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Resource Buying Ski/Snowboard gear in Tokyo Season 2019/2020

Discussion in 'Equipment' started by Sandy, Oct 2, 2019.

  1. Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Ok, so about 26,000yen.
     
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    116cm,poles to the basket .. measure from the thumb or little finger when holding pole.?
     
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    Im hoping smaller poles will help me getting forward more, I feel Im too upright.. but I could be barking up the wrong tree.
     
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    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    No, I mean what's the nominal length?

    Generally, you hold the poles upside down, grab the pole directly under the basket, and the elbow makes 90 degree bend.



    Poles are meant for being unnoticeable. I'm not sure what you mean about being too upright.... short poles can make you crouch and screw up your skiing.
    If you think you want to get further forward, just concentrate on pole planting:
    1. At the turn initiation, not in the middle of the turn
    2. If you do (1.), then plant 5-10cm further forward to get yourself more forward.
     
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    I've not seen many powder specific boards that cheap in japan
     
  7. Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    I'll take a look. Might be useful for a number of people.
     
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    Thanks Sandy..
     
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    If you body is "normal" western build body, I think you will get very unhappy with 110 cm poles.
    Do the 90 degree trick and use pole settings, as Sandy says.
    Or get a good instructor - to straighten you a bit out?
     
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    Using the measure tape I come up with 110, the poles I have been using are my sons, hes 180cm.
    Its not only for my technique, I want some new poles..I just feel his are a bit too long at 122cm. Total length.
    I did a lesson in Myoko, but wasnt impressed and expensive. Took us to a pitch I wasnt comfy with, I did get things out of it.
    Apparently I look better than I think..(skiing) wifes a bit biased..:thumbs:
     
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    Will be taking a day in Tokyo to look around these shops. Was hoping to pick up a Capita Birds of a Feather board while there but, how do the prices compare to buying from US stores and forwarding them? Forwarding is another $100 on top of the cost of the board but it seems like brand name boards in Japan are not exactly cheap. Will they be cheaper than buying from yahoo.jp or rakuten and shipping it to accom?

    Also, any stores there that will do heat molding? Planning to get my boots molded because there is a pressure point on the left ankle (Or maybe I'll just do the rice method since it's just the ankle that has an issue).
     
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    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    In order to compare prices to buying from a US store, you'd need to specify what those US prices are like.
    Possibly Fuso Sports could mold your boot
     
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    Previous seasons of that board seem to go for an average of US$360. I live in Singapore, so with forwarding and tax, it adds up to about AU$695. From Yahoo.jp, I'm seeing the cheapest at 50,050 yen, which would be AU$668. Not that big of a difference, so I'm trying to figure out if it's better to buy from the shops there, buy online from a Japanese retailer while I'm in Japan, or forward it from the US
     
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    Hi Sandy, thank you for all the info, very helpful. Hopefully you can help me with the following as well? We are taking our young kids for the first time for a ski trip and need to pick up some gear before catching the Shinkansen. The challenge is that we are only for one night/half day in Tokio and we stay in the Ueno Station area. Do you perhaps know some good shops in that area? As we would prefer not to take the kids for a too long shopping trip. We are looking for goggles, helmets, some clothing for 4 and 7 year old. Thank you.
     
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    Since you have little time, here's a map of Ueno with locations on it.
    https://www.google.com.au/search?sa...ll,[35.70950795132581,139.77589941730457],18]

    Try Murasaki Sports. They should have goggles, and maybe helmets for kids. Start at London Sports for clothes, as you would have more chance of cheaper kids gear. The Ueno shop may have goggles, but I can't remember seeing them there.
    When are you arriving, and which mountain are you going to?
     
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    Karinveldhuis10 First Runs

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    Thanks for your quick reply! We are going in December. And heading to Nozawa onsen. And as I remember from last year, nozawa doesn’t have much shops, so therefor my hopes are set on Tokyo.
     
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    If there is any shop you recommend specific for children gear, please let me know. I might consider to take a cab or metro if I know it is a good place and therefore the only one I have to visit with the kids
     
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    Hi Sandy, I'm going to be in Tokyo from 30 December to 5 Jan and was looking to buy a ski set up to do a bit of touring in Chamonix and inbounds stuff back in Aus.

    What are my chances of picking up a pair of frame bindings either by themselves or as a package with skis?

    Also, I've seen a couple posts in previous versions of this thread that there tend to be a good amount of new years specials. Is it safe to assume that this would be the best day for me to go shopping? Or is the extra traffic not really worth dealing with?

    Thanks!
     
  19. Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    NYD is a double edged sword. Not all shops are open, but there's bargains to be had. Plus there are not many people in the ski shop area on NYD

    Have a look fit frame bindings in ICI main store.
    What sort of skis do you have in mind?
     
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    Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.

    Still need to do my research on skis as im coming from a pair of 2012 or 13 nordica fire arrows which I believe are junior skis. I've been having a look at the blister buyers guide to get an idea but it's hard to judge without really having a frame of reference for things like stiffness.

    Thoughts at the moment are something around 100mm wide and 180cm which probably doesn't narrow things down much . Unsure if I want to go for twin tips or just tail rocker. I thought 100mm would be a good balance for usability in powder and back in Aus, but I'd probably manage if i had to go wider.
     
  21. DustyPrints

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    Sooo any tips on how I should proceed?
     
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    Hi Sandy! Thank you for all the great information! So helpful!!

    Given AUD is so weak and it’s the not snow season now in Aus, I shopped in Melbourne for my Dec Japan trip last month. I bought a pair of Giro Asian fit goggles for about $240 they are not on sale because they are Asian fit:cry: I still bought them cause the guy in the shop spent so much time with me to try every possible ones and I feel bad if I don’t buy any..

    But I couldn’t find any asian fit helmet fits me in Melbourne. If there is, I have a feeling they wouldn’t have any discount.

    Now I just realised that I should just buy goggles in Japan because they will have more Asian fit ones!! I will definitely go to buy a helmet in December. Again thanks to your information!

    Should I also buy books and skis in Tokyo? Im happy with previous seasons style hopefully I can find some good bargain for beginner skis!
     
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    You should have no trouble finding beginner's skis in Tokyo.
    Boots you will probably find, but depends on size and what's available. What size?
     
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    I will have half day to shop in Tokyo to the shops you mentioned above. I have $1k aud budget for beginner boots, skis, binders, poles and a ski bag. Would that be too tight? I guess I can change a couple of accommodation to make more budget for my gears if I need to but also don’t want to spend too much at beginner level.. I thought some morning lessons will be more worthwhile the money.

    Thank you Sandy!
     
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    We spent 45,000 yen on beginner boots and ski set for my wife.
    Easily doable.
     
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    That’s awesome Donzah! May I ask which shop/brand did you get for those? I’ll be there on the 2nd of Dec so it’s going to be the start of the season rather than end of the season. Don’t know if that will make any differences.

    Thank you!:)
     
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    London sports. K2. Skis and Gen Factory boots ( they fit the best)
     
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    Agreed.
     
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    Yep, always look in London Sports first.
    I'll be back in Tokyo soon, so I can have a looks at what ski and boots they have. (currently in Finland)
    2 weeks ago, they had just brought out more skis and boots. @Snowwww when did you say you're in Tokyo?
     
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    I will arrive Tokyo late at night on 1/12, have 2/12 for shopping. And then I will be going to Hokkaido on 3/12.

    Thank you!!
     
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    Thank you for all your helpful information Sandy. I am going to Shiga with my wife next month, she is not skiiing but will need to buy snow clothing - shoes, pants, jacket, gloves and goggles. What would be a starting figure for these items at a store like London Sports? Just looking at the low-end choices. Thanks in advance.
     
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    I'll have a look this weekend, when I'm back in Japan.
     
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    @Donzah
    London Sports has women's sets:
    "2" sets (Board and bindings). 12,800yen, but right now, 8960yen (30% sale)
    "3" sets (Board, bindings & boots). 19,800yen, but right now, 13,860yen (30% sale)
    Elan Prism, Elan Chicas, Elan Nail-Pol, Morrow Kava
     
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    London Sports main street store & laneway store:
    If not skiing, goggles from about 3000yen, gloves 3000-4000yen, pants & jackets from 6000yen. For shoes, I'd go for Adidas Terrex shoes ("mid" ankle high) as they have great non slip soles, and can be used elsewhere.
     
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    There's various boots at 23.5 in London Sports.
     
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    There's ski boots in London Sports in smaller sizes. If possible, I'd go for the Salomon XPRO 70W, which is a women's boot, has adjustable calf and heat moldable liner.
     
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    If you can get exactly what you want online, then do that.
     
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    Thanks Sandy.

    My current boots are Salomon X Max 90 and have never been right for me (despite spending hours getting them fitted, heat moulded etc) :( I do think the 90 might be a bit too much flex for a short arse like me though :D

    I’ve got a few hours pencilled in for my Tokyo part of trip to hit the ski shops. They have discount lift vouchers there too don’t they? (I’m going to Hakuba and Shiga Kogen).
     
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    Just saw you’re in Finland at the moment. You certainly get around! (sorry for the off topic).
     
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    The X Max 90 are relatively stiff if you're short. And were they the 90 or 90w?
    check the coupons thread in the Japan forum. You can buy discount coupons at Sports Paradise (basement Winter +) in the Tokyo Ski shop area.

    Back in Japan now
     
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    Alright sure! One last question though, do shops there accept foreign credit/debit cards? Ideally I don't want to carry so much cash around with me
     
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    More of them do these days, but some places (particularly out of the way places, including some shops & restaurants in snow resorts) don't take cards. Cash is still king in Japan.
     
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    Thanks so much Sandy, that has given me a good idea of what to expect. We’re in Bangkok now, and there is a shop called Decathlon that sells cheap ski gear. I’m not sure about the quality though, it seems too cheap to be any good.
     
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    Decathlon is great gear.
     
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    If it's genuine, as a lot of gear in Thailand is not...
     
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    Decathlon is great quality, affordable ski gear. My boys are dressed mostly in it. Mostly French designed and made in China and Vietnam. Definitely take a look.
     
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    They have super stores. Like a big version of sport depo.
    Biggest sporting retail company in the world.
    *they have a couple of stores in sydney
     
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    Boots are 90W but yes, not right for me. Of course I didn’t know that when I bought them.

    By the way, the skis you got me a few years ago are still going strong (not enough use to wear them out!) and I’ll be bringing them on my upcoming trip. Very tempted to buy the Nordicas I hired last trip but can’t really justify it for the amount I ski. Will still have a look in the ski section in the Tokyo shops though :)
     
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    Thank you for looking for me Sandy!!

    How funny only just realised Decathlon has their shops in Australia today. They have some really good backpacks for skiing for only $35-$45. I also saw they are selling the skis in the photos for $399 but they don’t have the right size for me.
     

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    Decathlon is good. They have stores in Singapore as well and their prices are almost a steal for how good their products are. I'm using their snowboard socks and have never had an issue with cold feet. Also have 4 pairs of their base layers and a hat. All worked fine for me. At one point they sold $70 beginner snowboards but they stopped bringing them in as there's no market for them here