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Camping near hotham or mt Buller

Discussion in 'Backcountry' started by Lil_powlesy, Jun 6, 2016.

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  1. Lil_powlesy

    Lil_powlesy First Runs

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    Looking for free campsites near hotham or Buller that would be secure enough to leave a tent up while riding looking at staying for up to a week fully self sustainable with winter camping gear.
     
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    Jb hut just outside dinner plain would fit the bill I'd have thought.
     
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    yep, or carters road near mirimbah at buller.
     
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    'secure' and 'tent' dont actually go together but ive left tents in all sorts of places and never had a problem
     
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    Tanuki A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    I've tented near JB, never had a problem security wise (though would not leave valuables in the tent). Is normally well above the snowline, but can be very damp.

    There are some well known camp grounds near Harrieteville etc but a bit of slog every day to get up the hill
     
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    mr Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    of course there is blowhard hut and diamintina hut but they are pretty skanky. ive stayed in both (well camped next to them and cooked in them) so maybe that is reflective of me.......
     
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    There is Smoko Campground before Harrietville I've used it a fair bit and been OK with stuff up during the day. Caravan parks would get more of my business if they were charging reasonable rates for the service level.
     
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    There is also Victoria Falls for Hotham, nice camp site, but a bit further away than JB.
     
  9. Mister Tee on XC Skis

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    JB Plain would be under snow in mid winter but there is a hut there. I have snow camped next to the Diamantina hut. It isnot the bets but a it is somewhere to cook that is out of the weather, and maybe have a fire there too. Carter's Mill campsite near Mirimbah is not really that flat but it has dunnies and a fireplace. Sheepyard flat is further from Mt. Buller but it is much nicer.Do you want to pay resort fees even if you are not using the resorts in winter?
    You could leave your car at TBJ ( and pay !) and camp at the Howqua Gap hut. From there it is not that far to Mt. Buller up the Corn Hill track.
     
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    Yep diamantina is a hole, don't bother with that one. JB plain the way to go, or smoko if you come from that direction. always camp grounds at Freeburgh and Harrietville (if they allow tents) would make it slightly more secure as well.
     
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    Wherever you go you are going to pay resort entry.
     
  12. ladycamper

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    Yes but people who camp outside the resort boundary only need to pay resort entry for the days they bring and park any motor vehicle into the resort, whose boundaries are defined by toll gates and signs on their access road.
     
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    JB plain has a number of trees around it which help with the wind. Carters Mill is great for Buller/Stirling guests who want to be on the hill early, Sheepyard Flats a few km off the highway by unsealed roads. Carters toilets are new, and while it's generally a sloping site it's not a big slope some flat sites can be found if you get in quickly.
     
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    The dirt access Road to Smoko is very rough. My little Jap mobile barely made it out there in summer , just to look around and scout out camp sites.
    . In winter it would better for a high clearance 4 x 4 truck.
    The campsites by the river next to the old Harrietville Road bridge near Freeburgh are good and are more easily accessed by a 2 WD car. I have camped there many times in Green season in order to get an early start for a hike in the area. The Diamantina hut is not the best ( I typed 'bets', what an ignominious error!). It often smells of wee. Somebody told me that they thought that it is haunted. It is haunted by the smell of wee!. You'd have to be insane to want to sleep inside that hut.
    If the snow line is low enough you could camp at the Bon Accord spur hut ruins site and melt snow for water to drink and to cook with but that is quite low down and not anything to bank on ,even in mid winter.
     
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    Compact 4 cylinder cars would struggle but other large vehicles can be driven through with care, higher clearance does make it easier, see plenty of vans like Hi Ace Toyota come in there.
     
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    I camped at Smoko before Easter and my girlfriend's lil Hyundai Getz got in there without any hassle. There were a few muddy potholes but that was about it. Winter is probably a little different though.
     
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    Not a lot different most days.
     
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    Hey guys is there any free camping spots around falls creek?
     
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    Mountain Creek has a drop dunny and nice spots to camp with plenty of water and fire places etc.
     
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    If only staying a nite or three there is always the old hutsite on the FC road Big enough for a couple of caravans
    So long as you don't block access to the SEC/Southern Hydro gate there's no problem No water No dunny but I've used it many times in the past
    It is a cold and damp place tho that won't matter much for a short stay Better for a small caravan or camper trailer than a tent
     
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    If you stay at Mountain Creek near Tawonga you will do well.That is a really nice campsite. Coming from Omeo there are car camping options before Trapyard gap where the road is closed for winter. You'd have to hike/ ski/ snow shoe into the High Plains from there.
    If you hike in from Howman's gap to Roper's hut you can snow camp there. It is a very good hut with a pit loo , a creek nearby and the XC ski mob out there thrive on the conditions around the Mt. Nelse West area.There is no pole line over Spion Kopje to the junction with the AAWT pole line at Warby corner so be prepared to navigate in poor conditions.
    It depends on if you want to go down hill skiing or explore the Bogong High Plains in winter conditions.
     
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    All of these camp sites suffer from a lack of good firewood because they get a lot of use
    So if you want a wood fire try and pack in some decent stuff with you in the car
     
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    I always pack firewood into the car boot when I head up to Sheepyard flat or Carter's mill for Mt. Stirling or other locally based trips.
     
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    Carters Mill is close to the main highway about 500 metres on a very good unsealed road that normal cars can use, so it's good for a quick trip to Stirling or Buller in the morning. It has new colorbond pit toilets, table and fireplace. It's state forest and maintained by DELWP.
     
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    For Falls Creek I've camped next to the car on the West Kiewa logging road up past the power station turn-off where the locked season gate is - also multiple camping spots off the road all along the way up the ridge just past the power station turn-off. Bit of a drive down the mountain but quiet when you get there & you are out of everyone's way...

    For Coming late into Falls & just dossing down in the car before heading up, pulling in to just past the parking area at Clover power station right next to the river migh also be an option - wouldn't put a tent up there & not sure mgmt would like it though...
     
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    Carter's mill campsite is not flat at all...o_O.
     
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    One reason for using the "Evernew self inflating autoflat, backpackable tent platform."
     
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    If you're lucky there's one or two spots that are, regulars know the spots.
     
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    I Know Carter's Mill campsite. I have camped there in pouring rain before heading up to Mt. Stirling the next day . Even the 2 or 3 flat spots are on a slope !.
     
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    oh just seen this lot of posts...
    if Team Bears had a tow ball and a caravan(just saying) then we would drive from Harrieteville and set up in the wayside stop above the Meg(the only one that we are aware of) which is reasonably flat and though trees are nearby not a huge danger from overhead falling debri..do some day skiing at Hotham/side/back country and then return at night for van camping..on still nights there would be plenty of firewood nearby to do a mega fire...possibility of snow but usually not a big issue and mostly even with a van a pretty simple trip........:p
     
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    Bit of an old thread, but I was wondering...
    What about actually on Mt Buller, within easy reach of lifts? Anywhere for a tent, igloo or cave?
    On Hotham, I've camped at Derricks Hut (water and toilet available and hut with stove if really necessary)
    but is there anywhere on Mt Buller? (I'd love to dig a snow cave around the back of the summit, but would I be escorted off if I did that?)
    There's Howqua Gap hut, if you don't mind a bit of a trek in the morning and evening, but that's what BC skis are for!
    Any thoughts?
     
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    West ridge
     
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    Would've thought somewhere along Corn Hill tk would hide a tent or two
     
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    Serious? That'd be fun.
     
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    I thought the same. Perhaps no need to go as far as Howqua gap.
     
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    I reckon the campsites on Buttercup Road are better as they're away from the noise on My Buller Rd. Only 5 minutes further away.
     
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    There’s an urban myth that someone camped for the winter out near One Tree Hill for the winter in the early 90s. Had some sort of snow cave / igloo setup.

    I met a chick who spent the season camping in Vail, that’s hardcore. I went out there for a night, was cold! She ended up getting sick and spent a week on our couch!
     
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    it is
     
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    One Tree hill. Wow, that's smack in the middle of the resort isn't it? Epic cheekiness, but why not?
    Has anyone actually seen any resort regs that forbid it? Maybe they thought no-one would be hardy enough.
     
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    It’s basically at the end of Stirling Rd out past the last lodges. The Stirling House building wasn’t there back then though.

    You’d be doing a lot less harm than the f-ing sled dogs out on the Corn Hill Rd
     
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    Certainly I'd be less likely to crap in the ski tracks....
     
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    Try this:
    Alpine Resort Management Regulation
    14 Camping
    (1) The Board of an alpine resort may by
    determination set aside any area of the alpine
    resort as an area where camping is permitted with
    an authority of the Board.
    (2) The Board of an alpine resort may issue an
    authority to a person to camp in an area of the
    alpine resort set aside under subregulation (1).
    (3) A person must not camp in an alpine resort unless
    he or she—
    (a) does so in an area set aside where camping is
    permitted; and
    (b) does so under a camping authority issued by
    the Board of the alpine resort; and
    (c) has paid the fee for camping determined by
    the Board under regulation 38.
    Penalty: 5 penalty units.
    (4) Subregulation (3) does not apply to a person who
    camps in the alpine resort in an emergency.
    (5) If an authority issued under subregulation (2) does
    not specify a period for which a person may camp
    under the authority, a person must not camp under
    the authority for more than 21 consecutive nights.
    Penalty: 5 penalty units.


    Have camped at Derrick hut (in a tent) but it was an emergency. A blizzard qualifies.
     
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    Been a while since there was a stove in Charlie Derrick unless they have put one back in recently, while technically you are not supposed to camp in the Mt Hotham ski area nobody has ever said anything to anybody I know who camps there in winter. I have in the past camped half way between Buller and Stirling and nobody said anything, although things may have changed in the last few years. Mates do a winter camp on the West ridge most years so I guess that's OK
     
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    Many years ago we did a trip up the NW ridge of Buller, camped in the high snowgums just passed the summit (It was a murky day), then skied the Buller runs. No one knew we were there. Probably not a thing to do on a good clear day.
     
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    So it sounds like that's a NO CAMPING effectively unless there's an explicit signage. Hmm, how does this apply to Mt Stirling? Maybe there's explicit signage somewhere. No-one's ever objected to me camping wherever the heck I wanted to on Stirling.
     
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    My preference for Hotham would be Victoria River Falls. Quite a few camp there, generally below the snow and very sheltered.
    Leave your car at Dinner Plain and catch the Shuttle Bus to Hotham - no charges.
     
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    Maybe I just imagined remembering that stove when I was there on the weekend before Queens b'day this year. We didn't use it. (which if it was imaginary, would be a good thing...)
     
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    I have no idea. What happens and what the regs say could be two different things. If you do it then don't make it obvious. JB hut near Dinner Plain works for most but it gets pretty crowded. Victoria River is a quieter option. You are below the snow line but don't drink the water. No hut though but you can have a fire.
     
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  49. Mister Tee on XC Skis

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    I am quite sure there is a stove at Derrick hut . I was up there in Jan. 2019.
     
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    Good, then my memory is still just as bad as it used to be, not catastrophically worse, as I had feared.