......how did you change that??
     
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    skifree grey Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    I'll have to remind myself, givevme a day or so.
     
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    mr Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    Thanks @skifree. i tried with instructions but couldnt find it. i havent done a web search
     
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    mr Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    all i found was this but couldnt work out how to do it.....

     
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    CarveMan Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    CarveMan Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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  15. POW_hungry

    POW_hungry Part of the Furniture Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Thanks @PiedPiper I've been looking at this exact watch for a while now. Glad to hear you hold it in good regard. It's top of the list again. Cheers for your reply.

    Thanks @mr have you notice any deterioration in 18 hour battery life whilst in sub-zero temps. As I am chasing something that can endure a multi-day trek, I am assuming I might be able to charge with a USB style charger?
     
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    Lad weather watch dirt cheap altimeter watch with good reviews. EDIT: No GPS though...
    $70 bucks.
     
  17. POW_hungry

    POW_hungry Part of the Furniture Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Great advice, thanks!
     
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    POW_hungry Part of the Furniture Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Ha, amazing. That's value for money just not sure I'd have any trust in it. That said, they are a US/Japanese brand (typically well engineered).

    Their motto is a bit, lol... Always Into Outdoor
     
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    mr Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    No issues for me but i wear my watch on my wrist so temp given wont ever be the ambient and it keeps it warm.....unsure if you wore it say on your pack how it would go. 18 hrs is time when logging something on gps. It lasts about a month on just normal function

    Yes, usb charge
     
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    POW_hungry Part of the Furniture Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Great, thanks. yeah, I also intend to wear it on my wrist.:thumbs:
     
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    piolet Better make it three Ski Pass: Gold

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    Hey @CarveMan how do your Suntos go for multi day trips, power wise?
     
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    CarveMan Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yeah pretty good now with the Ambit 3. I haven't taken the Spartan on a multi-day trip as they only just got the software sorted.

    Pretty sure you can get 2-3 days of full GPS tracking off a charge, but being the nerd I am I roll with a usb charger most of the time. I am actually addicted to power banks. It's a problem. This is my latest one: http://www.omnicharge.co/ and I'm looking for a reason to get this: http://ecoflowtech.com/
     
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    Does it bake bread also?
     
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    Actually I can see you skinning with it now, and a drone, and phone and ......
     
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    mr Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    I gots me one of them solar chargers....arvo
     
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    piolet Better make it three Ski Pass: Gold

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    Thats not too bad for full tracking. Have been having a l
    Not too bad for tracking... have been having a look into em recently as it seems they have matured somewhat. Dropping bday hints to the missus... hmmm
     
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    OK I have the Fenix 1, but I spose the general logic is the same.

    Setup > Pos Format > Format > UTM UPS

    then

    Setup > Pos Format > Datum > GDA94 OR WGS84 OR it maybe just GDA

    Your can tailor the data screens you see when scrolling through the screens in normal, tacking and navigating modes. Usually I am only using tracking mode with GPS on. So I have a screen that gives me GPS location and below that the accuracy.

    Setup > Data Page > Tracking > add Page > 2 field > LOC and ACC

    Hopefully this makes sense.
     
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    mr Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    fkn genius skifree!! thanks.

    i found it all in there! Just had to believe i could do it. all the international datums are there

    There is so much to these watches........
     
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    POW_hungry Part of the Furniture Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Thank you all to those who contributed. I bit the bullet and got an amazing deal on a Suunto Traverse. This forum somewhat confirmed my thoughts, concerns and ideas. Thanks again team.✌
     
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    Congrats - you should have got a Always Into Outdoor watch though.
     
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    skifree grey Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    I forgot to mention you have to set up the data pages in each profile you use.

    So if you want to see the location in your hiking profile and your skiing profile and your skitour profile, you will need to edit each one.

    I spent all day sitting in a tent in Tas on a rest day setting up each profile that i use.
     
  32. Ubiquitous Steve

    Ubiquitous Steve A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Those manufacturers must love you guys...a ready market
    for electronic gadgets,,,how the MR was tamed to the nearest metre in all conditions....now we all have the power on out little screens!!

    With all this technology at hand ....could we expect a solar cell on the Schlink Hilton Roof to power a backcountry electrical toaster there..Team Bears like toast for Brecky perhaps with a light spread of marmalade.

    Embrace the gadget age roll out the cells and battery packs....perhaps a small microwave too if KNP can manage some funds??

    Bears want to know why so many satellites are still off line....do we have reliability issues involved....some type of antena issues.....
     
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    Xplora One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    My Casio has all the functions except GPS but it is solar powered and I can dive with it to 18m. Just don't push the buttons at that depth. I use a Garmin eTrex for GPS if I need one. Bigger screen. I bought the watch online cheap and together they added up to less than a Sunto with all the gear. Charging is always a problem. A GPS is not needed all the time unless you want to track. I can see a value with it in a watch if weight is that critical.
     
  34. piolet

    piolet Better make it three Ski Pass: Gold

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    Isnt it a vicco hut that has a mobile booster

    lel
     
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    Ubiquitous Steve A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Must say Nokia 2G led function sure good for getting down track at night !!
    But Bears say Vodophone is ganna kill the 2G at the end of Sept.so we might have to get a "real phone".......we will miss the little gizmo though!

    Suppose Cleve Cole has some gadgets in its back room to run off solar panels and batteries.

    Phone boosters at Michelle and Federation.......if they work they are a good idea in case of emergency.
     
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    Hi Everybody,
    The thought of wearing a watch, hmmm, seems little dated these days really. Seems just a miniature millstone around your wrist, all that weight, lol. I have taken to using a Garmin 64st GPS, I have all the information I require, customisable maps, temperature, altimeter, Barometer and totally customisable backlit and chargeable on the go as well. If I am keen I will couple it with my heart rate monitor, and Tempe (temperature sensor) which is mounted on my pack. My iphone kept safe and secure and turned off.

    Sweet... Under $500 to boot

    Why would you want a glorified, tokenistic, fangle dangle arm bracelet? :D:thumbs::D:thumbs:
     
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    GS A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    That one would power an electric blanket, you won't need a sleeping bag!
     
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    Xplora One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Not so much booster but cradles which have an inductive antenna pick up connected to an external antenna. Yes they do work well and I have one for my car. It has been used several times in an emergency. The cradle at Cleve Cole works as well but you have to hold it on as one side is broken. Elastic band also does the trick. As for gadgets in the back room, perhaps become a member and find out. I think maybe you will be disappointed. New batteries were installed last year but they are not huge in capacity.
     
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    I have a 14 year old Suunto Vector watch (forerunner to the Core) which like Xplora's has all the required function except gps. Simple and only needs the battery changing once a year - I am a bit of an altimeter junkie on ascents. I am loathe to get something that requires charging every day or so as I tend to do trips of 5+ days and don't use gps as a permanently on feature or bother to create tracks of my walks. For gps I use my phone with Avenza or a Garmin eTrex 30 depending on the area but only when required so I usually get 4 to 7 days out of a charge.
     
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    Just to be clear on batteries with the garmin fenixes, if you are not using the gps to track activities, the battery will last 4 weeks or so. The 18 hour life is only when tracking. You can still use altimeter, barometer, nav systems (eg location), temp, pedometer, etc etc for weeks without charge....

    battery life on standard hand held gps such as etrex in full nav mode etc is around 20-25 hours IIRC
     
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    Tanuki A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Check out Goal Zero and Jaycar have also got some nifty solar powered units
     
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    Tanuki A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Iv
    is this done through the app on your phone /computer or on the watch?
     
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    mr Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    On the watch. Ive worked it all out now!
     
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    Tanuki A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Can you please do a YouTube tutorial ;)
     
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    mr Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    Now that would be pushin my technical nouse!
     
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    My etrex 30 usually lasts five plus days on alkaline rechargeable batteries turning off at night when I remember
     
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    That last one does look interesting, but maybe not so much for most skiing - 5kg and $700USD + shipping = scary! For car camping or longer term base camp use it could be worth it, though I won't be buying one for cycle touring...
     
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    Red_switch Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: 30 Day

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    The biggest power consumer on most of these watches is Bluetooth.

    Very happy Fenix 3 user here.
     
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    Thinking about the Fenix 5x , seems to be the only 5 with topo maps ?

    Got a ambit 3 peak it sucks !
     
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    Suunto Vertex great watch.
    1st one lasted 12 years fell on it mtbiking repaired , now 7 yrs on 2nd one .
    Super reliable , strong ,batteries last forever.
    For GPS I use my Garmin 820 lasts about 12-14 hrs then needs recharge.
    Sometimes I use the return to start function in cities esp Moroccan medinas.