1. SPECIAL NOTE TO NEW WEATHERZONE FOLK

    If you recently registered and have not received a confirmation email - please check your 'Spam or Junk' folders. Especially if your email is Hotmail. More help with confirmation issues

    NOTE: This notice may be closed.

    Dismiss Notice
  2. There's more to this forum than meets the eye!

    We have a vibrant community here conversing about all sorts of non-snow topics such as music, sport, politics and technology. Simply register to reveal all our Après topics or continue browsing and reading as a guest.

    NOTE: This notice may be closed.

    Dismiss Notice

Buller Crew Banter Thread

Discussion in 'Mt Buller' started by CarveMan, Oct 5, 2009.

  1. jgm

    jgm Addicted

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2000
    Messages:
    755
    Likes Received:
    147
    Location:
    Geelong, Vic, Australia
    IIRC there was a fatality a few years back with someone overtaking near sawmill being in a head on through being caught on the wrong side of the road.
     
    nezumi likes this.
  2. LiveToSki

    LiveToSki One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2001
    Messages:
    1,705
    Likes Received:
    383
    Location:
    Melbourne, Vic
    Please don't let facts get in the way of a rant...
     
    nezumi likes this.
  3. Vermillion

    Vermillion Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2005
    Messages:
    70,584
    Likes Received:
    24,720
    Location:
    Cranhole, Melbourne, VIC
    I wonder how many times they've set up the radar there vs under the powerlines?
     
    mx_boarder likes this.
  4. blueandwhite

    blueandwhite One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

    Joined:
    May 26, 2016
    Messages:
    330
    Likes Received:
    920
    Location:
    TQY
    Last year I popped into Mansfield one day and they had the chopper out doing speed detection. I always thought it was an urban myth they perpetuated to make you slow down but blow me down with a feather it was real. They must be literally coining it in to justify the cost-benefit of hovering a chopper up there while the ground crew pull people over. I find it very hard to believe they're not catching enough folk just by sitting by the road in the regular cop cars to be honest!
     
  5. Jarryboy

    Jarryboy Early Days

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2019
    Messages:
    63
    Likes Received:
    64
    I’ve also wondered that, surely it would cost up around $1000 an hour to cover fuel and wages.
     
  6. wolly

    wolly One of Us

    Joined:
    May 29, 2002
    Messages:
    1,414
    Likes Received:
    376
    Location:
    near the snow
     
  7. wolly

    wolly One of Us

    Joined:
    May 29, 2002
    Messages:
    1,414
    Likes Received:
    376
    Location:
    near the snow
    Lots morecthan $1000 per hour
     
  8. blueandwhite

    blueandwhite One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

    Joined:
    May 26, 2016
    Messages:
    330
    Likes Received:
    920
    Location:
    TQY
    Well worth the money. My three year old thought it was amazing seeing the police chopper land next to the road. Priceless :D
     
  9. DbSki

    DbSki Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2012
    Messages:
    20,205
    Likes Received:
    6,301
    Location:
    Melb
    Lucky they still haven't figured out of they put a speed cam on one my my pole systems (like they do in the UK) and have a speed camera that can track speeds form a kilometre while hidden and plain sight.

    15k a unit and they could run it 7 days a week and recover the cost of it in one weekend.
     
  10. CarveMan

    CarveMan Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

    Joined:
    May 12, 2000
    Messages:
    74,769
    Likes Received:
    37,865
    Location:
    Les Hautes Montagnes
    Would it just need accurately measured lines on the road and then time the car?
     
  11. DbSki

    DbSki Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2012
    Messages:
    20,205
    Likes Received:
    6,301
    Location:
    Melb
    No just by radar on a pan tilt unit they can aim at cars like a camera.
    All it needs is elevation entered into the unit to compensate for that.
    UK already uses them.
     
  12. mx_boarder

    mx_boarder Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

    Joined:
    May 31, 2005
    Messages:
    24,200
    Likes Received:
    2,159
    Location:
    Bolivian drug villa.
    Wonderful. Something else to look forward to.
     
    Vermillion likes this.
  13. DbSki

    DbSki Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2012
    Messages:
    20,205
    Likes Received:
    6,301
    Location:
    Melb
    Here is an example of a DSLR on it with 300MM zoom

    No zoom at night, the crane is 1.2 Km away



    Day time zoomed in

     
    Whiteman likes this.
  14. DbSki

    DbSki Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2012
    Messages:
    20,205
    Likes Received:
    6,301
    Location:
    Melb
    Not anytime soon.
    VicPol will take about 20 years to catch up the today technology for this sort of purpose, if ever.
    Once asked the guy who runs the VicPol workshops if they would ever consider it and he barked madly "Wouldn't have one of those on a Police vehicle in a fit"
     
  15. wolly

    wolly One of Us

    Joined:
    May 29, 2002
    Messages:
    1,414
    Likes Received:
    376
    Location:
    near the snow
    Thats what they have in Merrijig!
     
  16. djam

    djam One of Us

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2009
    Messages:
    1,195
    Likes Received:
    311
    All they need do is use the GPS in your phone, the fine could be $1, per minute and they
    would make a killing as it would get every driver, every time they speed.

    BTW the 60km/h speeds signs went up in Yark last week, you can't miss them,
    the signs are about 6' high (whoops, 1.828m)
     
    Vermillion and skiflat like this.
  17. Vermillion

    Vermillion Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2005
    Messages:
    70,584
    Likes Received:
    24,720
    Location:
    Cranhole, Melbourne, VIC
    You would be able to get out of so many speeding fines with the camera 1km away. With PPs pic above, even the slightest shake, tilt or movement in the camera is going to change the field of view. If you're going to point and shoot a car from 1km away (and a car is a pretty small target from 1km) then you better be pretty bloody accurate and not miss slightly and hit a sign, a post or something else that might reflect an inaccurate reading back at you. Plenty of people get out of tickets for this at the moment, unless they invent less shaky police officer hands, it'll be difficult to collect too many fines.
     
  18. Claude Cat

    Claude Cat On my bike Moderator Ski Pass: Platinum

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2001
    Messages:
    111,145
    Likes Received:
    48,085
    Location:
    Canterbury, Vic
    more idiots driving to and from the snow.

    https://www.police.vic.gov.au/go-slow-snow

    Highway patrol officers from Mansfield have intercepted two speeding cars this morning within 45 minutes.

    A Honda Accord travelling to the snow fields was allegedly caught travelling 160km/h in a 100km/h zone on Mount Buller Road a 10.06am.

    The driver, a 22-year-old Wollert man with one passenger on-board, had his car impounded at a cost of $1625.

    Forty-five minutes later officers detected a Renault Megane on Mount Buller Road allegedly driving at 205km/h in a 100km/h zone with five people on-board.

    The snow-bound car, driven by a 24-year-old Doncaster man, was impounded for the sum of $1625.

    Both drivers will be summonsed to appear before Mansfield Magistrates’ Court at a later date.

    A further three drivers will be fronting court after having their cars impounded in the Mansfield area over the past week.

    Mansfield highway patrol officers were disappointed drivers were disregarding the road rules.

    They want to remind drivers to slow down so they can arrive safely at their destination.
     
  19. willsnow

    willsnow Addicted

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2017
    Messages:
    130
    Likes Received:
    148
    Driving 160km/h or 205 km/h to ski Bourke Street ROFLROFL
     
    dr80 and skiflat like this.
  20. CarveMan

    CarveMan Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

    Joined:
    May 12, 2000
    Messages:
    74,769
    Likes Received:
    37,865
    Location:
    Les Hautes Montagnes
    This.

    Dicks.
     
    mx_boarder and Claude Cat like this.
  21. DbSki

    DbSki Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2012
    Messages:
    20,205
    Likes Received:
    6,301
    Location:
    Melb
    The reason that the image above taken with 300 mm zoom lens of the top of the pole is sharp from 1.2 Km away is not due to any stabilisation.
    It is the inherent stability of the pole that is far more stable then hand held camera simply due to the fact if its height.
    Look at a tall tree in the wind, the frequency of the swaying so slow that it is well within the shutter speed of any camera even at night.

    As for aiming the camera accurately a gyro stablised PT axis would make it easier although the linesmen that use them to inspect cross arms and insulators have no problem at distances where they cant get access to poles on a property and can inspect it from the boundary.

    My camera mount units are fully proportional control with dual speed axis.
    Normal joystick movement provides fine control at very low speed and pushing on the joystick top doubles the speed of the axis movement so you can move to a target quickly and then use fine control to aim it accurately on the target.



    Some simple machine vision would add the ability of the cam mount to track a moving target that would allow them to see what the occupants of the car are doing, like using a mobile phone.

    And as mentioned UK already does it.

    [​IMG]
     
  22. Claude Cat

    Claude Cat On my bike Moderator Ski Pass: Platinum

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2001
    Messages:
    111,145
    Likes Received:
    48,085
    Location:
    Canterbury, Vic
  23. wolly

    wolly One of Us

    Joined:
    May 29, 2002
    Messages:
    1,414
    Likes Received:
    376
    Location:
    near the snow
  24. LiveToSki

    LiveToSki One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2001
    Messages:
    1,705
    Likes Received:
    383
    Location:
    Melbourne, Vic
    What are these blokes doing?? Salting?
     
  25. JuLe

    JuLe Early Days

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2019
    Messages:
    24
    Likes Received:
    24
    Location:
    Melbourne
    Maybe everyone could shed some light on this question??

    The driver of the car pictured driving up the mountain Saturday morning is:

    A) Deluded about the turning radius of their vehicle.
    B) Unaware of Australian road rules.
    C) Intent on having a head-on collision with the “Snow Play Express”.
    D) All of the above.



    This happened all the way from Mirimbah!!
     
  26. DbSki

    DbSki Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2012
    Messages:
    20,205
    Likes Received:
    6,301
    Location:
    Melb
    The forth one is a fail for sure.
     
    1bull7 and JuLe like this.
  27. Alexg1687

    Alexg1687 Early Days

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2018
    Messages:
    22
    Likes Received:
    19
    I’m torn on this question. I know someone who got two demerit points back in 2010 for using both sides driving down the mountain. Not going quickly. Just smoothly.

    To be honest I do it sometimes, only on corners with full visibility, and never needing to move completely over the other side.

    I think the problem with that Lexus is that there doesn’t seem to be any real purpose. Doesn’t appear to be anywhere near the apex, which means the line isn’t straighter, so no advantage in terms of grip or smooth ride for passengers. And might even have done it on blind corners which isn’t very smart. But would need more photos to confirm.

    Unless I’ve completely misread this and they are literally just driving on the wrong side of the road
     
  28. CarveMan

    CarveMan Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

    Joined:
    May 12, 2000
    Messages:
    74,769
    Likes Received:
    37,865
    Location:
    Les Hautes Montagnes
    Was he just meandering over the road, or taking the 'racing line'?

    The racing line is IMO completely fine if you have visibility, it's much smoother and less stress on the car as it widens out the radius of the corners.
     
    1bull7, Majikthise, TheFake and 5 others like this.
  29. luvthabumps

    luvthabumps A Local Ski Pass: Gold

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2006
    Messages:
    8,628
    Likes Received:
    3,299
    Location:
    Back in MEL ( with annual trips to the 604 )
    This, every day of the week - we had a great run down the hill Monday arvo around 1.00 :D
     
    The Plowking, CarveMan and mx_boarder like this.
  30. JuLe

    JuLe Early Days

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2019
    Messages:
    24
    Likes Received:
    24
    Location:
    Melbourne
    More meandering than anything else I’d say. Road was dry, never hit 60km/h, one person in the passenger seat, even did it on the corners with less visibility towards the top. No need to be driving like that IMO.
     
  31. JuLe

    JuLe Early Days

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2019
    Messages:
    24
    Likes Received:
    24
    Location:
    Melbourne
    More meandering than anything else. Not expecting him to be Lewis Hamilton but would be the strangest racing line I’ve ever seen.
     
  32. BilbyBill

    BilbyBill One of Us

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2001
    Messages:
    891
    Likes Received:
    396
    Location:
    Tawonga, Australia.
    If your car is stressed by driving on the correct side of the road, you are probably driving too fast.
     
  33. The Plowking

    The Plowking Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2000
    Messages:
    17,161
    Likes Received:
    9,539
    Location:
    Bonbeach, Vic
    Hmmm. Naaah.
    What CM and LTB said.
    Though this doesn't appear a good example of it.
     
    mx_boarder likes this.
  34. mx_boarder

    mx_boarder Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

    Joined:
    May 31, 2005
    Messages:
    24,200
    Likes Received:
    2,159
    Location:
    Bolivian drug villa.
    It’s a substantially more enjoyable, consistent, comfortable drive for all onboard when you (safely) knock a few of the sharp edges off.

    Is it mandatory? No. Drive your own drive.
     
  35. skiflat

    skiflat Old n' Crusty

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 1999
    Messages:
    36,901
    Likes Received:
    203
    Ummmmm
     
  36. dibl0c

    dibl0c A man without wasta is not a man! Ski Pass: Gold

    Joined:
    May 22, 2007
    Messages:
    14,748
    Likes Received:
    20,837
    Location:
    #shitadelaide or #brisbogan ... take your pick.
    Oh, I see that the SDS has arrived in here. :D
     
  37. DbSki

    DbSki Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2012
    Messages:
    20,205
    Likes Received:
    6,301
    Location:
    Melb
    The forth one I mentioned before.
    I suspect that right hand he is exiting is a cutting you cant see around like most tight right handers up Buller rd and if he entered it on the wrong side then its a fail for sure, lucky no Bus is coming around it.
    The rest is fine if the road is clear.
     
    djam and The Plowking like this.