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Day visit drive in a minibus

Discussion in 'Mt Buller' started by Shinboner, Jul 2, 2007.

  1. Shinboner

    Shinboner First Runs

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    We have a group of 16 travelling via a 22 seater minibus on July 27 for a day trip. We are comming from WA.
    None of us has ever driven in mountain country.
    Should we park at Mansfield and catch another bus from there or should we drive to the carpark (Horsehill I think?) and shuttle from there. This is where we are picking up our gear. What are our requirements if we drive to Horsehill in a minibus and how safe is it.

    Any suggestions would be appreciated.

    cheers
    Sambo
     
  2. Hunter

    Hunter Part of the Furniture Endless Winter Ski Pass: Gold

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    Re: Day vist drive in a minbus

    The road is a safe and easy drive, you will need to carry chains and know how to put them on that is all, you can hire in Mansfield and they will show you how to fit them, more often than not you will not have to fit chains on Buller.
     
  3. HiLo

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    Re: Day vist drive in a minbus

    The driver of a 22 seater bus requires a Hazardous Area Authority endorsement to his/her licence to drive up the Buller Road in winter. This involves a four day training course, so it's unlikely your driver will have it. This applies at most other resorts as well. (Not Lake Mountain.)

    Details here.

    (Guess who's currently studying for his bus licence? [​IMG] )
     
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  4. Shinboner

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    Re: Day vist drive in a minbus

    Thanks for that, I did not relise that was the case.

    Cheers
    Sambo
     
  5. Shinboner

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    Re: Day vist drive in a minbus

    It seems as though we will have to park our minibus at Mansfield
    and travel up from there. We have booked our equipment hire pickup for 7.30am at Horsehill. We should probably change this to the Village, yes?. Also what are options from Mansfield for 15 people by bus, what are the costs return.
    Cheers
    Sambo
     
  6. HiLo

    HiLo Old n' Crusty

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    Re: Day vist drive in a minbus

    I think it's time for a contribution from someone who knows current Buller logistics better than me. [​IMG]
     
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    Re: Day vist drive in a minbus

    If you call mansfield bus lines they will help you with timetables and costs up the mountain.

    Or click here

    http://www.buslines.com.au/mmbl/
     
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  8. tickers75

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    Shinboner if you are picking up your hire gear at Horsehill you can catch Horsehill lift straight up to the mountain and start enjoying the snow straight away but if any of the 22 in your party haven't skied/snowboarded before or have lessons booked in you should catch the free shuttle from Horsehill to the village and get a feel for the mountain.
     
  9. Shinboner

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    Hi tickers75,
    I think we will need to get to the village as we have a number who have never seen snow before. They are a group of 15yr old basketballers and we are finishing our BBall tour of Vic with a day in the snow. We will have lots of fun but not much in the way of snowboard skills. We have a lesson booked for 9.00am and will arrive in Mansfield around 6.30am . We had booked our gear pickup for 7.30am at Horsehill but I may have to change this now and pickup at the village at a slightly later time. You guys don't have a bball team up there do you. We could fit in another game.

    Cheers
    Shinboner
     
  10. kyrano

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    Cheapest option is to park at Mirimbah (toll gate...free of charge), then catch a prebooked MMBL bus from there to Cow Camp. Even if you had an alpine endorsement (I've got one), by the time you pay your 'per head' entry, and a taxi from the Skating Rink (if Horse Hill isn't running) it works out alot cheaper...I've done it the last two years I've taken school groups to Buller

    A suggestion for the kids snowboarding...wrist guards for beginners / novices.
     
  11. CarveMan

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    As HiLo has pointed out, without the endorsement and chains, which I doubt you will have either, you will need to switch buses at Mansfield or Mirimbah. I'd recommend hiring gear there too as it means only one stop.

    MMBL is the bus line that runs up to Buller from Mansfield and your only option. Give them a call to make arrangements.

    http://www.buslines.com.au/mmbl/
     
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  12. Shinboner

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    Thanks for all the info,
    I have just arrived back from training the boys, they are looking forward to the snow day more than anything else, this may not fair well for the BBall though. Anyway I will take your advice and we will take our minibus up from central Melbourne to either Mansfield or Mirimbah and bus it from there. I hope the weather gods are with us on the 27th.

    Cheers
    Shinboner
     
  13. skiflat

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    Re: Day vist drive in a minbus

    Oh no, so now the rest of us have to be stuck behind a bus going way under the speed limit [​IMG]
     
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    Re: Day vist drive in a minbus

    You can always arrange for you ski/ board lessons for the group to be on Burnt Hut so that you can still hire at Horse Hill Hire and then head up the Horse Hill chair and meet your instructor.
     
  15. HiLo

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    Re: Day vist drive in a minbus

    [​IMG]
     
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  16. cruisin along

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    Re: Day vist drive in a minbus

    I already have a bus licence but did not know about the 4 day training course.

    Details please HiLo if you can.
     
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  17. HiLo

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    Re: Day vist drive in a minbus

    It's a Victorian thing CA. Details are in that pdf file I linked to above. I don't know what the law is in NSW. It could be quite a bit different because the roads to the NSW resorts aren't generally as challenging as those to the Vic resorts.

    But I expect the law would also apply to drivers with non-Vic licences visiting Vic resorts.
     
  18. wolly

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    Re: Day vist drive in a minbus

    the MMBL BUS FROM MIRIMBAH IS $37 RETURN FOR ADULTS
    $25 RETURN FOR KIDS UNDER 16
    PARK YOUR BUS THERE AND GET THE BUS.
    have you looked into the option of getting the bus all the way from melbourne? Save the hassle of driving and renting a mini bus
     
  19. Shinboner

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    Re: Day vist drive in a minbus

    hi Wolly,
    we are travelling playing Bball for 9 days prior to the day at Buller so the minibus is essential and when we head back West we just leave the bus at the airport, this saves us some dollars as we do not have to pay shuttle costs to and from the airport for 15 people. The cost in petrol for the minibus to Mirimbah is alot cheaper than paying for 15 heads on a bus from Melbourne to Buller for the day, even when factoring in the cost from Mirimbah to Buller. Our only issue is linking it all together. Should be fun getting 10 15yr old boys up at 3.30am on the Friday morning, especially after they have only finished playing BBall at 9.30pm the night before.

    Cheers
    Shinboner
     
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    Re: Day vist drive in a minbus

    buk buk!
     
  21. kyrano

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    Re: Day vist drive in a minbus

    Crusin along...the alpine hazardous endorsement that is required to drive any vehicle registered to carry more then 12 people, is a course conducted by DECA (Shepparton), with the course being based in Bright. For a 'light rigid' endorsement, up to 8 tonnes (about a 28 - 30 seater) the 3 and a half day course involves 4 people and alot of practial work driving up and down Mt Hotham and Mt Buffalo. It's a fairly costly course but well worth it. I did the course a two or three years ago though the school I work at and would thoroughly recommend it to anyone driving even a small mini bus with passengers, as I've seen a few real wheel drive vehicles (mini buses included) bounce off guard rails through driver error.
     
  22. HiLo

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    Re: Day vist drive in a minbus

    The VicRoads document linked to above says there are three other organisations that run such courses as well.

    I'd hate to see anyone without such extra training tackling the Hotham or Baw Baw roads in a blizzard with a busload of school kids.
     
  23. colino

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    Re: Day vist drive in a minbus

    Regarding the original topic, I would dump the bus in Mansfield, get all of the gear hired there (and lift pass should also be possible), and bus stright up there. If the bus drops you off at Horse Hill car park, it is only a quick shuttle to the Village.

    Enjoy - looks like you picked a good year for it!!
     
  24. Shinboner

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    Re: Day vist drive in a minbus

    Hi Colino,
    We have already booked our lift tickets and hire under the schools program and I have changed our pickup of gear to the village. We may have been able to save some money doing it as we arrived, however this saves any hassle and we know all our costs up front. Our newbie lesson is at 9.00am and we arrive in the village around 8.00am. it will be great if the snow keeps falling for the next few weeks, the boys will have a ball.
    One question are sunnies fine for one day or subject to conditions may we need goggles.

    Cheers
    Shinboner
     
  25. DeesOnSkis

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    Re: Day vist drive in a minbus

    Highly recommend goggles unless its a clear, sunny day.
     
  26. Shinboner

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    Re: Day vist drive in a minbus

    Thanks all,
    This is a great informative site for those of us with little snow experience.
    I hope to run into a few of you up there (well not literally of course)

    Cheers
    Shinboner