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Camping for the 2019 season

Discussion in 'Snow Talk' started by Sage Oya, Nov 15, 2018.

  1. skull

    skull One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Going to get one of these

    https://www.thule.com/en-gb/au/sport-rack/ski-racks/thule-tram-_-1678763

    It will connect to the Thule Hangon 4 bike rack.

    Roof racks is another option but there won't be enough clearance with our basement carpark. Otherwise inside the cab on the floor.

    The team from skyline actually drove down to in the demo vehicle to see if it would fit in our underground parking, which it did. It was a bit of a squeeze getting down the ramp to basement 2 though as you can see in the photos.
     

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  2. skull

    skull One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    there was an option for a diesel heater. They didn't recommend it. Mentioned after 5 minutes you would turn it off due to heat and size of van, it also has to connect to the fuel tank which messes with warranty. Plus you lose all the storage space under the rear seats.

    So heating will be through the vans standard heater, so turn the car on and run it. We have survived without heating so far in the tent as it is. The van will be a lot warmer than what we have travelled with so far, plus there will be the luxury or turning it on for warmth in the morning.
     
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    northsail One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Have been running a cheap diesel heater in my camper and it is awesome. So warm and great for drying gear.
     
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  4. skull

    skull One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    it is portable?

    Link?
     
  5. Sage Oya

    Sage Oya Like the herb, lover of Pabst, cup ramen devotee Ski Pass: Gold

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    Cool, looks like a very smick setup! Keeping the skis outside seems like it would be preferable, don’t want to damage that nice new interior!

    We’ll be slumming it in our tent for a bit longer I think LOL
     
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  6. northsail

    northsail One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    I have seen some portable versions.
    I picked mine up from ebay.
    12Volt 5kW for about $200. Used up some drawer space to fit it and mounted fuel tank on outside. The kit comes with attachments to fit into fuel line of diesel vehicles.
    An option you could look at once warranty runs out.
     
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  7. coolair

    coolair One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Looks good, are they build to order?
     
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  8. skull

    skull One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    yeah, they have the standard config but then you can adjust it.
     
  9. FourSquare04

    FourSquare04 A Local

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    I often think and look back now as to why the $%^& I did not buy a camper van in my younger days for snow and surf trips up and down the coast :cry:
     
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  10. Reginald

    Reginald First Runs

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    Very jealous. We looked into these last month, but budget was half this and they were all quite high kms at that price point. Bodes well for resale. Ended up with a new Forester and a new RV5 tent. Still a big improvement going down to the bottom section of Island bend as opposed to our old Volvo S80 which tended scrape a little!
     
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  11. silva

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    I would actually highly recommend the diesel heater. If it voids the warranty to have it plumbed to the fuel tank then set up a separate 10lt tank. We have one in our van. It is awesome, very safe (only off grid heating that is SIDS approved), almost silent and very easy to use. Uses under 1lt of diesel a day and keeps van warm and dry. The unit is actually very small - you do not loose much storage space. We throw towels in on top of the ducting so we always have warm towels - luxury. You wont turn the unit off after 5 mins you will set the thermostat and have a nice warm, dry van all night (along with nice warm,dry cloths, boots and gloves in the morning).
     
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  12. skull

    skull One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    So I’ve done a bit of googling and there is an installer here that can retro fit a smaller unit and is reasonably priced.

    I’m thinking we will get him to hook on up next year before the season kicks off.

    The mention of drying clothes ect. will be the real plus.
     
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  13. coolair

    coolair One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    About to buy one (diesel heater) for my Avan, about $170 on ebay.
     
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    skull One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    the ones the installer puts in are a couple of grand as well as taking up a bunch of space So that is one of the reasons I didn't go for it. Now after looking online there are tidy little units I can get put in
     
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    silva One of Us

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    We have the Webasto one:
    https://www.webasto-comfort.com/en-au/product-overview/product/show/air-top-2000-stc-2/
    Its now over 10 years old (we had one of the first units installed in Australia). It was expensive but has certainly stood the test of time. If you go on the camping forums you will see that a lot of people are happy with their cheaper ebay versions.
     
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  16. coolair

    coolair One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    My heater should turn up next week, good reason for another snow trip, I will post how it goes.
     
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    skull One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    photos installing and when done please
     
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  18. skull

    skull One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Happy place. Campsite had a fair crowd but we scored our regular spot from last year (the first time we’ve managed to get it this season).

     
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  19. coolair

    coolair One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Will do, plenty of good YouTube clips on them .
     
  20. Snow Blowey

    Snow Blowey Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Only downside of transporter is the time it takes to heat up with fitted heater. 20mins run before you get anything. That's at idle.

    Still not convinced on the diesel heater. Would not be nice sleeping with it on. How about fumes for other campers. Mate has one and it stinks pretty bad on the outside. We sleep very warm in ours. It's got insulation and we use our down quilt from home and a sheet. Most nights I sleep in trackies and wake up sweaty.

    In terms of drying, keep gear on and drive 20mins with heater on and everything is dry.
     
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    skifree grey Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    I would like a gander at your rig if you’re down again this season.
     
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  22. cornice11

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    Dont be silly. Thinkiing about other campers isnt a thing at diggins or ngarigo.

    Just run a genny and electric heater.
     
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    skifree grey Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    No BOOM Box?
     
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    Jacko4650 One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Tip for anyone buying and installing a cheap diesel heater - buy two! Second one to swap in when the first fails, which is more likely than not. Otherwise, buy extra controller board, glow plug and pump. Also mix 10-15% kero with 'standard' diesel, avoiding alpine diesel where possible due to carbon build up (and subsequent failure) due to the additive, most likely heating oil.
    When they are running, camping is quite luxurious. A gas heater alternative is more reliable, but circa $2.5k installed and $20-30 a week in gas. Ouch!
     
  25. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    It takes that much gas?
    That's a 8.5kg bottle a week?
     
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    cornice11 One of Us

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    Oh yeah need one or two of those too.
     
  27. skifree

    skifree grey Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Chainsaw to cut up wood at 11pm cos you’v just figured you’ll run out before the beer is all gone.;)
     
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    Yeah youll need the fire otherwise nowhere to put the empties
     
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    northsail One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    I give my diesel heater a run on full blast at start up and shut down to clean the system. Will see how it goes over time. Did use alpine diesel last two trips. Will use kero next trip.
    Boom box is the next addition to the camper. You should be ok @Jacko4650 as i camp down on the river.
     
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  30. Sage Oya

    Sage Oya Like the herb, lover of Pabst, cup ramen devotee Ski Pass: Gold

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    Another peaceful nights sleep at Ngarigo. Was a bit less lazy than usual and put a tomahawk on the fire. Usual mix of tents and vans :)
     
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  31. skull

    skull One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    was a great weekend at the campsite this weekend. I have now met a couple of forum people in the flesh, I think it was Blake at Diggings and then pumped into @Sage Oya and partner at Thredbo.

    We have a new system with our campfire now and it works a treat. We put half a bag of those hot rocks on the fire, kindling, fire lighters, I then cheat with a dash of kero over it. Woosh. Straight up and running. Then the bigger logs. So toasty.

    Our tent routine hasn't really changes from last year. It was good to get our last year regular spot back. We didn't do breakfast at the camp this weekend, due to the crazy crowds of August. We left early then ate in the car park on Saturday and today treated ourselves to a purchased breakfast from FF. Personally, I think breakfast at the car is more relaxing then being in there. Anyway it is Spring now so as far as irregular punters are concerned the season is over so the crowds have died off.

    There was also a VW trakkadu there on the weekend, which is similar to the van set up we have ordered. So I went up for a sticky beak. The owners were real nice and let me have a look around. They have a small desiel heater and I am now 2000% sold on getting one. It was warm.

    The only downside of the weekend was losing my new Garmin Fenix 5 plus somewhere on the mountain, car park, or campsite. A little gutted as it was only 4 weeks old and my H&C won't cover it, and and they are no longer 1/2 price.
     
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  32. Mister Tee on XC Skis

    Mister Tee on XC Skis A Local Ski Pass: Silver

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    August 27-30th Alpine N.P. , J.B. Hut. Nordic skiing and snow camping.

     
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    Amarok heater surprisingly shite too. Probably same HVAC unit I suspect. Given euro origins, it's wierd.
     
  34. Mister Tee on XC Skis

    Mister Tee on XC Skis A Local Ski Pass: Silver

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    A heater? We Mexicans just sleep in tents in winter sleeping bags in the snow and get a fire burning inside a hut at night , if we can manage it.
     
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    I think its an efficiency think. Engine must run on half cylinders at idle or something. It heats fast once you get moving, its you the sitting it idle from cold that i have an issue.

    In terms of the design its probably good that the engine doesn't heat up rapidly - not good for rough sleepers that want to wake up to a warm car though!
     
  36. BrockF

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    That was me camped next door!
     
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    GS A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    New Toyota 2.8 diesel takes an eternity to come up to temp if left idling, really needs to be driven with reasonable load on the engine.
     
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    Heaters? Maybe if wife and kids, but solo you're better off to dress properly and acclimatise.

    It frees you from your confines. Embrace the conditions.
     
  39. Mister Tee on XC Skis

    Mister Tee on XC Skis A Local Ski Pass: Silver

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    Yes, Icebreaker Merino wool full length thermal underwear is great. Icebreaker have a discount outlet in Smith street in Collingwood in Melbourne.
     
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    skull One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Nice to meet you, I hope myself and the kids weren’t too loud.
     
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    Agreed - driving for just a few mins and it’s toasty, but at idle before driving it sure takes a while!!
     
  42. coolair

    coolair One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Done my hard yards camping in any thing from a hootchie to hotel, but just trying out
    My new diesel heater in the A van tonight at Nagario and it is magic.big day on the hill tomorrow.
    I
     
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  43. Mister Tee on XC Skis

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    Mt.Buffalo . Snow camping at Lake Catani. August 12-14th 2019.A fire inside the hut at night was very pleasantly warm and it helped us to dry some gear out too. @Carola and @beefa skiing and I all had the campsite to ourselves,free of charge.
    In summer it is a car camping horror movie ;-P .
     
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    Just home after a quick trip to Thredbo and setting up camp at Nagario, Snow was great on Saturday, the other reason
    for the trip was to try out my new Diesel fired heater, I installed it in my Avan last weekend, first night I ran it for around 3
    hours and it was fantastic, started it at 5 am Saturday and it was fair, it was no where near as hot as the previous night,
    Saturday night worked a treat for around 3 hours, this morning-hardly anything.
    I got home and tried it, lots of smoke outside, I checked the glow plug and it looked ok, checked the voltage , just on 12 v.
    Plugged in the charger 12.7v tried again and it nearly fired, I will try again after a few days on the charger.

    I now think you need a rely good battery, with good solar for top up, I only have a 20w fixed panel and it faced south.
    I know a few people are interested in these heaters, just keep in mind you need very good 12 v supply,
    The 2kw version heats my Avan no problem ( when working).
    If it works ok after a charge up I will invest in more solar panels and second 110a deep cycle battery.
     
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    Same thing happened to a guy in a Toyota van during the week. Worked well for a couple of hours. The next time he tried the heater (meant to be a Chinese copy of a Planar) it pumped out an amazing amount of smoke, and appeared (smelt) to be flooding. As you say a low battery could be the problem.
    I'm undecided; try a cheapie or shell out $1400 for a German brand
     
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    My heater blew lots of smoke the first time i used it.Try running on full power setting before turning off. Start it on full power also for a few minutes . I only have a 110amp battery which does lights and heater for a week.
     
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    hope that sorts out for you @coolair

    Weekend at Diggings for us. Close to our favourite spot but not our actual favourite spot.

    Easy setting the tent up now and our fire process is on point. The warmer weather makes it a lot easier waking up in the morning and getting the breakfast routine up and running. I risked not putting the extra guy ropes on and had no issues at all. Only a few more skiing weekends left. Then it will be a bit of a camping break from Diggings until the mtb trails are set up. Hopefully have the van by then.

    I was thinking next year we might change sites (having a vehicle and all) but will probably pull up at Ngarigo and sleep there then in the morning, whilst still in our PJs, head up to the Tbo car park at 7 and do the breakfast routine and get ready up on the mountain. We might even do dinner up at Dead Horse Gap with a spot of afternoon tobogganing after a day on the slopes. I might even try a cheeky overnight up the top then drive down in the morning.
     
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    coolair One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    I ran it on full power at start and shutdown.
     
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    Did you try priming fuel line again?
     
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    coolair One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    No, but by the smell and smoke fuel was the last thing it needed, The van is all packed away now on charge until next week end when I will try again.