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Advice needed Coffee beans in Van>Kelowna

Discussion in 'Canada' started by kylep, Dec 12, 2017.

  1. kylep

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    Last time I was in Canada 2 years ago the coffee was ordinary. Found 1 or 2 good cafes in Vancouver and some other destinations but was minimal.

    This time I'm taking a hand pump espresso machine but just had the thought that it would be best if I don't need to transport beans. Anyone have any tips? We have an overnight in Van before we drive to Kelowna for a bit over a week.
    @luvthabumps ?
     
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    Haha desperate times call for desperate measures! First world problem yes, but totally agree!

    Last year in whistle I walked from near the bottom of the chairs to the rings on the last few days to get a good coffee! Only bad thing was it took a week to find the place to begin with.
     
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    Ring the cafes in Vancouver. Ask if they sell beans, or who their supplier is.
     
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    Purebread ;)
     
  5. kylep

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    That's the joint that is doing Campos now right?
     
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    Is your hand pump a Handpresso? They have an ESE POD option. Pre ground Coffee in tissue pods. Best solution.
     
  8. piolet

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    Or take a bag with you? All sealed up of course
    I could totally not be bothered
     
  9. kylep

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    Yeah thinking of just taking a small bag, just easier if there’s somewhere to buy when we get over there.
     
  10. luvthabumps

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    Plenty of good quality "hipster" places in Van to buy coffee and beans.

    Assuming you'll be downtown try these two

    Revolver in Cambie St
    Timbertrain coffee Roasters in W Cordova ( a block from Revolver )

    You should be able to find something there.

    As I don't have a proper espresso machine at home here ( I have 3 in Aus so I was banned from buying any more) I buy my take aways from Parallel 49 in Kits or Beyond Bread in West Point Grey but if I'm heading into town, the above two would be my go to places. Most cafes sell beans just like in Aus. I don't think I'd buy from Save On - that would be akin to buying your beans from Safeways - can't imagine they'd be very fresh.

    The other place you can try is Bean Around the World. The name's a bit meh, but it's a local company that's been established 25 years. One of the founders is a dad at the school my daughter attends and he's super passionate about where he sources his beans. He still flies to South / central America and sources all the beans himself and they roast on the North Shore. He had about 20 stores but they sold them all and concentrate on coffee roasting now. It's not as specialist as Revolver and Timbertrain and the quality of baristas varies from store to store but the beans are good and you can buy online so you can get it shipped to wherever.

    Didn't check out the coffee scene in Kelowna when we were there in June so can't help there but it's a big city with a strong foodie culture - I'm sure there's a bunch of hipsters making espressos there as well ;)
     
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    You could do a lot worse than Kicking Horse Coffee (which, paradoxically, does its roasting and blending in Invermere and thus closer to Panorama than KH). They're not a tiny back yard operator, but far too small to be a Cafe Lavazza or Folgers either. Most BC supermarkets carry their line. I like their dark roast Kick Ass and Horsepower 454 blends.

    And tread carefully! Your post goes close to the "I won't be going back to Canada because I didn't find any good coffee on my two week trip" line. Cross it and you're banned!
     
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  12. luvthabumps

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    LOL

    I couldn't think of the KH brand. I know it has been mentioned here before and is highly regarded by many. haven't had it myself.
     
  13. kylep

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    I’m coming back after not finding much decent coffee on my last 3 week trip, but I’m more prepared :D
     
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    We purchase the KH brand when there and also another not sure what it is though. The KH brand is a pretty good drop, we even had friends bring us a few bags when we were living in Namibia and had trouble finding good coffee until a small roaster moved into the town we lived in. We then blended our own and had him roast to our specs :)
     
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    FFS surely you have better things to worry about .
     
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    He doesn't sound too worried to me
    Just enquiring about a decent cup
    Surely you have better things to worry about
     
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    Seriously, I rate the sweet espresso stuff from save on foods better than any of the KH coffee offerings. What I do find is that whilst many shops have ok beans and machines, the people using them are freakin hopeless.

    I think bringing beans from home borders on pretty ridiculous, and I dragged a ROK across the world.
     
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    I always enjoy these threads where opinions are posted as fact, and if your opinion is different to mine then its shit LOL
     
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    Not really , I am bored and waiting for more snow .
     
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    SDS! Worse than shit coffee!
     
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    Soooo here is my two sense... gonna get flamed but passing it on anyway.

    Starbucks!

    Now i get that Starbucks make shit coffee, however just cause they don't extract it right doesn't mean the beans they produce are shite.

    I recently had the pleasure (yes pleasure) of discovering that Starbucks has these fancy roasts not available in Australia.

    I sampled two of them. and LOVE them both one more than the other.

    Not sure whats offered in Van Starbucks stores but i had the two i sampled purchased and ground and sent to Australia by the roaster in Seattle.

    Worth a purchase of a small bag and then try the Kicking Horse one?
     
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    Consider yourself flamed.
     
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    Have a coffee!
     
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    Good idea ....... I just cleaned my machine .

     
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    I’ve had a few coffees at Tim Hortons and they are extremely ordinary

    I think my next visa won’t get approved now
     
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    100% agree!!!
     
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    ^^ yes agree, but amazing Canadian Maple donuts
     
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    Peaked Pies next door are also the bomb !
     
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    Yeah, those 2 got a lot of my business last time. We have 2 days there and staying quite close, but not until the end of the trip.

    Fun thread
     
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    Agree, Starbucks dark roast beans are excellent, Italian style, rich and produce a nice crema. Different to the hipster styles which are a tad dry and bitter for mine. Shame about the Starbucks "baristas" and the automated machines most of them have these days :crap:
     
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    The Aussie Pie Guy is better IMHO. Peaked have a store in the West End now as well and I was really disappointed when I dropped in a few weeks ago. Add to that 2 traditional meat pies (take away) were just under $20CAD with taxes. Fark!!

    Aussie Pie Guy has a food truck and a stand at the Whistler summer market. Was my go to morning snack whenever we were in Whistler over summer.
     
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    The coffee is bottom in Canada, but I'll go back, since the coffee is barley any better here on the Monaro.
     
  34. Ralph_Plow

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    Barley is way better, when fermented and distilled.....
     
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    My cafe-phile friends consider Mt Currie the best coffee joint in Whistler. I'd go there every day myself when in Whistler, but I kept getting lost and eventually became too nervous to leave the hotel.
     
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    I stayed in a cafe above Mt Currie. Scored.
     
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    To round this out for future searchers...
    Ended up having a bit left over at home before we left so we took those beans with us and that lasted for the week we had a house in Kelowna and were doing a cooked breakfast and hand ground & pumped espressos. Bought some of the Kicking Horse but didn't get around to using them over there. They made it home with us and are going ok in our machine at home, though not as good as the locally roasted stuff we normally use.

    As far as good coffee while we were away...
    - Big White had decent coffee in the base at the top of the Gondola. You just have to figure out how to ask for the right size and style to get it consistently
    - Maccas when we really needed it for a couple of early start drive days did well.
    - the bakery at SilverStar continues to be reasonably good, though we only had 1 day there
    - Dose Espresso in Revelstoke is the best coffee we had while we were away - as good as many quality Aus cafes. Though I think +1 said the soy wasn't great
    - Purebread in Whistler was quite good
    - Medina in Vancouver is really good for both coffee and food. The group found on our last trip and it continues to be favourite for our Kiwi friends who live there.
    - Blue Moose in Hope is ok, not great, but a good lunch stop when driving between Van and the inland ski areas
     
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    If you want an AUS style long black ask for an 8oz Americano 3/4 full. 8oz is the Aussie standard cup.

    Mt Currie at Whistler was 50m from our Christmas condo and is definitely the best in Whistler IMO. We get takeouts on the way home to Van on Sunday afternoon.

    Haven't been to Medina in Van but might check it out. Coffee today at Beyond Bread on 4th in Point Grey/Kits was fantastic as usual.

    Have been to the Blue Moose - interesting place but not for coffee.

    Heading to NYC on Tuesday and will be searching Aussie baristas
     
  40. kylep

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    Where in NYC? I stayed in Brooklyn last time and got some good recommendations, also a couple downtown. Should be some more now as well.
    Will dig out my notes
     
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    My son lives on Orchard Street in the Lower East Side. Dudley's at #85 on cnr Brooke and Orchard is an Aussie owned cafe serving great coffee and smashed avo on toasted sourdough. Vegemite if desperate. :thumbs:
     
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    My sister who lives in Baltimore gave me the tip to ask for extra shots in the coffee, worked too although in Starbucks I needed two extra shots.

    I brought some of the kicking horse stuff which was strong for a drip filter coffee so would be interested to see how it went in a proper espresso.
     
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    Bingo - we're staying at The Public on Chrystie only a handful of blocks away so that sounds like a winner.

    We're doing the Cathay redeye ( snagged some Business class seat through QFF ) which departs YVR at around 10.30 pm Monday night and arrives at JFK at 6.40am 'ish so we'll be looking for coffee and brekky by the time we get downtown.

    have a big hitlist for 3 days but Mrs LTB's birthday on Wed 24th will be spent having the 20 course omakase menu at the sushi counter at Sushi Nakazawa and then dinner at Buddakan in the meatpacking district. Baltahzaar ( a classic) also booked and would love to get to Ivan Ramen, Empellon Taqueria, Russ & Daughters Cafe as well :eek:

    Back on the redeye again Thursday night, then off to Whistler on the Friday to meet friends from Aus.

    Oh, also doing a Dine Out Vancouver dinner this Sunday night at Maenam in Kits (our favourite Thai) with David Thompson from Nahm (although I still like to think of him as being from Darley St Thai) Should be a great week of eating and drinking coming up

    And to top it off, we've had nearly 40cm of snow in the past couple of days at Whistler with another 2 feet on the way this weekend. Heading up early tomorrow :D
     
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    Bluestone lane is your friend for 'courghfee' in NYC
     
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    You can also get a reasonable coffee in Chelsea Markets. Freidmans and Ninth Street Espresso, the former also with a good breakfast selection.
     
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    Out of curiosity, called round to Peaked Pies in the West End today. Heading to Whistler tomorrow. Our 2 pies (you can eat in for the same price) cost CAD$15.60. Good pies as well. I guess "just under" may be considered a measure of relativeness but not sure it deserves a "fark!!"
     
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    Ryan at Real Deal Aussie Pies based in Kelowna does a solid job and his pies are $5, less for volume. Sells to several markets and delis around the Okanagan, plus at farmers markets in the warm weather seasons.
     
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    Just met a friend of mine who had a quick stop in Auckland airport, (hes a kiwi and lived in Vancouver a year or so) and his reaction to drinking a flat white was classic, he said he hadn't had a decent coffee at all in Van
    This made me want to read this thread