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Booster straps?

Discussion in 'Equipment' started by Dumph, Oct 24, 2016.

  1. Dumph

    Dumph Hard Yards Ski Pass: Gold

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    Worth the investment and fiddling about? Looking to further tweak my boots and I think these might do the trick but interested in hearing other's experiences. Are they easy enough to fit?
     
  2. CarveMan

    CarveMan Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    I'm a big fan. Usually easy to fit, depends on the boot - most power straps are screwed in with allen screws. Tough luck if it's riveted.

    Line it up, mark where the hole/s need to go, heat up a phillips head screwdriver with a blowtorch and push through the strap.
     
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  3. Zimboo

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    Booster all the way!!!
    Ever since I purchased a pair of Nordica boots about 10 years ago that had the elastic strap.
    I think Nordica had an agreement with Booster to make them for Nordica calling them "Energy Driver straps"?
    I love the rebound when flexing and the progressive flex.
     
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  5. CarveMan

    CarveMan Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yeah that's what got me in to Boosters too - I had the Nordica Beast then the Speedmachine that had the same.
     
  6. Telemark Phat

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    Booster fan here too. I was introduced to them when Scarpa had them on some models for a while.
     
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  7. CarveMan

    CarveMan Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    I even put them on my ultra-light touring boots.

    Naturally adding to the stiffness can't hurt, but It's so much better using the buckle on the booster than a velcro strap when you're transitioning from walk to hike - press the buckle to release it then yank on the strap to tighten.
     
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    We're like power strap twins!
     
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  9. Dumph

    Dumph Hard Yards Ski Pass: Gold

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    Thanks for everyone's help. Boots are inland at the moment but pretty sure they are riveted. I saw a tutorial on TGR and they said you have to drill them out and to watch out it doesn't get too hot or you'll melt your boot! Slightly freaked me out as I'm a menace with anything resembling a power tool.
     
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    It's easy. Just drill for a few seconds then take a break for a few seconds.
     
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  11. CarveMan

    CarveMan Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yes, but my bindings also work, so I've got that over you.
     
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  12. Telemark Phat

    Telemark Phat Pass the butter Ski Pass: Gold

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    Pfft, yours just have unnecessary redundancy.
     
  13. Kopite

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    Bumping this one. Thinking of investing in some of these. My boots have a rivited strap at the moment. I’m comfortable getting the old one off, but not sure about securing the new strap. Any thoughts on the best way to do that? Rivers, book screws etc.? Worth taking to a boot fitter to do?
     
  14. CarveMan

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    Depends if your existing strap is screwed or riveted in. If it's screwed then DIY, riveted is a bit harder.
     
  15. Kopite

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    Mine is riveted. I’m ok drilling the old rivets out, but unsure one the best option to put the new ones in. Thinking a boot fitter might be the safest?
     
  16. mauricem

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    Its a 5 minute job for the shop. They should fit them for free if you pay full retail which I recall was about $85 in JIndy. Looked at Amazon but CBF waiting
     
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    Kopite One of Us

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    Got some fitted last night. What a difference. Everyone should get them, they’re a huge improvement on your standard power strap.
     
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    Just tested out my new Booster Straps last week. I'm a fan. The feeling is as you'd expect, with the strap being constantly in contact with the shin rather than that 5-8mm of play before you hit the limits of the strap. It provides for a more progressive loading of the spine of the boot, and therefore the ski. Helps a bit coming out of a turn also, with some inbuilt rebound from the elastic strap.

    I'm lucky in that the Langes I was sorting out have a hex-head screw for the attachment of the strap. Simple to sort out. The one bit to concentrate on is correct placement of the hole in the new strap. The elastic to be centred on the shin after being tensioned.

    If the manufacturer's strap is riveted in I imagine any fitter would just go with another rivet. Simple.
     
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  19. Kopite

    Kopite One of Us

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    You summed up my experience far more eloquently than me! Definitely key to make sure the placement is right. My old strap was riveted and replacement is now a screw bolt thingy (technical term).
     
  20. Chowder11

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    I use a booster on my FT's.

    I love the rebound and added security you feel around the cuff especially when pushing hard.
    Would highly recommend a booster to anyone who is an advanced to expert skier.
     
  21. MickM

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    Interesting. Might have to look into these. I find in my boots (Technica Mach 1 RLV 130) they are quite harsh when skiing cruddy ice & bumps. I tighten the buckles & strap quite tight but there is no give at all.

    I suspect with the booster strap I wouldn't have to buckle up as tight to get the snug feeling, effectively giving me more ankle flex in the bumps?
     
  22. linked_recoveries

    linked_recoveries One of Us

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    That sounds about right.

    Is the Mach1 RLV the black one with orange buckles? A friend of mine bought a pair of those. They came with a blue, closed-cell foam compression pad beneath the power strap, like the shot below. A different approach to dealing with that small space between shin and strap.

     
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  23. MickM

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    That is the boot but mine are an earlier model with just the plain strap without the blue compression bit. Same buckle setup which you can crank up tight.
    What I really like about the boots is nothing is riveted including buckles.

    I think the booster strap might be a better solution.
     
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    linked_recoveries One of Us

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    For what you describe I think you're right. I went with the World Cup version of the strap, but then I'm 6'4"and 210lbs. I put myself somewhere near the red dot in the below chart. [edit - maybe, on reflection, if I let my ego fly freely, I might bump the dot one notch higher than that ... or maybe just half a notch :)]

     
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  25. MickM

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    I am about 75kg so I would probably go the Expert one.

    Notice Aussieskier have them.
     
  26. Kopite

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    I’m in Mach 1s as well (the 110 flex). The strap on mine was riveted (though the rivets look like a bolt), so might be wise to check that out.
     
  27. MickM

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    Cheers, will check tonight

    Checked, all good, screws
     
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    MickM One of Us Ski Pass: Gold Ski Pass: Silver

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    Just picked up some expert Booster straps from @Aussieskier & fitted them last night. Definitely closes that "gap"

    Will try them at Buller Mon-Wed. Hopefully notice a difference.
     
  29. CarveMan

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    Good thread bump.

    In the time since I made my earlier posts, touring boots have started to come with a buckle power strap instead of velcro so I haven't bothered with a Booster lately.
     
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  30. MickM

    MickM One of Us Ski Pass: Gold Ski Pass: Silver

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    Yeah the Technicas came with a buckle power strap (quite good set up) like the one above. Went for the boosters to see if the more progressive flex helps.

    I need all the help I can get!
     
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    I love the Booster Straps. I think they’re better than the improved similar strap on the Lange RS130, for instance, because of the elasticity.

    They’re definitely worth the investment.
     
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    Yep, I won't be going back to a static power strap.
     
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  33. MickM

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    Just back from 3 days at Buller with first impressions Booster Straps.

    I was able to angle the strap slightly so it pressed against the tongue not the shell. Just felt better for me.

    Big differences. From the first turn it felt like I had power steering on the skis. The turns were so responsive, especially the start of the turn, I suspect that was directly related to absence of any gap/slack between the tongue of the boot and my shin. The biggest improvement was my short turns.

    Also, no shin soreness at all, in fact, the boots were so comfortable from the start to end of the day. Another big plus was I didn't have to keep tightening the boots all day. I was able to loosen or tighten the strap slightly depending where I was skiing. For example, I loosened a little in the bumps to give a bit more flex. Left the top boot buckle at its loosest all day & let the strap do the work.

    Big :thumbs: from me
     
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    @CarveMan are you guys able to fit a pair of these to a riveted boot? Or do you not have the workshop?
     
  37. CarveMan

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    Yep we can do that, obviously it won't be as neat as factory as the fittings we have here are generic, but they will work.