Car Danchi thread 2016/17

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Lot of people thinking about this now. So why not have a dedicated thread for alternate resorts and car/van hire options where like-minded souls can dream dreams and hatch plans?

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Vermillion

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I'm all over this. The best way to see Japan in winter and to get the best snow. If I didnt have this option this season just gone, I would have had a really average time.
 

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Got a van for 3 months while we are there.
2 months accomodation is booked, the other month to just tour around. Seriously considering just staying in the van for the last one and touring around
 

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Something I should consider, but can it be done solo? hmmmmmm :rolleyes:
 
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Got a van for 3 months while we are there.
2 months accomodation is booked, the other month to just tour around. Seriously considering just staying in the van for the last one and touring around
Is the van hire or buy? If hire who from?
 

Marc8491927

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Booked a Van for all of Feb on Hokkaido, probably going to freeze to death. Although that exchange rate is making it an expensive "cheap holiday"
 

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100% the way. Had best ever trip in 7 trips to Japan last year by hiring a car and touring Hokkaido. Same thing locked in for January this year.
 

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Local hire off a fella yoshi matsu in niseko, runs www.carniseko.com
Chrondo, just be careful with Yoshi. I have hired from him a couple of years ago-no probs.
But last year was a bad experience.
He is a super chill guy, but i dont think he is too good at running a business.
He owns a few properties around Niseko and last year i notice they mostly got the same review"arrived and booked accom not ready and had to move house"
 
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Chrondo, just be careful with Yoshi. I have hired from him a couple of years ago-no probs.
But last year was a bad experience.
He is a super chill guy, but i dont think he is too good at running a business.
He owns a few properties around Niseko and last year i notice they mostly got the same review"arrived and booked accom not ready and had to move house"
Yeah, I've delt with him the past couple of seasons, haha, know what hes like.

What happened last year?
 

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No reason to bother, japan is cheap enough to make a viable holiday anyway and all the worthy resorts have nice convenient accom at the base.

Untrue. Plenty of out of the way places were finding accom can be difficult for gaijin. And a lot of the best riding in Hokkaido is backcountry, so having a van / decent wheels opens up many options.

Abundant onsens make it a realistic option, despite the chill of a deep Hokkaido winter.
 

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Untrue. Plenty of out of the way places were finding accom can be difficult for gaijin. And a lot of the best riding in Hokkaido is backcountry, so having a van / decent wheels opens up many options.

Abundant onsens make it a realistic option, despite the chill of a deep Hokkaido winter.

He shoots, he scores. Sorry just wanted to flick a lure.

@Rabid_K9 trip reports my have helped inspire several car based trips throughout Honshu and hokkiado the last few years. cheap, deep, stinky fun for all the crew.
 
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Marc8491927

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In regards to actually staying in the van. Is it possible to just stay at the trailheads/carparks of places like Asahidake & Tokachidake? Or am I better off heading back into a town each arvo?
Whats the road clearing like? I imagine they are pretty on the ball or is it like the Icefields Parkway in Canada where it can take a couple of days to clear properly and they don't really worry about turnouts and stuff?
Any recommendations for maps/guidebooks I prefer hard copy maps and will upload some stuff to my phone as reference.
 

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In regards to actually staying in the van. Is it possible to just stay at the trailheads/carparks of places like Asahidake & Tokachidake? Or am I better off heading back into a town each arvo?
Whats the road clearing like? I imagine they are pretty on the ball or is it like the Icefields Parkway in Canada where it can take a couple of days to clear properly and they don't really worry about turnouts and stuff?
Any recommendations for maps/guidebooks I prefer hard copy maps and will upload some stuff to my phone as reference.

yes. i slept at asahidake or the hotel carparks close by.
get used to skiing during the day. hitting an onsen and hanging out in the onsen/hotel lobby and use their wifi. sleep in carpark when ready.
roadclearing is the alarm clock in the morning.
 
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pedub

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Pardon my ignorance but "cardanchi" essentially means touring around sleeping in your car?
With the abundance of onsen in Japan it must be a perfect place for it
 

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'Car danchi' loosely used. Thread is more about getting a car and touring around rather than being based in any one particular resort. Lot more people doing it now so therefore it's own dedicated thread.

You're correct there are a lot of onsen and some open 24 hours. Landmark Cafe in Ikenotaira Onsen for example has an overnight deal for something like 3,000 yen. There is a community hall in Togakushi where you used to be able to sleep upstairs for free. Not sure if that still happens though.
 

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Pardon my ignorance but "cardanchi" essentially means touring around sleeping in your car?
With the abundance of onsen in Japan it must be a perfect place for it

car-apartment is the tranlsation i think
and yeah japan (and iceland) are the best places for it.

i discovered some awesome supersentos because of it
 

pedub

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car-apartment is the tranlsation i think
and yeah japan (and iceland) are the best places for it.

i discovered some awesome supersentos because of it

I'm reading your thread you linked to above (I've read bits of it before, but I'm reading it again in more detail)
2 questions:

1. What part of Kamui are you in for the vid in post #91?

2. Is Nayoro Piyashiri worth the trip from Asahikawa? Is there anywhere else better in that area?
 

webberchoked

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I'm reading your thread you linked to above (I've read bits of it before, but I'm reading it again in more detail)
2 questions:

1. What part of Kamui are you in for the vid in post #91?
offpiste
2. Is Nayoro Piyashiri worth the trip from Asahikawa? Is there anywhere else better in that area?
not worth going to if you arent heading further north.
tokachidake
kurodake
furano
tomamu
 

jorgo

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Planning to get a van for a few weeks this season. Anyone have any reviews or reccomendations for rental businesses? Both main and north island.

What is a realistic amount of people to fit comfortably in the type B camper size here for example listed as '6'. https://japanrv-rental.com/
We are thinking 3 with gear and room to dry things.

Will be watching this thread closely!

Thanks
Aaron
 

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IMO a big campervan is a really uncomfortable way to see Japan whilst being tight when you can get really cheap accommodation readily, like MG said. Yeah you'll save some bucks, but in the end, your experience will be better if you choose to sleep in a room instead of a car.
 

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After a few months of research and confusing emails I've decided to can the camper idea this season. Will try again for next year with much earlier booking and more homework.

Main reason was prices of rental was not cheap enough to make it worth putting up with the living conditions. This is not to say you cant find cheap vans but these seem to be either booked out well in advanced or, they are booked by the western looking camper websites some of which are listed above and then rented out by them as agents for almost 50% mark up in some cases. These prices were more that renting a family wagon or van size car plus cheap accom for 4 people!
 

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If hiring a camper you need to ensure it is 'winterised',i.e. If the plumbing ain't insulted you ain't using the sink or dunnie which sorta defeats the purpose - I know from exp ( be it in BC)
 
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Good decision, although there may be some 'last minute specials' although that's less likely to happen with campers due to limited quantities.

Every time I think of car danchi I look at how much accom. costs in Japan and the sums just dont add up to do it.
 

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Unless you're a super tight ass that sleeps in a car, or a don't care, just pay for the campervan person, then the way to go IMO is having a regular car and either a), basing yourself at one or two places and touring out, or b) finding cheap rooms / 24hr onsen / manga cafe as you go.
 

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Do you need a camper? How many of you?

You can find onsen places to stay in overnight.
My brother and I are giving it a go...but also thinking that we will only end up staying in the van about half the nights. Not really doing it for the cost effectiveness but to have the comfort (relative) of a back-up option which will hopefully make it more stress free. Also the experience... Will report back!
 

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My brother and I are giving it a go...but also thinking that we will only end up staying in the van about half the nights. Not really doing it for the cost effectiveness but to have the comfort (relative) of a back-up option which will hopefully make it more stress free. Also the experience... Will report back!

Good luck mate, I reckon you'll find yourself staying in cheap ryokans and the like more often than you think. It's pretty easy to get accommodation on or around the slopes in Japan, pretty much every hill, from the tiniest to obviously the bigger ones, will have a giant on-site accommodation option for you. And if you get your breakfast included in the nightly rate, then it becomes even more enticing to leave the van in the parking lot.
 

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Anyone got an idea on when rental companies start putting summer tyres back on their rental fleets??
Central Honshu in particular.
 
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