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Discussion in 'Japan' started by Tonester, Nov 8, 2019.

  1. Tonester

    Tonester Lift Line Nazi Ski Pass: Gold

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    I just love planning my japow trips. It's like an artist and their blank canvas.....there areso many possibilities.
    But, I'm presently just overwhelmed by choice. I like to discover those new gems. But I also like revisiting some of my faves.
    Oh, Japow! You're an evil mistress. Why do you have to offer so many choices?
    I do want my cake and to eat it too.
    /patheticfirstworldproblemwhingeover
     
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  2. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    or plan B - wing it according to snow conditions
    Which are a bit hard to find out, for the smaller hills, obviously.
     
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  3. Tonester

    Tonester Lift Line Nazi Ski Pass: Gold

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    yep
     
  4. D-eye

    D-eye Photographer and skier Moderator

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    Stick the choices on a piece of paper, throw a dart at it, job done :)
     
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  5. ojisan

    ojisan station master Ski Pass: Gold

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    base yourself somewhere & drive to the local hills that have the best conditions on that day.
     
  6. japower

    japower Hard Yards

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    I can totally relate. For the upcoming trip this winter, I'll be revisiting a favorite (Nozawa) and checking out a new place (Togakushi).
     
  7. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Not quite off the radar like @Tonester is heading.

    Togakushi is incredibly popular with Nagano city residents.

    Just go there on a weekday
     
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  8. japower

    japower Hard Yards

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    Noted. Thanks very much.
     
  9. Crispy013

    Crispy013 One of Us

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    What region are you looking at?
     
  10. Heinz

    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I'm mixing it up a bit this time also. Checking out a couple of lesser known smaller areas, maybe a well known one that I haven't been to before, plus another well known one that I last skied over 30 years ago.
     
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  11. ojisan

    ojisan station master Ski Pass: Gold

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    Also, try and hit it up after a dump...
    It's got a few awesome powder runs.
     
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  12. Tonester

    Tonester Lift Line Nazi Ski Pass: Gold

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    @Donzah I'm glad you understand me!
     
  13. Tonester

    Tonester Lift Line Nazi Ski Pass: Gold

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    Well...Tohoku is like the siren call. But then...Gunma has some very tasty looking options. And, while Yuzawa is a growth area, I still want to check it out
     
  14. Tonester

    Tonester Lift Line Nazi Ski Pass: Gold

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    @Heinz ...and I'm sure you understand my dilemna
     
  15. Tonester

    Tonester Lift Line Nazi Ski Pass: Gold

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    Will consider....but this does not help with my original problem. You're just adding to the ever growing places I want to ski.
     
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  16. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I'm looking fwd to kicking around gifu with a car.

    With family in tow. May be some two romance lift skijo type spots.
    Lift tix for 20man
     
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  17. ojisan

    ojisan station master Ski Pass: Gold

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    There are some hidden gifu gems around.
    And you can score some pretty special powder days :snowboarder:
     
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  18. Tonester

    Tonester Lift Line Nazi Ski Pass: Gold

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    I do like your thinking
     
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  19. PMG

    PMG One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Hi! ;)
     
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  20. M_G

    M_G M_G_ = Make skiing great again Ski Pass: Gold

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    My intent is this season is to solo road trip some Toyama resorts. Tateyama Sanroku looks seriously tasty. Maybe Seaside Valley on the way down.

    Plus
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  21. Tonester

    Tonester Lift Line Nazi Ski Pass: Gold

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    @M_G You know, you're not helping my dilemma in any way.
     
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  22. LMB

    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    Thankful I don’t have to face that dilemma every bloody year. Just book the flight and car and “go home”, then take car trips to a few new little treasures each season.
     
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  23. Tonester

    Tonester Lift Line Nazi Ski Pass: Gold

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    very jelly
     
  24. m2711c

    m2711c First Runs

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    Trying to pick just one region is hard enough, then ya gotta pick which ones to hit within the region. All these choices are just to good.

    My self debate right now is between heading up north to hit Geto Kogen, Tazawako and Ani, or staying a little closer and heading west to Iiyama and hit Myoko, Madarao and Shiga Kogen. Any suggestions?
     
  25. Hermannator

    Hermannator One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Go by the numbers: Myoko, Minakami, Geto, Yuzawa, Niseko all had well over 500cm accumulation by Jan '19. Myoko over 1,000cm...
     
  26. Crispy013

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    Then there's the Aizu region between Yuzawa and Geto....too much choice :whistle:
     
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  27. ojisan

    ojisan station master Ski Pass: Gold

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    where have you been to in Japan ?

    If it was me & I had this dilemma, I would go somewhere I hadn't been to before
     
  28. Crispy013

    Crispy013 One of Us

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    Need to remember that numbers can sometime be misleading...

    i.e. some places wayyyy under report.
     
  29. ojisan

    ojisan station master Ski Pass: Gold

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    and they only report overnight falls.... for some reason, daytime snow amounts are vastly overlooked
     
  30. Hermannator

    Hermannator One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Yes.. but I think snowjapan is pretty independent. Note the stats are for village level e.g. Hakuba doesn't look as good as the others
     
  31. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I don't read SJ for Hakuba anymore... I found it pretty misleading.
    I find the FB reports, Damien's and JMA obs the best for Hakuba
     
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  32. Tonester

    Tonester Lift Line Nazi Ski Pass: Gold

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    yep...I feel your pain
     
  33. Tonester

    Tonester Lift Line Nazi Ski Pass: Gold

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    yes they are. But my understanding is that they report what the resort report. Which, is often underestimated
     
  34. blowfin

    blowfin One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    I had a bit of help deciding this year... I'm joining some people for a week in Otaru, and then the plan is to catch up with someone else and do some days at Hakkoda. Tacked on a couple of days at an Onsen town (with a ski hill) at the end. I still have a gap between the Friday and Monday to fill though. Absolutely no rush to book anything though.

    How about a "Winter Ropeways of Japan" tour @Tonester? :D
     
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  35. m2711c

    m2711c First Runs

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    I haven’t been anywhere in Japan yet. The only place that I can eliminate right now is Hukuba as I am already planning on hitting that next year with my ski club.

    I’m looking to get away from the crowds first. Whether they be foreign or Japanese, I’m not a big fan of crowds. I find that people tend to be much friendlier when there’s not as many other folks around to piss them off. Hopefully, I can find some place that I can get away from the crowds yet still enjoy a lot of fresh snow.
     
  36. Crispy013

    Crispy013 One of Us

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    Eliminate the resorts around Nagano then. Myoko, Madarao, Nozawa, etc are some of the most popular in Japan for local and international travellers. That being said, if you have a car and are willing to travel, there are plenty of smaller, off the well worn path to have fun at. If you don’t plan on having a car, then head north. Just a bit less western influence (ie. not much English) so that could be challenging for a first timer.
     
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  37. Tonester

    Tonester Lift Line Nazi Ski Pass: Gold

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    There's plenty of one and two lift hills about.
    If you're in Hokkaido, Mashike would suit. Basically, a small local hill. No lockers. Just leave your gear around the heater in the main building. We had some fun for an afternoon here.
     
  38. Tonester

    Tonester Lift Line Nazi Ski Pass: Gold

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    You know, @Ramenman doesn't help my problem.
    She keeps posting some very, very tempting stuff.
     
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  39. susie2609

    susie2609 Hard Yards

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    This is a great thread... We had our three week trip in Jan/Feb pretty much mapped out with plans for car hire and visits to smaller hills. Now the husband (aka driver/tourguide) has had to cancel due to work so it's just me and the 14y.o.. So I'm now revisiting the itinerary and looking for places that are easy to access. We have a week in Madarao locked in but the week before is now in question. We were going to base ourselves at at guesthouse on Lake Nojiri and drive to Togakushi and Iizuna for a couple of days. Now I'm thinking something closer to a town/city to break up the on-snow days. Any ideas??
     
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  40. ojisan

    ojisan station master Ski Pass: Gold

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    When getting away from the crowds in Japan, you are likely to end up in places where little or no English is spoken.
    And that can be quite daunting to people who haven't visited before.
     
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    Idea A : A friend of mine was just like Tonester-san last month. She ended up cancelling the ski travel to save up some money to visit Japan next summer to see Tokyo Olympics 2020. Not sure if Tonester-san is interested in visiting Japan in green season, though.

    Idea B : If you can't choose where to visit, how about simply joining a ski tour(the tour organizer choose where to go). Not sure if ski tours from Australia to Japan are reasonable or not, but ski tours in Japan are usually very reasonable in that hotels, lift tickets, guides, etc are often discounted(group discount prices are applied). Or you can make a thread here "Ski travel with meeee!". Tonester-san is a very well experienced Japow traveller, so, you can organize a mini tour. You let him / her / them to choose ski resorts. He / she / they'll pay hiring cars in Japan + dinner for you;)

    Idea C : Visiting ski resort regions to look for a reasonable lodge to buy;). If it's Tohoku, this kind of 30+ year old lodges are available around 10 million Yen. The lodge is at the base of Takatsue ski resort and it's 8 million Yen now(still on sale and the condition is not bad). It's close to Daikura, Nango, not too far to Takahata, Mt.Bandai region, etc. There is Tobu Raiway's line between Asakusa(Tokyo) - Nikko - The ski resort region in Fukushima.
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    You can drive 10 seater cars with a normal driver's license in Japan(11 seaters or more, you need a special license, IIRC). With 10 seater Toyota Hiace, you can drive your guests to ski resorts nearby (and backcountry mountains);)
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    Sorry, I know I'm not helping Tonester-san by this post:oops:
     
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  42. Tonester

    Tonester Lift Line Nazi Ski Pass: Gold

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    Helping. Not helping. :):cry::)
    But I'd like to know if I have a lazy 8 million yen in my bank account.
     
  43. m2711c

    m2711c First Runs

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    I like the cheap pricing on the lodges for sale, but buying a business is not the same as buying a house. Can you tell me what are the basic legal requirements for setting up a lodging business in Japan? What could be expected as far as basic costs, fees, taxes and various permits necessary just to get started with this deal?

    I'm just wondering, cause if lodges are this cheap, how much is it for just a small house or cabin somewhere close to something fun to ski in the Tohoku region?



    Inquiring minds would like to know!
     
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    m2711c First Runs

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    yep, got my eye on that area also. Life is too short.
     
  45. Hermannator

    Hermannator One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Free!
    www.akiya-athome.jp
    www.homes.co.jp/akiyabank
     
  46. m2711c

    m2711c First Runs

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    That is what I was was thinking. Thanks for confirming it. The ease of travel to these locations from Tokyo was the reason that I was initially looking there. But if it is easy for me then it is probably gonna be easy for everyone else too.

    That is why I was thinking about taking the Shinkansen from Tokyo up to Kitakami or Morioka and then renting a car to hit the white stuff in between Geto Kogen and Ani for 7 days. Then drop the car off and train back to the airport in Tokyo.

    Does that sound feasible?


    As far as language goes, I am not that worried about the lack of english. I may be new to Japan, but I am not new to foreign travel... and quite frankly I tend bumble about quite a bit here at home too... despite my supposedly firm grasp of the english language. At least there I will have an excuse!
     
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    m2711c First Runs

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    did I ever tell you about that time in sicily when I thought I had ordered a lovely trout dinner and ended up with the tripe instead?















    but, I lived to tell the tale....
     
  48. Heinz

    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    It's not simply ease of access from Tokyo that is the issue with crowds. For foreigners it is where foreign owners have set up businesses to attract other foreigners.

    Train up and back to Morioka and doing a week or two in that region is certainly feasible - done that a few times. Plenty of options. Get a JR East 5 day Tohoku pass and you'll save quite a bit.

    You are right language in itself shouldn't be an issue especially for an experienced traveller. Things in Japan work pretty well once you know roughly how it works. If you don't need instruction, guiding, child minding etc it's hardly an issue at all.
     
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    I don't think that I'm going to be able to make it up to Hokkaido during this trip, but I do want hit some lesser known areas. Think ski area vs. resort. I really don't need much in the way of resort type services. Working lifts, decent vertical, tasty lunches and beer is about all I need..... oh, and snow. Lots and lots o' snow.


    Is that asking too much?
     
  50. Tonester

    Tonester Lift Line Nazi Ski Pass: Gold

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    You're asking for free, unqualified legal advice? I would suggest you do your own due diligence.
    Now...let's get back to the problem at hand.
     
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