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Victorian Alps Bogong High Plains Dec.2017. 5 day trek

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  1. Mister Tee on XC Skis

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    I lead a small VNPA group over the Bogong High Plains from 27/12/17 - 31/12/17.
    My camera died on day 4 so sadly no photos of the wildflowers, snow gums or feral horses on the route out to Fitzgerald's hut from Roper's hut could be captured. We had all kinds of weather during the trip but essentially the trip was book ended by sunny and clear conditions.

    I was using a film camera which has served me well but alas I am now having a funeral for that point and shoot jobbie and now a have a digital camera with a proper lens and adjustable shutter speed.
    Day 1.Watch bed Creek to Roper's hut. We had Lunch at Edmondson's hut.
     
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    Edmondson's hut. Day 1.
    It looks very different in green season.
     
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    We saw snow, a skiable ribbon run on the SE Face of Mt. Nelse North.
    Day 1.
    27.12.17
     
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    Camping at Roper's hut is always pleasant.
    Day 1.
     
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    Day 2. We went up to the 3rd highest point in Vic., 1893 M. near Warby Corner. This place has no name but is marked with a small cairn.
     
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    Day 2. Roper's hut/Warby Corner/Spion Kopje / Grey Hills/ Mt. Arthur/ Bogong Creek Saddle.
    A quite L O N G but very scenic day of walking.The steep descent from the Crow's Nest was a knee trembler.

     
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    DAY 2.The water falls that come off the BHP and form the start of Big River.
     
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    Day 2 . Heading up the Spion Kopje fire trail.
     
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    Day 2. Resting on top of Grey Hills knob. It was humid and slow going . The route was overgrown and the constant up and down nature of it was taxing.We saw a snake!
     
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    Day 2. Resting on top of Mt. Arthur ,looking over at
    the Quartz Ridge on Mt. Bogong.

     
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    Day 3. Packing up camp at Bogong Creek Saddle. The old helipad was busy with other campers/walkers.
    We had torrential rain overnight at the old Helipad with very nearby thunder and lightening.The weather forecast still looked a bit rough for a trip over the summit of Mt. Bogong via the Quartz Ridge so we went up Timm' s spur which was pleasant and scenic.
     
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    Day 3. Crossing Big River at the bottom of Timm's spur.A leech crawled onto my leg. :-0
     
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    Day 3 . Views from the slog up Timm's spur.It looked like rain was coming but we made it back to Roper's hut before the storm hit.
     
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    Day 3 , Looking over at the instrument of torture, a.k.a The Grey Hills Knob from Timm's spur/Big River Fire trail .
     
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    Day 3. Grand old snow gums on Timm's Spur.
     
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    Day 3. Back on the BHP near Timm's Lookout , on the Big River Fire trail heading for Roper's hut ,( having ascended from Big River) with amazing wildflowers showing off everywhere.
     
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    Day 4. It was very stormy and rained for 12 hours with strong winds and fog on Day 3 just as we reached Roper's hut.It cleared up a bit as we packed up and walked out towards Johnston's hut for lunch on day 4.
     
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    Day 4. Roper's hut , the morning after the storm.
     
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    Day 4 . Lunch at Johnston's hut. Another summer drift of snow on Mt. Nelse was spotted and somebody had skied it! .I could see the tracks.
     
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    Day 4. Another grand old Snow Gum Tree near the Fitzgerald's hut track junction with the Big River fire track. Alas my camera died not long after this rest spot.
     
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    Nice work, great report.:cool:
     
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    I think this is Mt Nice. 20 + years since i have seen it without snow.
     
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    Very nice pics.....your presentation of photos could make it hard for some to market the FHAW ...looks like other areas abound with equal or greater sightseeing potential!

    Perhaps people are seeiing that several long day walks or a few two day walks may offer more than the Iconic Walk being marketed by Parks and it's associated organisations.
    Maybe they are concentrating to hard on the one "Iconic Walk"and need to spread the funds over the geography of BHP,???
     
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    I believe it is known to most as Maisie's knoll or something like that. It would be a fitting name for it given the amount of work she did for conservation in the area.
     
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    The new planned route for the new FHAC development can easily be boiled down into day walks or simple one night pack carry hikes that capture the best scenery without the slog up the Diamantina spur and the ugly proposed developments.
    To see what we saw over 5 days /4 nights and to immerse yourself in that world you just have carry 5-6 days worth of food and your camping gear. I cannot see the Grey Hills being turned into a wheelchair friendly 'Club Med' meets 'Lego land' tourist walk.You'd need to put a chairlift in from Mt. Arthur down to Bogong Creek Saddle ! ;-P.
     
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    The Grey Hills is exactly where the iconic walk should go.
     
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    Shhhh!! They may be watching.
     
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    Welcome to the dark side Mr. Tee.
     
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    No wonder Parks Management are in trouble ....if they take anything in here to seriously! 80percent of Head Office have probably gotta locate Mt Beauty by referring to a goggle map.
     
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    If that's accurate it's not surprising.
    From PV's website:

    Parks Victoria protects and enhances over four million hectares of parks. It is also the Local Port Manager for Port Phillip Bay, Western Port and Port Campbell and the Waterway Manager for the Yarra and Maribyrnong rivers.

    These areas include:
    • 45 national parks
    • 26 state parks
    • 13 marine national parks
    • 11 marine sanctuaries
    • 3 wilderness parks
    • 30 metropolitan parks
    • 60 other parks (including regional and reservoir parks)
    • more than 2,700 natural features and conservation reserves
    • more than 11,000 formally registered Aboriginal cultural heritage places
    • more than 2,500 non-Indigenous historic places
    Parks Victoria manages more than 28,000 assets. They include:
    • 46 visitor centre buildings
    • 727 shelters
    • 833 toilets
    • 506 viewing lookouts
    • 59 playgrounds
    • 14,000 kilometres of roads
    • 1,293 pedestrian and vehicular bridges
    • 3,700km of walking tracks
    • 122 sporting facilities (e.g. golf courses, ovals and wickets)
    • 211 piers and jetties
    • 110 water access points (e.g. boat ramps, rowing launches and slipways), and
    • 812 navigation aids
    Our parks and waterways attract 98.5 million visits each year. Of these visits, 53.8 million are to parks and 44.6 million are to piers and jetties around the bays.
     
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    Looks like they are too busy to take on any more National Park responsibilities...!!

    So discussion of a further National Park is a bit ridiculous!!

    Team Bears a minor player with only 28picnic tables in the field!:whistle:.
    Compared to Parks Vic with 28.000assets....

    Golf courses,ovals and wickets ?
    Well if we expanded development on Big River Saddle Helipad we could establish an oval or cricket pitch but funds are limited and other works are in the planning stage!:thumbs:
     
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    Steve I would like to see the new National Park but adding new national parks without adequate funding is simply stupid. I honestly believe that our state politicians think Victoria ends at the junction of Spring Street and Collins. I don't know what they do with the billions of dollars of revenue that they have access to but I see very little real interest in making Australia and Victoria in particular a better place to live
     
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    Too Right. Our cities are becoming hopelessly congested and over developed with no public benefit and without comprehensive London Tube train type networks with user friendly interconnectivity we are 5 years away from total gridlock. The public health costs that will flow on from this insanity will be considerable. Nat. Parks are the places of wellness.
     
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    Enough drift off topic thanks.
     
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    Thanks for sharing the great photos and report. Especially, the North Nelse drift, has me thinking ...
    BTW, We were at Johnstons a couple of days later and saw your entry in the book.
     
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    Discussions with PV yesterday about a number of topics including the Grey Hills and it was agreed some basic track marking around Mt. Arthur and possibly some limited scrub clearing to define the track better. Bushwalking Vic have been responsible for some work on the lower section of Mt. Arthur and PV will talk to them again to see if they are interesting in marking. There are a couple of false tracks but the track itself is a class E which is defined by use. Markings will stop people walking the false tracks more and hopefully open up the proper track.