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Buller 2020 Season to start on..

Discussion in 'Mt Buller' started by djam, Apr 21, 2020.

  1. djam

    djam One of Us

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    okay, let's take a guess at the opening date for Buller for the 2020 season.

    The state is doing really well at reining in the virus, if we keep up the
    good work we should get to zero cases before much longer. If we do,
    then we should be able to get back to near normal, at least locally.

    I'm in at July 1st.
     
  2. Alexg1687

    Alexg1687 Hard Yards

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    Saturday 1 August 2020
     
  3. Onlybackscratchers

    Onlybackscratchers One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Friday 5th June*

    I wouldn't have said that 2 weeks ago, no chance. Now maybe, with big fingers crossed.

    *If they decide to turn on the slushie machines.
     
  4. Gototakahashi

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    Things are turning good. Cases are down. There’s talk of easing restrictions. I reckon June could still be in with a good chance.
    And on there plus side - There is no international travel so less foreigners tobogganning on Bourke Street, saving even more lives!
     
  5. Madski

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    First weekend after the school holidays. My feelings though lodges won’t be able to open.

    So just apartment owners and day trippers.
     
  6. Cam Slee

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    Buller and every other resort in Australia will not open this year.
     
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    lets try and be positive
     
  8. DbSki

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    Your ban
     
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  9. CarveMan

    CarveMan Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    I’m going to save this one for posterity.
     
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  10. blueandwhite

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    I'll take a guess at June 29th.
     
  11. ski2much

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    Who knows - but if we don't get a second wave like Singapore ... 27th June.

    My theory...
    Must have a prepaid lift ticket or overnight accomodation to enter the resort, and lift tickets limited. No snow-play.
    No rentals of helmets or clothing.
    Perhaps no childcare and only limited group lessons... bunyips?
    Only take away food - no bars/nightclubs etc. (Which I believe means no snow play and lift tickets only - not enough space to accomodate people with the social distancing requirements)
    No sharing of rooms in lodges with a non family unit. One family per “taxi”.
    .... and I wont even mention the govts bluetooth tracking app.
     
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    Early July for me.

    Hotel guests and private apartment owners only - no day trippers and no shuttle buses.

    Buller are hiring lifties for the coming season.
     
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  13. Gototakahashi

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    Can people explain why they think overnight guests would be allowed but not day trippers?
    You do realise the virus would be more contagious inside a cramped lodge / hotel than on the lifts?
     
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  14. CarveMan

    CarveMan Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    Agree - in terms of management I think day trippers are less complex.
     
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    This would suck massively for a lot of people - me included.
     
  16. DbSki

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    The lift company is a business not the Govt so I cant see them forgoing the income from day trip sales.
     
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  17. CarveMan

    CarveMan Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    Apart from a day tripper not being able to head inside to their accommodation in poor weather, why would they be disadvantaged? Get out of car, get on horse hill chair, go skiing, get back on horse hill chair, get back in car, go home.

    It's the club lodges that are the tricky proposition.
     
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    I cant pick a date, but some thoughts:
    Slight delay until there is enough snow to open horse hill, this solves the problem of day trippers on the buses.
    Overnight accom not a problem for self contained, just restrict taxis to families only.

    My biggest uncertainty is regarding lodges, given their very nature is communal.

    Thoughts on a cut back on resort specific services? Less grooming, no park etc?
     
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  19. currawong

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    I'm also a bit concerned about the ability of commercial lodges and flats to guarantee the required level of cleaning. when you arrive at your accommodation, what do you know about who was there before and how thoroughly it was cleaned?

    In many commercial premises, not just in the snow, doona covers are not washed between guests. IMHO that would have to change, but that's a big additional cost and extends changeover time.
    I'm probably mainly concerned about the dilligence of many cleaners who are really just kids who are there to party and ski/board.
     
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  20. skimax

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    Any lodge is difficult period , poor ventilation , many people , if the industry wants to get going I'd think day trippers , empty spaces on chairs , and privately owned places only as a first up . Self contained next but as said cleaning requirements pretty difficult to deal with if required .
     
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  21. Alexg1687

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    Wishful thinking, but would buller allow you to defer your season pass to 2021 if you’re a member of a lodge that can’t open, even if the mountain is technically open?
     
  22. CarveMan

    CarveMan Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    I think they would be mad not to. Far preferable for them to keep the cash than to refund.
     
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  23. Alexg1687

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    I suppose my question is whether lodge members would get a deferral, even though the mountain is operating, lifts open etc
     
  24. CarveMan

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    I'm not sure how BSL view it but surely a pass deferral buys them lots of goodwill and doesn't really cost them anything.
     
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  25. LiveToSki

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    I guess it depends on their outlay this year. If they only have 'small' expenses because of the lack of skiing or whatever then they may be able to justify it. But I would think that if it costs them as much to run this season as it does every other year, then it would be harder for them to just defer 1/2 their cash (and cash flow).
     
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    Because Buller makes far more money from overnight stayers due to the length of stay and to more venues so if one segment needed to be dropped it MIGHT be day trippers even though overnight stayers are more problematic in terms of covid19. Overnight stayers are likely to stay for longer than 24 hours and spend more money on gear / gear hire, lifts, accom, groceries, taxi's, and at night dinner out and drinks if allowed to do so. It's all about money IF it's feasible and Victoria would basicly need to be downgraded to level 2 restrictions for snow mountains to operate from what I can tell. It was mentioned to me by the owners at the hotel we normally stay at. Not saying it will happen, but it is one of the MANY options on the table atm and let's be honest - NOBODY knows what is likely to happen this season at this stage.
     
  27. CarveMan

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    Yup the irony is that is all that we actually do know right now!
     
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  28. DbSki

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    If Australia / Victoria continue the data pattern and graph for covid19 then I am pretty confident we will be skiing at Buller in July 2019 if our reported new daily cases stays extremely low - probably not June 2020 though. If we have a surge in cases and even a moderate 2nd wave due to easing restrictions then it's likely to be game over for the season in my opinion.
     
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  30. CarveMan

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    Cough
     
  31. djam

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    be careful where you cough
     
  32. CarveMan

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    Near cough or far cough?
     
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    With everyone lining up there could also be a "far queue" and a "far queue too"
     
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    By the rule of "nearest to the pin is in", I think this one gets the win?
     
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    He's a country member...
     
  36. CarveMan

    CarveMan Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    Oh I remember.
     
  37. travelislife

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    If people didn't ride up on people ski's/boards everyone should be 1.5m apart anyway! In the length direction anyways, not sure how you control the width side of it...
     
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    Simple. Everyone in queues carries their skis on their shoulders. Every now and then, everyone in the queue must do a 360. Anyone who gets knocked out gets trampled on.
     
  39. stratussed

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    Surely Buller and all would be working to opening by Day 1 of VIC School Holidays....

    Be costly to miss that milestone.
     
  40. Jellybeans

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    They have announced that they are opening on the Monday before.