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Suggestion Bushfire Donation Suggestions

Discussion in 'Snow Talk' started by teckel, Jan 6, 2020.

  1. teckel

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    I just read on the Canberra Times website about a centre on Kangaroo Island that are doing wildlife rescue and rehabilitation. They have a GoFundme page so I'm considering donating to them.
     
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    Within the ski community context donation targets could complement mainstream donation targets as well as beneficiaries of state and federal government assistance.

    If the correct beneficiary is chosen, businesses and private individuals can also be positioned to make tax-deductible donations - not a trivial factor as it can significantly increase the scale of donations.

    The KHA comes to mind, as does wildlife rescue groups, or specific volunteer firefighter groups in a specific more remote area linked to the ski-fields.

    Alternately, I reckon an even better idea is to start a more long term ski industry charitable trust which is a separate corporate entity and which has seed capital and can make discretionary ad hoc donations across time - it does not cost that much to set up a trust, and there are enough sensible people around who would be willing to act as trustees and arrange the administration pro bono. I get the sense that this won’t be the last time this type of situation comes around....

    I’d be willing to assist - as I’m sure would many others here.
     
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    Kletterer Thredbo Doughnut Tragic Moderator

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    A thread dedicated to rebuilding lives and losses affect by the Bushfires.
     
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    taken from Selwyn thread
     
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    If you want to help a really hands on, scientific NGO that is doing amazing work with koalas closer to Sydney, have a look at Science for Wildlife here http://scienceforwildlife.org/. They have been studying emerging koala colonies in the Greater Blue Mountains area for the last few years, and what was supposed to be a really good news story has now turned into a tragedy. However, they did get in and rescue 12 koalas from Kanangra Boyd before the firefront (full story on website) to try to save this genetically diverse and chlamydia free colony. The main goal for their fundraising now is for dedicated koala hospital/clinics in the greater Sydney area to support these colonies. Disclaimer: I volunteer for this group and was involved in the rescue. Picture of two of the joeys to get attention!
     
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    Kletterer Thredbo Doughnut Tragic Moderator

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    Appologies for a slight uninteded reshuffle of chronology from original posts during the moving process. @teckel your other post jumped to post # 1 here.
     
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    Hearing about huge sums being donated to the RFS like over 30 million, no mention of the CFA though.....
     
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  12. Chaeron

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    @Richard can we make this thread a Sticky for the meantime if at all possible.
     
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    and rfs are saying to donate elsewhere
     
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    Slalom A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    How about local Chambers of Commerce arranging vouchers for local businesses. Donations can be used for vouchers for volunteers and other visitors to a town so local shops can get some revenue. Can't quite nail the specifics, but you all know what I mean? Get the donation money flowing within the local community.
     
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    Kletterer Thredbo Doughnut Tragic Moderator

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    Done.
     
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  17. Chaeron

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    Thx @Kletterer !
     
  18. teckel

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    Something was organised like that after Black Saturday. Can't remember who organised it - Vinnies or Salvos or Red Cross. I asked them why they couldn't redeem their vouchers at my shop in the affected area while they could go to Melbourne and redeem them at Myer, K-Mart, Target etc etc. They replied because I was a camping shop and they weren't intended to be used for recreational pursuits. But some people need camping goods for survival. And I sell a lot of clothing which fits what you want. And you can't control what they spend their money on in those other stores. They ignored me :(
     
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    For all the good the Salvos do they come with strings attached.

    They look after their own, they use resources generated out of specific campaigns to support their existing cost base, network and agenda, and aren’t always very efficient so that the ratio of donation to target recipient share is not necessarily optimised - so if I’m donating via the mainstream I prefer the Red Cross, who are also a purely secular organisation.

    The Salvos are also immensely corporatised and their tie-ups with government and industry aren’t always above question. I have concerns about their politics and their ethics too, but that’s just me.

    I’m less leery about Vinnies...
     
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    Great point. Because there were no tourists, your business would suffer. What did you do wrong??? Hence, "local" vouchers are similar to spread the revenue. We got a State grant after our disaster and most of it went on wages, the rest spent in local businesses (plus the other $mill or so!!!!!)
     
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    Scomo has announced a $2billion support package, including 13 weeks or so of 'relief payments' for small businesses affected (eg: no visitors in a motel, no customers in a takeaway, nobody to hire ski gear). This sounds great as it will ensure money gets spread locally but the devil can be in the detail, as pointed out by Teckel in an earlier post. It's a start and I hope Selwyn gets some of that funding to undertake a comprehensive rebuilding estimate and hopefully, to get started ASAP as the Insurance Companies will likely ensure nothing gets done before the winter snows arrive.
     
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    What did I do wrong? A small business that was not in a pin-up town. But here's a more broad example - a lot of contracts were handed out on the proviso that it employed 'locals'. Their definition of 'local' was 60 km radius - which in our case (Narby & Marysville) included the NE part of Melbourne. Guess how many real locals got jobs from that! LOL
     
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    zac150 A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    As stated previously for those interested in the huts I will be organising a team or two or three to assist with the rebuild of one of the huts. I will try and raise sufficient funds to cover food and essentials for those working on the site.

    This will be done in conjunction with NPWS.
     
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    this in spades

    this was the main cause of scandalous waste after black saturday. everyone was encouraged to donate to a red cross appeal that was guaranteedto only be used for victims of those specific fires. they had more money than they could find ways of spending. so many silly things were funded just to get rid of it, meanwhile farmers (andother small businesses) didn't get a cent.

    i talked to a local farmer who is very intelligent, very involved in a range of community things and very familiar with many cattle farmers across the north east and east gippsland. her advice was blaze aid and just talking to the murray goulburn shop in an effected town and asking them to arrange hay or whatever for someone most in need.
     
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    Blaze Aid is incredible, helped all the farmers here in my community 5 years ago. This is where my money is going.
     
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    Yep
    That’s where mine had already gone.
     
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    I would like to help with this as best I can. I don't have the skill or strength of a skilled labourer but I do follow instructions well :)
     
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    Don't treat the donation stream as a way of cleaning out your unwanted clothes and hard goods.
     
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    yep
    having dealt with them on a professional basis, I wouldn't give a cent to the Salvos
    St Vinnies are better, not perfect
    I've donated to wildlife orgs - no god-bothering issues
     
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    Another suggestion that has been going around is to donate blood if you are able. A lot of regional collection centres for "Lifeblood" (formerly the Aus Red Cross) are unable to operate at the moment, especially those on the NSW north coast.
    I am booked in for a whole blood donation next Wednesday, and will be giving plasma in a few weeks time.
     
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    Thx for the nudge - donating tonight.
     
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    Once I know more (it will be months) I’ll let you know and probably create a thread in arrangements.

    no real skill is required as most of the work will be I helping the skilled labourers and also putting tin on walls only requires a drill. I’m hoping the ski.com community can fully rebuild one hut.
     
  39. Chaeron

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    Although I’m in VIC I’m happy to assist over any weekends - 4x4 Hilux at your service.
     
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    I'm certain that there'll be a lot of Vic huts that require rebuilding too.
     
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    I’ll be in on that too.
     
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    https://hayrunners.com/
    Burrumbuttock Hay Runners is proudly supported by Rotary Club of Sydney. They handle all monetary donations on our behalf as we are not a registered charity.

    This is another good one that crosses the drought/fires situation. They've already been running hay into recent fire affected areas to look after livestock.

    Rotary and Lions in local towns are another option that might suit some people, as they grant money to local projects and charities.

    At the end of the day, either do some good research and donate directly to something you want to support, or donate to an organisation you believe will allocate funds in a manner which you agree with
     
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    The one thing I will add and this may sound callous, but I don’t think we need more “go fund me pages” etc etc.

    there are some awesome charities out there that do great things and their work may be diluted if the funds are widely spread.

    do your research ask questions and give freely. I think there are some awesome suggestions of organised charities on this page, groups I didn’t know about but have been mightily impressed by.

    I’m a bit frustrated by the 1000 suggestions coming up on Facebook etc.
     
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    While charities can provide an organised response, direct giving can have a greater impact without being diluted by charity overheads.
     
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    i don’t disagree with this at all, and I think there is a place for direct giving. Which is kind of exactly what I’m planning of doing with the hut rebuild.

    but there are lots of people suggesting new charitable organisations and direct giving which in a way compete with the existing groups and this worries me.
     
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    But be careful. There was a horrible leery old man here who lost his house & food business, so was living with his girlfriend in Healesville. He pitched a tent on his block and would drive up each day, set up a little camp fire next to his tent with a sign saying "Pancakes on the Spur are back". (He'd never sold pancakes before) The fire tourists flooded in there. The sight of an old man hunched over his fire cooking pancakes to make a living and the tent that he apparently lived in, was too much for many. Oh, he had a box next to his campfire with "Donations" written on it. He collected $170,000 in that box. People probably thought it was for the whole area, not just for this misogynistic creepy old bastard.
     
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    https://www.news.com.au/technology/...ive-coverage/e95adc86c79d7f6f20d099a44a64118d

    January 7, 2020
    Top fundraisers on GoFundMe
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    Stephanie Bedo
    GoFundMe is experiencing an unprecedented amount of donations and new funds to support bushfire relief efforts. Here’s a rolling update on bushfire fundraising totals on GoFundMe since New Year’s Eve —

    • $8M has been raised on GoFundMe to support victims, communities, firefighters and wildlife
    • Over 2,700 new funds have been created to help those impacted in the past 7 days
    • 150,000 donations from around the world have been made to these funds
    • Donations are flooding in from all corners of the globe, with donors from every continent (including Antarctica!)
    Top community funds —

    Top wildlife funds —

    Top celebrities / Influencer top funds —

    Top sport stars / teams —

    Top business funds —

     
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    Let me know - i can probably arrange CWA to make up lunch boxes for the workers (i am also like @Interruptedbyfireworks and would like to help on site :) )
     
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    This disturbs me so much. Per previous comments, 2700 new funds?? And some of these are just individual organisations wanting to be associate with raising money for charitable organisations that already exist! Thermomix for Red Cross or Salvos?? Just donate to those orgs! And suggest others do the same. Reading some of the campaigns as well, it's very vague as to who is deciding where the money goes. Scary
     
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