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Question Dinner Plain snow chains??

Discussion in 'Hotham & Dinner Plain' started by LJ1981, Apr 5, 2021.

  1. LJ1981

    LJ1981 First Runs

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    Hi all, just a quick question, am I required to have diamond snow chains if only going to DP, I’m taking my family there in July, we’ve been up there before and had no issues because we took our SUV but this time we got family coming over from Perth so I’ll have to take my sports car as well and it’s hard to find diamond chains that fit it.
     
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    cqen2l Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    If you’re travelling from Harrietville, yes. Koenig chains fit my Rex STI, bugger all clearance but doable.
     
  3. currawong

    currawong Old but not so Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    you may not be legally required to carry them if going via omeo, but IMHO that doesn't mean that you can be guaranteed not to need them.
     
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    chriscross One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Never checked via Omeo access. Only camera makes sure you have paid entry/access fee. From Bright/ Harrietville might well be different.
     
  5. LJ1981

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    I’ve got Megane RS and it’s lowered, could you tell me what Koenig type do you run, I’m thinking of trying pewag servo sport it’s 7mm or Koening K7 also 7mm if they don’t fit my other option is spider K summit but I’m not sure if it’s ok to use them going from Omeo to DP.
     
  6. LJ1981

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    I definitely want to have something on hand just in case I need it but I’m just wondering if I could use something else other than diamond chains (spider style K summit) on the way to DP via Omeo, it’s just because my car has not much clearance for chains.
     
  7. LJ1981

    LJ1981 First Runs

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    I don’t mind going via Omeo, do you know what’s legal requirement in regards to snow chains only to DP??
     
  8. cqen2l

    cqen2l Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    Not required, but, it can snow down to near Omeo. The Koneg chain will work for you up to the 10mm. Why you would lower an RS is beyond me. They’re already on rails, and probably a better ride than the STI.
     
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    My understanding is that you need to carry them & now irrespective of which way you are going they have to be diamond pattern.
     
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  10. LJ1981

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    I lowered it to improve handling and drive feeling even more, I do some track days and hill runs with it so yeah that’s why, plus I moved from Perth to Mel and snow chain problem was never on the cards We have VW Tiguan so usually we take that up to snow (we went to Falls, Hotham, Baw Baw) no problem there but because my family is coming from Perth we have to take two cars so that’s why I need something for RS.
     
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  11. LJ1981

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    So you recon even if I go via Omeo to just DP chains still have to be diamond pattern??
     
  12. currawong

    currawong Old but not so Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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  13. LJ1981

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    DP says nothing about diamond patterned chains. This could be a stupid question but is DP considered to be under Mt Hotham because it’s not on that list with rest of Vic mountains??
     

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    teckel "I'm not a cat" Ski Pass: Gold

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    Doesn't need to be Hotham. This winter only diamond pattern required for all mountains. So, forget the spider chains. You won't be able to hire 5mm chains anywhere. You'd have to buy them. Another option would be to switch your car with a mate for the week.
     
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  15. LJ1981

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    What’s the smallest diamond chains you can get?? I don’t mind buying as long as they fit, so far I found 7mm to be smallest.
     
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    teckel "I'm not a cat" Ski Pass: Gold

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    7mm as far as I know. I thought you mentioned something about 5mm?
    I doubt that anything under 7mm could even hold the car. Also what size are your tyres? You'll also find a rim size of 20" or more generally won't take diamond pattern chains.
     
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  17. LJ1981

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    It’s 235/40/18, Hopefully 7mm can fit
     
  18. teckel

    teckel "I'm not a cat" Ski Pass: Gold

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    Another option (other than swapping cars with a mate) is for a couple of the party to catch the bus https://www.snowballexpress.com.au/
    Not ideal, but you may not have a choice.
     
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  19. teckel

    teckel "I'm not a cat" Ski Pass: Gold

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    If it's lowered, does the car body come over the top of the tyre? If so, they may be impossible to fit, unless you take the wheel off, fit the chain and then put it back on again.
    Can you reach the back of the tyre from the outside? Can you squeeze your fingers over the back of the tyre and run them around a bit? Try a kids or woman's fingers if yours are too fat. As in, is there more than 7mm clearance?
     
  20. cqen2l

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    My STi is 245/40R18. You need to be on clear ground for fitting but these work.
    Roof rack city sell them. Go down to a store and ask to try fitting before purchase.
     
  21. teckel

    teckel "I'm not a cat" Ski Pass: Gold

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    That's a 10mm chain. It's not the size of the tyre that's critical here. It's the clearance between the tyre and car body and other bits and pieces that matters. I only asked him the tyre size to ensure it could actually take a chain (ie: not a 20" rim), not whether they would work on his car.
     
  22. Donzah

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    I'd just park the sports car below the snowline and do shuttle runs in the decent car....

    Surely there is a bus from DP to Hotham?
     
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    I think the OP is only talking about getting to DP in the first place
     
  24. teckel

    teckel "I'm not a cat" Ski Pass: Gold

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    Shuttle runs from Omeo or Harrietville may be possible?
     
  25. Donzah

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    Thats what I meant.
    Leave the sports car below the snowline.
     
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  26. currawong

    currawong Old but not so Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    but then you talked about dp-hotham bus which I didn't see as relevant to the question
     
  27. Donzah

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    Well it is...If you get to DP without a car.
     
  28. currawong

    currawong Old but not so Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    bugger of a shuttle to harrietville
     
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    Omeo to DP normally you would not require to fit chains for 4WD, however, a couple of times per season, after big storms you would need to fit diamond chains and you should as many a 4WD have ended up sliding off the road on bad days. In 20 years I have only fitted chains once on the Omeo to DP. for my previous car I have used specially purchased 6mm(?) chains on my minimal clearance A4. They are dog to fit and I have cursed them many times as it's very difficult to get your hand to the back.
     
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    That's the bit that concerns me. Even if he has enough clearance for 7mm chains, they can still be almost impossible to put on with lowered suspension ie: getting your hand to the back. I once demoed it to a customer who had a similar problem - connect at the side, then rotate the chain until it's where it needs to be. I managed it, but with his larger hands I doubt he would have managed. Anyway, after that, he decided not to rent, but to go home. LOL
     
  31. FatBoyDave

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    Once saw a guy in a Shelby Mustang up at Hotham pull a trolley jack out of the boot to jack the car up to fit chains.
     
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    Yep have done that...
     
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    He'll be fitting to the front wheels so has some latitude there. I have similar issues with clearance but it is doable.
     
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    Little bit of 1"x 2" wood about 4 " long in your chain bag. Place immediately behind or in front of wheels then roll up onto them. Makes chain fitting much easier.
     
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  36. LJ1981

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    Thanks for all the replies, I’m going to test fit 7mm Pewag chains tomorrow, fingers crossed they fit.
     
  37. LJ1981

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    Ok, just picked up Pewag 7mm, we tried fitting them and they fit, very tight but there is enough clearance, thanks for all the replies and feed back.
     

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    Hopefully I’m not “teaching my grandmother to suck eggs” here, but make sure you are well practiced in fitting them at home. If they are tight now, you may find you have dramas getting them on as the chains may shrink slightly when it’s colder. An uneven muddy road shoulder in the freezing cold won’t help things either, so a thin pair of gloves and a small tarp or plastic sheet can help.
     
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    Already have gloves and drop sheet in a car, I’m getting two pieces of wood cut so I can roll front wheels onto that, makes it a lot easier
     
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