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Discussion in 'Mt Buller' started by djam, Oct 3, 2018.
Fortunately I am a perfect driver and as such in a position to judge others.
How many cars accidents you up to now?
is that the "permit holders" oath they have to adhere to in winter
I've got M+S tyres on my car and I reckon they're rubbish.....slip slip slided all over the roads last year. Whilst I'm sure the tyre has to have certain attributes to be able to get this designation, from a performance perspective I don't think it really adds much value.
Yeah you need to warm them up a bit more, just chuck in in high ratio in 4X4, stomp the go pedal and just light em up buddy.
Work on regrading the toboggan run has started. It will have 3 grades of difficulty
and increased capacity. As well as supporting a bike track next summer.
For those interested a couple a few pics from the easter weekend. The poles for Bourke Street express are not in yet. Appears to be only 3 main poles for the entire length.
Also if I am not mistaken (from the view at summit) it appears B-TAG gates have been installed at Howqua...they weren't there last year from memory...?
Yes good spotting, there haven't been gates at Howqua previously.
The new portable snow maker is up, output on the tennis court, the old unit making
snow near Twin Towers and the towers on BB1 are going up.
Also the second rope tow has been removed and footings etc have been poured for the new button lift.
Is this for the Canyon rope tow? Good news if it is.
Yes top Canyon tow. I'll post a couple of pics in a minute.
So I'm not as up to date with Buller stuff as I used to be... are both Canyon tows being replaced with a single platter?
No just the top one, it was steeper than the lower one and harder to hang on to especially for beginners/kids and when the rope was icy.
The lower one you can generally get enough momentum from the track to grab on halfway up, plus it's less steep so it's not as difficult.
One older rope tow customer make that owner decided it was too hard to use, so they fixed it.
You might see the other one disappear before too long.
Can this customer get the owner to ride the Grimus chair on Saturdays morning (around 11am?)
I think everything is approved for a new fixed gripd quad, they just need to allocate the cashola.
-2, bit of snow about an hour ago, not much action now. Turned to snow around Horse Hill, and was settling by the village.
Photo dump for the lift geeks. They’re hoping to have a tower up today.
Progress down Corn Hill Road. The Helipad is quite elevated.
I like the extra parking here - clearly Buller needs it.
But I hope this area is tidied up post works? I imagine it Will look better once bitumen is laid.
But I’m surprised just how wide the gravel ‘road’ is in the second pic. A bit of a bomb site at present!! But too early to judge??
Some issues with permits will have some of the works completed after the season. Most
will be done pre winter though, including the bitumen on the road.
All the towers should be up by Wednesday, before the big rain later in the week.
Thankyou @mx_boarder , appreciate all the photos. Keep all the updates happening !
Sadly back home now and probably not up again before winter. Hopefully Buller keeps posting updates via social.
Towers 1, 2 and just now 4 up, finished in the dark.
Yep - lots of work still to go down there. Looks as though CHR will continue through the area as a 'road width', with the heli pad a distinct raised platform. I assume the sealing of the road will end right there.
How long is the new chair? it must be close to the shortest detectable in the world.
Yeah it would have to be close.
It's about the same as BB1, around 560m
had @mx_boarder leave the power on after last weekend so the VS cam will now be live until the end of the season. He did pick up that the outer casing of the Cat5 cable has incurred a bit of damage from the sliding door running into it so I'll take a look at that when I do the pre season stock up.
Is there a list of how long the lifts at Buller are? I can't find one anywhere.
Some great stats there CM.
Very interesting to note that:
- some of the oldest lifts trundle along at only 2 m/s while the new detachables whiz at 5 m/s (that's before we consider the extra (6) seats.
- total length of lifts is only 5km - not really that much is it?
- while its great to see all the new lifts over the last say 10-12 years - there's about 7-8 key chairlifts built from around 1980-93 that will probably be on BSLs radar for replacement over the next 10-15 years. (Who'd want to run a resort anyway!!)
Howqua/Grimus are next on the job sheet from memory?
At 33 years old, Horse Hill (or whatever it has been renamed this year) is also getting a bit long in the tooth by ski lift standards. But that would be very, very expensive to replace.
Although that's way short of the 1961 vintage Mt Perisher double chairlift that has run an average of 100 days annually for the past 58 years.
Here is what I've found over the years and added to the google map. Note, this shows the lengths of the lines drawn, which has BB1 as 515 metres. I'll have to check that against another source.
The total lift lengths at Buller far exceeds the 5km shown on the skiresort.info site. I think that is a total on the lifts they have listed with a length shown, which only some.
oh, and here is another, for Buller properties..
Thanks djam and Carveman, both those links are interesting, but I was hoping for a complete and precise list of lift lengths. Let me know if anyone can fill in the gaps on this list of the 65 lifts that have operated at Buller (modern lifts are towards the bottom). https://www.australianmountains.com/australianskilifts#9
Yes I feel that’s why HH was limited to a couple of weekends of mtn biking this summer, that said the Kosi express is a similar vintage and runs year round.
Understand Bogong, AFAIK there is not much in the public domain.
HH is just not viable for biking, there are just not enough numbers to cover the running costs, including staff and wear on the lift. At least that's what is what is coming down the line from the lift co.
BTW the new Platter is a not a Doppelmayr lift, seems I'd been mislead, the other site is correct, it is a SunKid lift, Comfort Star I expect, which looks a bit like a platter.
Would be expensive to update for sure, especially with the mid load station at the bottom of the Nth side, which would need to exist always, it’s a great area when low level snow and it’s proximity in the valley and low offload station means it can run on high wind days.
Thanks, the site Carveman linked to said it was Sunkid (they make lots of carpets and platters, but not proper ski lifts). I was a bit surprised to see it shown as a Sunkid because Buller has a very strong brand loyalty to Doppelmayr, whereas other resorts are more likely to shop around.
I'll change the entry to show it's a Dopp.
I've been looking at djam's excellent annotated map. Being the pedant I am, I noticed a minor error. Boggy Creek was definitely built by McCallum Engineering, not Doppelmayr.
It has been retrofitted with Doppelmayr tees and god knows what else components over the years including an electric conversion, maybe it’s only the towers that are original.
At Hinterglemm, Austria. Apparently there was some complaints that customers had to take their skis off and walk across a road to access other lifts, so they spent a few lazy million euro for a 236 metre long gondola. ( I must admit that we did find it quite handy)
Capacity: 2400 Pers./h
Altitude valley: 1073 m
Altitude mountain: 1100 m
Length: 236 m
Operating hours: 08.00 am - 04.45 pm
Yeah that's gotta be the biggest $ per metre ski lift! Lifts like Peak2Peak cost a bomb but at least they have some length!