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Camping for the 2019 season

Discussion in 'Snow Talk' started by Sage Oya, Nov 15, 2018.

  1. Jacko4650

    Jacko4650 One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Hope the master town plan, now taken over by the NSW Government, takes into account the extremes that can occur in the Jindy area? Jees!
     
  2. Jacko4650

    Jacko4650 One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    My idea of camping in a crowded National Park area:- Third world issues like clearing snow off solar panels . . . . .
     

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  3. skull

    skull One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    we camped pretty much every weekend last season I can't say the camp ground signs being marked as full were ever up. Usually got in early Friday evening and nearly always got our preferred spot. Saturday nights we would get back in after a day on the mountain and there were a few more punters there but never too crowded.

    Unlike Easter L/W, I went last year go in late on a Friday and was lucky to find somewhere to stick the tent. OMG crowded, those photos for this year look even worse.

    OP here is my thread from last year. The whole snow camping was a bit of an experiment for us and it also involved a 3 and 5 year old. Turned out to be a great success. https://www.ski.com.au/xf/threads/camping-up-for-2018-season.80854/

    For tents, I see you have already gotten one and it looks pretty flash but for camping at Ngarigo or Diggings my suggestion would be something that would be more for comfort. We had a blackwolf turbo plus it handled the season reasonably well with the exception of one night when we first started prepping prior to the season starting. It was good to have the space to be able to sit inside with the kids and wife on days were the weather was rubbish. If I was to get a new tent, I would forgo one with the awning though as that was probably my biggest concern with it (if you go through my thread you will see the night that we had issues).

    For bags, I have a -20 rated ECW bag, the wife had one rated to around -10 and we got the kids sea summit ones from anaconda that were rated to -6. In the tent we would also lay an inflatable mattress (not inflated), thermo rest for each of us, and another blanket. We then had our bags, then another blanket and a doona over the top. We were toasty every night.

    I did consider the portable style heater when first starting out but we didn't really need it. The coldest morning we had was a minus 9. All our water had frozen and the kids were a bit off it, however we just started the car and turned on the heaters to sort them out. At night we would just wear fleece PJs and inside our bag have our thermals and ski gear lumped inside the bags. So on wake up I would quickly get dressed and start boiling water and the wife would quickly get the kids up. We also had those pocket warmers for the kids.
     
  4. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Overheard by my wife in NRMA jindy van park..

    "hey, can I get a hand...I can't back my caravan into the spot"
     
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    POW_hungry Part of the Furniture Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Hey can I get a hand with living... I can't live.
     
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  6. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    My caravan only goes forward.
     
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  7. Sage Oya

    Sage Oya Like the herb, lover of Pabst, cup ramen devotee Ski Pass: Gold

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    Cheers, really enjoyed reading your posts @skull on camping last season!

    We were down at Thredbo camping at Ngarigo over easter and it was ridic busy. Thankfully we got in Thursday noon before the masses arrived. Was a bit disappointed to see people using camping chairs to 'reserve' parking spaces whilst they took their cars somewhere for the day. For the most part though everyone was quite courteous given the numbers.

    Was able to test out our gear for the up coming season which was great. We ended up buying the MSR Remote 2 tent and S2S AP3 bags (rated for -29 comfort). The bags were super overkill for the easter weekend and we had them fully unzipped but i think come mid winter they should be about right comfort-wise as Marcelle feels the cold.

    Wasn't too windy over the long weekend but the tent seemed pretty resistant to the gusts that came through on Saturday night. Hopefully it holds up when its really blowing. If it all goes pear shaped we'll just sleep in the Pajero i guess LOL

    Looking forward to the upcoming season, will try to keep an eye out for forum members to say hi to :)
     
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  8. telecrag

    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Tent is MSR not S2S?
     
  9. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Going to rant.
    WTF is with people wearing massive boots right into the shower cubicle in the van park. Muddy AF.

    How hard is it to wear thongs?
     
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    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Also they do provide a squeegee thingo to clean the cubicle after use, use it!
     
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    I see the guy behind you has the right idea , swaggin' it ,you know what ,it looks remarkably like my swag
     
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  12. Sage Oya

    Sage Oya Like the herb, lover of Pabst, cup ramen devotee Ski Pass: Gold

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    Edit fixed LOLLOL
     
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  13. telecrag

    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    MSR are good, you won't be in the Pajero!
     
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    Jacko4650 One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Worst showers in the whole world at Donzah's caravan park - always wet, mouldy style wet, no air circulation (never heard of exhaust fans evidently), floor is always wet and muddy (from dirty great big boots?), the shower heads are pathetic, most of the soap holders are broken and useless, seats are for skinny people only, there are no mops nor enough hooks for layers in (winter) and the squeejee just spreads the wetness. Punters believe servants will remove their soap packaging left behind or worse still, empty beer bottles WTF? Otherwise, good park, very handy to first world necessities like pubs, clubs, restaurants, supermarket, ski shops and cinemas!
     
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    Jacko4650 One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    If I didn't have an insulated caravan with all the mods cons these days, I would def be using a modern swag. They are rocks in the Snowy Mountain conditions. There's not a lot of room for socialising, but sleeping has to be so much better knowing that you will not end up in the downwind snowgums during a big blow. Mind you, that MSR tent looks the goods.
     
  16. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Most of these things I agree with . However they can be avoided with better planning and more consideration.
    I wear boardies,thongs and a Hoody in the depths of winter. As do all the regulars .

    Agree re exhausts.

    The shower heads need to be replaced.

    The whole joint needs a spruce up. It's showing its 24yr old age
     
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    Jacko4650 One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Oh, I forgot to mention, shower curtains commercially available for about $20ea would make a massive difference. No idea why they haven't implemented this. They are easy to wash and rotate routinely. I brought a few with me last year to "gift" to the park, but the lady on the front desk had absolutely no idea (I doubt she's ever used the showers) so I abandoned such folly! Good news, the building is sound and changes are both cosmetic and low cost. Given the prices they charge, upgrades should be mandatory. I repeat, location is great! Management philosophy on bookings: very poor. They book out every sat night in winter, yet have barely 50% occupancy on unpowered sites during the week and turn away multi-week bookings due to the single Sat night bookings. Not very savvy!
     
  18. Arsas

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    I have never stayed at Meroo Head( but checked it out a few weeks ago) but have been camping at Stokes (as we call it) or Sunburnt beach/Termeil point (proper names) for many years and as you say it is full every weekend. The two free campsites in Meroo national park are advertised as the first free campsites south of Sydney in all of the youth hostels and backpackers in Sydney, this has led to the huge influx of campers in the last 10 years.
    I remember going back 15 years or more it was only ever used by the real campers because it had no pit toilet, the road in required a 4wd especially after rain and it was camp anywhere you liked.
    I agree something needs to be done near Thredbo but NP in NSW has a tendency to block off and limit or lock out. More than likely they will bollard and limit camp sites and put the problem back on the council. NP were going to add a fee based system to both Meroo campsites a few years ago but it got canned. Having a fee system means you need to manage it and police it which requires man hours and $$$$.
     
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    Npws are asleep at the wheel.

    It's time to tell them.
     
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    The desperate fascination with ‘rehabilitation’ of campgrounds when what is required is ‘expansion’ is quite frustrating.
     
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    Imagine the future pressure on the two campgrounds when the Great whatsitsname walking track is completed.
     
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  22. Jacko4650

    Jacko4650 One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Found a bit more time for 2019 preparations today. Planned a quick anode changeover on the caravan hot water system (boy did it need it!) but found major water leak. Water leak fixed about 3 hours later (now using much tuffa hydraulic hose for alpine freeze/thaw routine on plumbing lines). Then found probs with hand basin tap. Fixed that then then found probs with the gas system as I'd left the gas pipe disconnected for quite a few weeks after changing regulator. Seems it got rain in it, no good for gas system, so had to purge that with a compressor after dismantling connections to stove. Seems only 10 millimeters or so is enough to halt gas in a low pressure LPG system - didn't know that. Fortunately, when I pressed the ON button, everything worked fine.
    So 7 hours after starting a 20 min job to change a sacrificial anode, I jinxed out numerous other issues that would have no doubt emerged within hours of arriving in the Alps for another (hopefully) awesome winter of fun@!
     
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    Peaceful five nights camping at Island Bend. Managed to find a sheltered spot in the lower camp area away from overhanging trees. Sunday night was so windy i thought i may have to retreat to the back of the ute but all was OK. Thanks @Jacko4650 for the weather update pre arrival.
     
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    Wish me luck. Testing out my new swag at Kosi Tourist Park at Sawpit Ck tomorrow night. Hopefully I have way too much bedding packed in it and I overheat! Night ski, pizza at Aldo’s, sleep, first tracks, brekky somewhere.
     
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    If you take brekky with you, put your milk somewhere where it won't freeze :p

    Much jealous.
     
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    chicski A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    I don’t drink milk and I’m not taking any food. Will eat on the hill.
     
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    Freezing nights have been rare this season, though the screaming winds make up for it.
    Huge numbers arrived at Island Bend today, so everyone camping pretty close, but a really good mob with no yobbo's thus far. The post midnight arrivals (typical Fri night) could wreck the neighborhood however? Fingers crossed!
     
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    Enjoying dinner in Aldo’s while they groom FV. Bed is made.

     
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    ^body bag!
     
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    chicski A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Hopefully a warm one! Got enough bedding in there LOL
     
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    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Haha, when we used to bivvy, we always joked that they could just zip it up, and throw it in the back of a ute.
     
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  33. Sage Oya

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    Have been enjoying camping this season. The MSR has been pretty bomb proof so far in the gale force winds. Has been quite warm too, with the two of us in there it has maintained a fairly consistent 7 degrees.

    Enjoyed waking up to fresh snow last Saturday.
     
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    Cheap diesel heater i fitted in camper was awesome. Found i had to run on high on start up and run down to avoid lots of smoke. Not sure if this is normal. Fitted a second exhaust and muffler to reduce noise which is next to nothing. Would recommend to anyone thinking of installing in camper or caravan.
     
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    hpsauce A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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  37. Sage Oya

    Sage Oya Like the herb, lover of Pabst, cup ramen devotee Ski Pass: Gold

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    Another pleasant weekend camping at Ngarigo. Weather super mild and sans wind made for a restful nights sleep. Was super busy though, car park full on Saturday night. Would have been 20-30 tents and quite a few vans too.
     
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    Vans being there kills the carparking.

    Sure, small ones are ok, but some of the rigs lately are $200k setups and are a bit too big.

    Why bother even having a disabled park. Not enforced so always has an entitled bmw wanker in it.
     
  39. Sage Oya

    Sage Oya Like the herb, lover of Pabst, cup ramen devotee Ski Pass: Gold

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    Haha, yes there’s been some absolute behemoth rigs down there.
     
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    Quite at Ngarigo this weekend. Half a dozen vans and about 10 or so tent/swag setups. Zero wind again overnight so another very restful nights sleep. Woke to a -5 degree campsite which had frozen some of my tent pegs in the ground LOL. Left collecting the tent till the afternoon accordingly.
     
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    I am heading up to Snow camp at JB Hut on 12/8/19. Photos will follow.
     
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    was a few at diggings this weekend.
     
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    A lot of condensation in the swag last night. Was -5c when I left Sawpit around 6:30am. Stayed warm but the lounge room is now a drying room for swag and bedding.
     
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    Hmmm looks set to be rather windy this weekend. Will this be the time we get blown away LOL
     
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    skull One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    We have luckily booked accommodation this weekend due to additional passenger and as a bit of a treat. So glad we have.
     
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    Lucky! We’ll play it by ear and if needed just day trip from Canberra I think.
     
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    hmmm....I was thinking the same. but hopefully the big wind has passed by the time I'm in there.
     
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    Plan to be checking into the Bend for a few days Sunday afternoon, put the jug on Jacko.
     
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    HAd planned to take the 2wd newer sedan. Nicer on highway etc. But rethinking with the forecast...should I take the Awd older one...? For in and out of campgrounds. Or is it going to make FA difference with chains?
     
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    Awd is better as chains are often only needed to get out of the campsite onto a perfect road.

    If you can drive like ken block, you can usually get out without chains.
     
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