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Chair down on Gunbarrel, Thredbo?

Discussion in 'Thredbo' started by azzski, Jul 22, 2019.

  1. dawooduck

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    I don't quite know what you mean
     
  2. kylep

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    The injured lady in the articles seems to have fallen victim to the outside rail, not an inner separator - ie she ended up one cheek in and one cheek out. It wasn't enough to shake it out...
     
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  3. dawooduck

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    Mate Australia is standardised.

    In Austria this year every chair I skied on to was different. All within the same resort/area. One even had Recaro racing seats which work well in a car but are fckn hopeless on a ski lift. Another was a bubble chair that looked like something out of the Jetsons. Many weird and wonderful iterations.

    They all used to be somewhat similar but now...
     
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  5. Aractus

    Aractus One of Us

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    That incident had nothing to do with dividers, the safety bar on the approaching chair was down. But the point was that (notwithstanding the Supreme Court's decision) that the incident was preventable had the lift operator been better trained to handle situations like that, or had there been more than one operator. Perisher has clearly taken this incident seriously since every chairlift now always has at least 2 operators at the loading area - not just one that can be distracted while fixing the loading track. Contrast that with t-bars where there's one operator per loading area.
     
  6. Telemark Phat

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    Perisher won on appeal
     
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    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    Correct.
    However the centre or seat dividers are more likely to do regular injuries - probably smaller ones granted, but I’ve certainly caught my leg on one when bumped by the person next to me - big bruise the next day.
    They’re stupid additions.
     
  8. Aractus

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    Sure I take your point, heck I've been bruised, twice, by Mt Perisher Triple because of lack of padding between seats despite doing my best to position myself. Those seat-mounted dividers are just designed to injure.
     
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  9. Nicko4334

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    If safety of the mountain users was truly the key concern, then logically, alcohol and drug testing of the ticket holders would be far more beneficial than testing the staff. Not that I'm against testing of staff! I've seen it in the mining industry. It works. Hungover staff don't start their shift!
     
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    I noticed chair 110 on gunbarrel has the number sticker but no doppylmayr in small writing underneath the number (only one on that had a sticker like this).Is this the death chair?
     
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    No. That fell off.
     
  12. Alleve

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    I'd guess that 110 probably lost its original sticker (maybe vandalism, maybe the adhesive just failed) so KT bought another sticker. It's not unusual. The chair that fell off the lift wouldn't be in service due to safety reasons. Both the clamp and the back of the seat on the fallen chair were damaged.
     
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  13. Aractus

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    So last time I was up at Perisher I noticed a couple of things in the splice of the chairlift cables. One of the tucks on the Pretty Valley chair had a bulge, and a good 3 or maybe 4 of the tucks on the Pleasant Valley chair cable were noticeably thinner! It's quite obvious for the fixed lifts that they avoid clamping to the tucks, on the Pleasant Valley chair cable the tucks can be found between the chairs of 1 ... 2 etc. That's no coincidence, they set it up by starting at the cable splice. Of course an imperfect splice is just one possible cause of the Gunbarrel incident, and someone who skis in Thredbo would need to look for the tucks on that cable to know whether there are imperfections in it.

    (Pleasant Valley chair is a detachable/"express" chair, whereas Pretty Valley is a fixed chair).
     
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    Agree wholeheartedly!

    In fact all chairs 3 or 4 with dividers are risk to one's health.

    As a guy I can tell you I've nearly been neutered when pushed forward a tad by my Osprey ski pack & failed to slide left or right in time as the sausage poker (literally) slammed down.

    Now the top bar makes sense - I'm all for these! But the side bits are more to trap toddlers I feel.

    And they probably don't even do that very well??

    Hate 'em - get rid o' dem'!
     
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    In Europe they're 'all aboard' with the child safety thing. Imagine how carefully you have to position yourself when this safety bar comes slamming down. Of course someone always drops the thing into place before everyone is set.

     
  16. snowgum

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    'Nasty Shrek' cried Donkey!!

    Could imagine some fabulous welts and maybe a lawsuit or two from such a beast!!
     
  17. Chaeron

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    Then ones I’ve used are automatic lowering and are really easy to use, soft landing.

    They are on slopes with lots of beginners
     
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  20. telecrag

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    Must of been a fixed grip plane.
     
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    This was also relevant: Court Awards $150,000 to Mountain Biker Who Fell From Chairlift

    Dude snuck on for one last run after the last chair was supposed to be loaded. They shut it down for the night while he was still halfway up. It took just 15 minutes for him to go full desperado, and convince himself he needed to try and monkey swing along the cable and climb down the tower. He...did not make it to the tower.
     
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    Given that his bike was loaded onto the lift by the attendant, I'd hardly say that he snuck on.

    He might have been impatient, but he clearly didn't know that the hikers were coming when he started to climb.

    This seems to be a far more reasonable outcome than the case of the snowboarder who went down a closed run and hit a snowmaker: https://snowbrains.com/snowboarder-awarded-broken-leg/
     
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    But was his bike OK?? o_O
     
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