Charlotte Pass Road opening?
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I asked the office manager last sunday and they said the week before the long weekend, but given the amount of snow still up there it might take longer.
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Will depend on how long it takes CP, NPWS and PB to reduce the load to easy blowing depth for RMS's blowers. Or maybe parks are getting CP to do that bit, I forget. Lotsa snow up at the turning circle still.
can someone take some pics and post?
looks great and gives a good representation of the actual snow depth
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....and check the dunny up there....particularly the guttering which is matched by half of what is on the NPWS office in Perisher. The gutter is an invention (patented) by a mate of mine. It is anti-icing and flexible.
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not sure...try snowgutters.com...my mate is the bloke in the middle and another mate is the baldy one. Ask a question if you want...sure you would get a response.> Just spoke to RTA who stated that it'll be open on Monday unless new snow makes the road unsafe.
So we got new snow...any updates? RTA website lists it as closed.> gates would still be locked up there for a while to discourage road jumpers a bit further up.
What? That's complete bull. Seriously?Last edited by a moderator:Hmmm. Normally I'm the one defending a slightly hardline NPWS policy...but if this is seriously a reason to keep the road shut? Talk about the actions of a few ruining it for the many!
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Oh no, I forgot. The rangers have appointed themselves as thredbo police and regularly throughout the season approach and harrass campers that they suspect are thredbo staff.
I had a ranger use his position to demand my ID, then passed it onto thredbo. It's ok, he won't do it again to me.
CP turntable clearing completed today. Why did the RMS only open to Spencer's Creek? We await where the road is open to early tomorrow morning.
CP have exclusive right to the transport on the CP road until the end of the long weekend. This would be compromised by the road opening early, so it will never happen. This predates the handover of the road to RMS and would have been part of the hand over information from Parks to RMS.
Somewhere in the KNP Man Plan it talks about keeping CP an isolated village fairly specifically. So that and the commercial side of giving CP exclusive right to transport from Perisher to CP keeps this situation rolling on.
The early opening to Spencers Creek is a compromise within the above arrangements. And I suspect (really random guess) has it origins in someone in Parks wanting to go fish in Spencers Creek on the opening weekend of the fishing season. Or the trout fishing bodies successfully lobbying Parks for access to fish Spencers Creek on the opening weekend.skifree said:
Maybe, but the CP Resort shut on 16 September so there has been no option for transport up the road for the last 10 days. IMO, the road should be cleared at least to Spencers Ck when the conditions allow (ie. some time in September). Authorities are happy spend big time on keeping the road clear all year to Perisher but won't run machines up to Spencers Ck in the last couple of weeks to give access to BC users. All Park users are paying the same park use fees.Last edited by a moderator:
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Seems like CP is the first place we should lobby. But CP closed on the 16th and work started on clearing the road on the next day.Last edited by a moderator:
The opening of the road is as noted above subject to CP approvals due to lease arrangements. This year that was granted, and an arrangement put in place that CP and PB, poss with NPWS assistance, would clear the depth to a level at which the RMS blower could operate. The depth reduction was substantially hampered by a heavily cemented ice layer, and additional snow. The aim was to have it opened for the LWE Sat, but it was not to be as nature sometimes intervenes.
There was a substantial (poss six figure) cost assosciated with this opening attempt due to the depth and extent of this years snowfall. Good problem to have I guess. Opening to Spencers is the 'stopgap' before it can be opened to the circle. One of the issues with a partial opening is the lack of park and turnaround areas in safe places. A partial opening between Spencers and the fully open circle can be dangerous and harder to manage due to these issues. People doing three pointers in blind corners, and such. Road managers have a responsibility to not make a relatively iffy situation worse by a partial opening, for better or for worse.
All in all the will and cooperation was there between four different companies and agencies, but as happens with dealing with the natural world, reality intervened.
No conspiracies, no bad will, just challenges.
The RTA's page here notes
It is the Live Traffic NSW page if the link does not work. You enter Jindabyne and Charlotte Pass as the trip, a blue line appears on the map and the summary on the right hand side. I hope this is up to date.
II could not find the road closures page.Last edited by a moderator:
