Opinion Crispy’s 18/19 Honeymoon Planning

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  1. Crispy013

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    I’ve been given the task of planning my partner and I’s honeymoon, and I’m looking for some cool ideas, places, activities, etc that I can somehow jam into a cohesive trip.

    Due to my partner being a teacher, we’re really stuck with the Christmas holidays to make anything decent time wise out of the trip. So we’re looking at leaving just after Christmas this year (say 26th) and then return before school comes back near Aus day. Will give us roughly 4/5-ish weeks. Timing wise, the logical major Northern Hemisphere destinations will all be right in the middle of winter - this is actually good, because we’re both keen to get some snowboarding in on the trip. But, my partner is also hoping for some relaxation on a beach somewhere, so this starts to make things difficult.

    Having said the above re: timing and wanting to make the most of the honeymoon by travelling overseas, it sort of left us with 2 options...do we go East to North America, or West to Europe?

    The only ‘non negotiable’ really for the trip was to have a week in Japan to visit one of our favourite lodges in Hakuba. So I’m mindful of fitting this in...which I guess would be best right at the end to hit Japan in the sweet spot of late Jan.

    My initial investigations led me heavily into the Europe sphere...Switzerland, Norway (Lapland), Iceland, Paris, etc, etc. But, soon the $$$ started to weigh on my mind. I guess you could swing South East Asia on the way to tick the relaxing beach aspect for a week...maybe the Maldives :rolleyes:.

    But more recently I’ve really liked the look of Mexico. Not so much Cancún, but further south to Tulum, Maya Riviera, etc. So, this got me thinking of a NA trip of sorts. Currently, this is my preferred itinerary:

    Sydney to LA or San Fran or Vegas
    3 nights
    LA/San Fran/Vegas to Mexico (Cancún/Tulum)
    7 nights
    Mexico to New York City
    5 nights
    NYC to Vancouver or Calgary (drive powder highway to see Banff/Lake Louise/etc)
    Say 7 nights
    Vancouver to Tokyo (Hakuba)
    7 nights
    Tokyo to Sydney

    At this stage it’s purely drawing board stuff, but I’m keen to hear others thoughts on the above or other cool suggestions that would be cool as a honeymoon. :love:
     
  2. Legs Akimbo

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    Canada/US with a stop off in Hawaii or Fiji.
     
  3. Kletterer

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    Honeymoon ? Gotta be Europe , Dolomites - Venice- Greek Islands.
     
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  4. Zimbooo

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    Throw Zermatt in there.......romantic sleigh ride below the Matterhorn followed by chocolate fondue. Mmmmmmm
    Edit: By the way Crispy.......congratulations. 25 years ago for us.
     
  5. Ozgirl

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    IS it warm beach weather then?

    Needs something closer to the equator at that time of the year!
     
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    Depends how warm you want it. After a couple of weeks at ski resorts 13 degrees would feel warm.
     
  7. absentskier

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    Mexico is a good option if in NA. Very easy from LA.

    Ah, no!
     
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    ummmm no.

    25deg plus for me thanks

    Cancun is 24 right now at 10pm
     
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    Would’ve have loved Greek isles for a couple weeks...but maybe sometime closer to June...

    I heard that Greece in Jan is rainy??
     
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    On the way home. We really enjoyed our quick Fiji stopover, and it allowed us to retime ourselves which helped with jet lag. Fiji also has very cheap luggage storage at the airport for ski bags. Fiji airway planes though are pretty sucky for the overnighter.
     
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    Really liking the look of Seychelles now...anyone been?
     
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    Congrats!!
    If you do NA, aim for SF rather than LA. LA is ugly, dry and distinctly unromantic. SF a much nicer place.
     
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    Congrats to you and your partner Crispy!

    I'm another vote for Europe, great culture, amazing skiing and a potential stop over in Thailand for the beach fix. Are you 100% set on the Japan week?
     
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    Cheers. Yeah I'm somewhat leaning towards Europe now. Just playing around with skyscanner to see how flights would work and rough $$. Japan is not an absolute must do...just a nice to have at the end considering we both enjoy it so much.

    Europe wise I'm fairly green about. Have done travelling the summer, but nothing winter wise. Also have no idea about regions and associated mountains. But Zermatt does look very nice and romantic. Just trying to figure out a rough plan - i.e where to fly in and out of. At this stage, maybe land Milan and travelling north into Switzerland and fly out Zurich...maybe even Paris. Still too many variables.

    Any recommendations for skiing in Europe?
     
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    If you are travelling around Chistmas, what about a few days in Leavenworth in USA?
     
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    Depending on how much you have to spend New Year is exy in European ski resorts. You could consider skiing in Hakuba at the start of the trip, then fly to Geneva and get the train up to Zermatt. Train to Milan then Florence then Venice, fly out of Venice. Maybe a stopover in somewhere hot on the way home.

    www.skyscanner.com.au
    Cheapest $3563 Melbourne to Tokyo
    Tokyo to Geneva, Venice to Bangkok, Bangkok to Melbourne.
    You would have to add a side trip to a beach out of Bangkok.
     
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    Would a Round the World ticket be an option...?
     
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    I've skied Zermatt and it was great, but so damn expensive! The Arlberg region (including St Anton, Lech, Zurrs) in Austria is huge and not too far from Zurich airport, could be another option. Or staying in Innsbruck city and skiing the resorts around the valley.
     
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    Yeah I'm trying to broadly structure it to avoid having Christmas/NY in a ski resort. Plus I'm guessing some ski resorts might not be so snow sure at this time.
    So rough plan for the Europe option was:
    Sydney to Maldives/Seychelle/some other romantic island (1 week: 26th Dec - 2/3 Jan)
    Maldives/Seychelles to Milan/Geneva/Zurich (2 weeks: 3 Jan - 17th Jan)
    Milan/Geneva/Zurich to Tokyo (1 week: 17th Jan - 25th Jan)
    Tokyo to Sydney.
     
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    Sounds like a plan
     
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    Tough life ;)
     
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    This..............Around the World ticket will be considerably better $$$ value than piecing together locations and using different airlines.
    Finnair offer a good one (oneworld codesharing). Ie You can fly into one destination and out of another in each continent.
    Australia / LA / NYC / Europe (e.g. into Paris, then out of another city further east such as Venice etc) / Tokyo / Australia for about $2k. If you wanted to add in a warm destination at the end you could for example add a flight from Tokyo to Thailand and fly home from Thailand.
     
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    Yep at that time of year RTW will be your best option price wise.

    5 years ago I had a free bed in Schladming, or whistler...

    departing on the 20th Dec to the US (always have to stay a night or two in SF) was$2900, to Frankfurt was $3200.

    RTW was $2400, so i did that instead. a week at both and a side trip to a a couple of other friends in Europe and my SF friend. 3 weeks 2 weeks skiing and visiting with 4 friends. WINNING
     
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    Something like...

    Aust/pacific island (cook or similar) or mexico/ from there to NYC then Milan/Geneva/Zurich then tokyo/home
     
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    RTW tickets appear exxy from some of my dummy bookings...like $4-5k pp. Hmm, might be the time of year.
     
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    This is one area where online booking sites don't work well (in regard to getting the best price). If you enter your stops into a search, the engine will collect one way ticket prices between the destinations and tally it up.......super expensive. You really need to talk to a RTW specialist IMO. There are specific RTW fares which are significantly cheaper.
    Have a look at / talk to someone at:
    https://www.roundabouttravel.com.au
    http://www.statravel.com.au/round_the_world.htm

    Edit: Funny enough, I just found this article which explains things well.
    http://www.traveller.com.au/how-to-book-roundtheworld-airline-tickets-are-they-worth-buying-got8bf
     
  27. Funky

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    This is very similar to the honeymoon my wife and I did... straight to Vegas and then to Mexico... please please please do what I wanted to do... get your marriage vows renewed by Elvis.
     
  28. Ozgirl

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    Nope not time of year.

    I was traveling at the same time.

    Zimboo is right online booking engines are crap at RTW.
     
  29. Ozgirl

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    That article explains it spot on!

    Where is that 'do I need a ravel agent thread' lol
     
  30. Funky

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    I think I said the same in the do I need a Travel Agent Thread... even if you can book a proper round the world ticket online, still best to go through a person (even if you work out the actual flights yourself).
     
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    Yeah but you don't need it for multi sector. I just remember someone saying that!
     
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    We had our honeymoon in Bora Bora, and there is an Air France flight a day that goes straight up the guts to the US (I think it was LAX). Tahiti is a bitch to get to, and it's the kind of thing you'd do as a one-off for something like a honeymoon. My wife is also a teacher, so we had similar restrictions as you (although we went in April school hols and took some extra time at the end). For 4-5 weeks I'd suggest something like 7 nights in Bora Bora/Mangareva/Moorea/Raiatea, you'll need to do at least 1 night either side in Papeete, then take that Air France flight up to the USA/Nth America and continue your trip from there. IMO Hawaii and Fiji are for any time, Tahiti is for a special occasion.
     
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    Bora Bora was exactly what place i was thinking but failed me the other night!
     
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    We were thinking about doing a loop of Tahiti --> Hawaii --> Japan then back to AUS but we didnt have enough time to get it done.
     
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    nope
    I’ve done greek island travel in Dec / Jan, and it’s actually cold
    nice in other ways not involving beaches
    we did Penang on the way back from Zermatt
     
  36. Crispy013

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    Going to look down the RTW option I think. Interesting reading regarding the variability in prices if you do it yourself. Might just be the case that I get a travel agent involved for this one.
     
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    IMO Europe is for Winter or Summer - not both. I.e. if you are going in winter, forget going to the beach or Greek Islands...

    We did 5-6 weeks in USA / Mexico for our Honeymoon. Our itinerary went something like:

    LA: 4 nights
    Tulum: 9 nights
    New York: 8 Nights
    San Fran: 2 nights
    Vegas: 3 nights
    Jackson Hole: 1 night
    Grand Targhee: 7 nights
    Jackson Hole 2 nights.

    If I were doing the same trip again with hindsight, i'd make the following changes:

    2-3 less nights in Tulum
    2-3 more nights in San Fran
     
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