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Bit sick of the anti snowboard news

Discussion in 'Snow Talk' started by zac150, Feb 15, 2020 at 12:29 PM.

  1. zac150

    zac150 One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Controversial headlines get clicks. Miles knows that.
     
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    chicski A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    No different to anti cycling news. You know “cyclist dies after colliding with car” instead of “car driver hits cyclist from behind while texting”. Haters gonna hate.
     
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    parkmonkey Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I bet the snowboarder had been smoking marijuana cigarettes
     
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    Having just come back from Zillertal, I'm surprised by the fact that there even was a snowboarder involved. I don't think I have ever been to a resort with less snowboarders. They are noticeable due to the almost complete absence of them.
     
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    It's the skier's fault - time and time again we are warned about not wearing helmets
     
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    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Never wear anthracite. It makes you crazy!
     
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  8. DidSurfNowSki

    DidSurfNowSki One of them Ski Pass: Gold

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    Wouldn't have happened in Deer Valley or Alta :rolleyes:
     
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    Harper11 Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    They could have said snow sports enthusiast and everyone would still know it was a snowboarder
     
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    Skier Fighting for His Life After Being Bludgeoned with His Own Ski Pole
    Yup. Still a snow boarder.
     
  11. Legs Akimbo

    Legs Akimbo Grumblebum Ski Pass: Gold

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    Exactly. If it was a skier he could have used his own pole and not (potentially) damage someone else's property.
     
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    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    Skier or snowboarder could both be left out of that story and replaced with two aggressive arseholes.

    Today in class we were discussing situational awareness in the light of a lot of skiers straight lining the black piste we were using for drills. Many times they came very close to serious crashes (potentially fatal) at the speeds they were running. It showed a complete lack of being aware of the responsibility of the uphill skier to not hit downhill skiers who are turning on the piste. (Skier here is being used as skier or boarder).

    Our coach told us about an incident in his class two years ago where students were performing one by one carve demonstrations using most of the piste width. It was a carefully controlled drill with students looking above and below before they set off. A skier straight lining the run ran straight into the boarder in his heelside carved traverse of the hill - it was a huge hit and lucky no one was seriously injured. Coach had been video taping the run for later analysis class (which is exactly what we will be doing this afternoon). The skier jumped straight up and was running back up the hill with intention of punching the boarder in the face - abusing him for taking him out from the side and being out of control and a menace on the hill. The coach was also running up the hill yelling at the guy to stop. Skier was super aggressive and argumentative but coach pulled out the video and showed him the accident and how he had run straight into the boarder and made no movement to avoid an obvious line of a downhill rider. It took a while for him to realise he was actually in the wrong but eventually he backed down and apologised. Coach told him to take that lesson back to his mates and start treating the hill and others with more respect. I’m sure that went down well LOL

    Bottom line for me having spent a lot of hours on the hill this season, many of them using the full width of the piste for demonstrations (something I normally would not do) is you’re pretty vulnerable and relying on others doing the right thing - and they often don’t. They don’t look ahead and see what’s going on around them. We’ve had tight groups sitting at the side of a piste getting instruction and skiers have literally come so close that they’ve run over one guys hand, and clipped our stationary boards - there is absolutely no need to come so close.

    In my level 1 exam a skier crashed straight into our examiner as he was demoing the skill we were to show. Definitely not the examiners lack of awareness!

    I’ve had a few crashes myself this season, only one at high speed and that was an out of control kid that I couldn’t avoid, the rest have been low speed and purely because the uphill rider (most were actually snowboarders) had not considered the predictable line I was taking downhill of them. Yesterday was 180s across the fall line. Young girl did a toe to heel turn goofy but uphill and off her previous path trajectory right into the landing zone of my frontside 180. We only clipped boards and dropped for safety - and both apologised. All good - it happens. But high speed aggressive blame game - no good for anyone!
     
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    It can be the instructor. The only time I have been pulled up on the hill was in Vail. It was a widish piste and I was doing tight turns completely in control. An instructor was taking a class of near beginners (it was a blue run) down. There must have been 12 students. The instructor had them in a snake and they were strung across the whole run. I had the choice of barrelling through the class or skiing quite close to the instructor. Obviously I chose the latter and was bawled out. When I explained my dilemma she backed down a bit.
     
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    Note to self: never lend a snowboarder one of my ski poles.
     
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    What @LMB said at the end of the day they were just too aggressive wankers on the hill, one goes over the top at somebody sliding to close to him and his friends and unfortunately picks the wrong person who clearly snapped and lost it.

    not a good situation at all and easily avoidable.

    as @telecrag says “it’s always a good day on the hill”.
     
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    I won’t lie. It was good to spend most of my recent trip at Shiga Kogen where the pistes weren’t too busy and most skiers and boarders weren’t that fast. There were a few moments where I felt needed to have eyes in the back of my head but they were few and far between.

    As much as I loved some things about St Anton I’m not sure I’d return as last trip there I had a few moments when I was genuinely terrified by the sheer numbers on the slope and the behaviour of some.

    It all reminds me a bit of how some people drive. No situational awareness and blatent selfishness (I do live in Adelaide :D)
     
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    If they only steal em you're lucky it seems
     
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    Charlie Still the most depraved poster here Ski Pass: Gold

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    and you're still a jinx LMB!

    :out:
     
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    Charlie Still the most depraved poster here Ski Pass: Gold

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    Your fault Legs, as soon as you realised the class had a female instructor, you should have just stopped until they were off the piste!
     
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    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    To be fair “follow the leader snakes” are much more of a ski group thing than a board group thing - although they do have their applications should the situation allow.

    All of the scenarios I mentioned were ONE rider at a time, being assessed or videoed. Not hard to avoid with any kind of awareness.
     
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