A mate was skiing on G3s when the rivots failed. This was only a simple tour - no dramatic stuff involved when it happened. The bindings had only seen 30 days of skiing - anyone had the same problem??
I've heard of that same problem before (but never experienced it). From all reports G3 came good on the warranty so it might be worth chasing that option.
Somebody here said they broke some T9's but went back to the standard binding because they're stronger. Buckwheat maybe??
I had four of five screws holding a G3 riser plate lift straight out of the deck of the ski. Probably more a statement about the ski (Fischer Outbound's) than the shim. Tried gently skiing out from Illawong bridge, only to have ski immediately bend, permanently losing its camber when I put weight down on pivoting binding/shim combo.
Bingo. Fischer won't warrant them for use with cable bindings. Too much force for the lightweight topdeck. Been there. Done that. K
It is/was my fourth season on this setup, so I am not seeking to make a warranty claim... Yet, AlpSport in Sydney recommended it as a reasonable entry to cable bindings and shorter skis. The front screw on the binding deck/plate pulled immediately in 2002, but the G3 shim then fitted beneath served for 40 days of backcountry until Saturday. BTW it took 2 hours to trudge from Illawong to Guthega; apologies to all skiiers for the elephant prints!
Hehe Bucko will be horrified (I'm still crook as hell Bucko....)!!!! Very unusual to break the steel variants...the titantium variants don't seem to be as strong though... Have the retailer have a look at them...depending on what broke and how they may be warrantable... jdm
seak I reckon you may have some recourse with alpsports if they recommended and fitted against manufacturer's recommendations. Expensive weekend by the sound of it.
When you make several thousand metal items there will be some failures unless there is a lot of x-ray testing and so on. How many seasons? A couple with good use is good for any product with moving parts and repetative loads in the tonnes. The titanium failures are due to the un-predictable behaviour of the material. Some items off the same production line will never (almost) fail. Others will fail while being installed. Which also is a reason G3 now do not have titanium in the T9. As for the Fischers, ya gets wots yas payrs for. and Fischer are very clear in their brochure and their website that none of the Whatever Bound is suitable for a cable binding. It is a touring ski for prepared and semi prepared trails. It is not a telemark ski.
yep, broken 2 lots of T9's - one time the toe bar snapped, the other time a rivet failed. Both pairs had seen a reasonable amount of skiing. The Guide Hut in Fernie replaced one pair without question, and Bruce replaced the other one without question - even though I hadn't bought them from him. Can't knock that kind of service! Legend, with 30 days of skiing, your mate should be able to get a warranty no probs. I'd imagine, anyway. Course you're crook, jdm, you do nothign but stand about and watch grommets race. Get back on your teles and get some exercise man!
The rivots holding the toe bar pulled out. Will be taking them back on the w/e - here's hoping we get a replacement. Will let you out there know what happens next week.
Luckily Mr Marx I have 1 of the last of the old with tite. And one of the new without (maybe that is why it is still in the box?), but that is another story.
I have a pair of titanium T9's also Mr Free. Currently they are assigned to the spares box as I have Bomber plates on both my sets of skis. Easy changeover with the K2 inserts though
I now have 2 sets of Bombers. A second set arrived with the Doneks. I dunno why. So there are 3 Bomber skis with 2 bindings to shuffle aound on then and a pair of lightweight skis with the G3 tites on them. And there is a pair of Linkens somewhere on something...
