Does ski patrol confiscate passes?

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  1. The_Heat

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    Does ski patrol actually confiscate passes anymore? I am sick of guys going Mach 10 down front valley, and nothing being done about it. Has ski patrol lost their ability to confiscate passes. Maybe because these speedsters have Epic passes and they can’t take Epic passes! When was the last time anyone heard of Perisher ski patrol taking or cancelling someone’s pass? If they do confiscate passes, what does someone have to do to get it taken? No point having slow zones and signs if no one patrols and enforces it !!!
     
  2. Jacko4650

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    The cams indicated ski patrol folk all over Perisher front valley over the weekend. I skiid about 70 days last year and you would always find them being very strict early at front valley but less so as they had to spread out through the resort. Front Valley can be a bit weird early in the season as good skiers have nowhere else to go hard, others are showing off, whilst there are plenty that believe their skills exceed their on-snow performance. Unless I have to, I avoid front valley for fear of being taken out, not so much by people going flat out but by beginners doing unimaginable things ie: unpredictable, therefore given a wide berth. It is not always their fault, as it can be unbelievably hard to master for some and outright scary for others.
     
  3. Seafm

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    And I was one of them in 2013:eek:
     
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  4. easty

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    With the electronic ticketing systems passes are no longer physical confiscated. They are either cancelled or suspended for a period. Patrol take note of the ticket number then contact the ticket office and a hold can be put on the pass. Warnings can also be recorded in the ticket system. I am not sure if they a still doing this but a few years ago Perisher had a board at the bottom of the quad indicating how many skiers had been warned and how many passes had be cancelled.
     
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  5. snowgum

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    Hope Hotham are doing this on Slush Gully /Vill Loop this year. The degree of show offiness (esp cutting beginners off) reaches plague proportions some weekends.

    ...and fwiw: while I don't mind so much these (mostly) teen+ heroes having a go at me, I take offence when they do it in front of my much slower wife on teles and even my 9 year old son.

    I dub these dudes, low life scum! /:-/)
     
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  7. The_Heat

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    I saw packs of ski patrollers on a recent trip to a US resort. Anyone going over a certain speed was pulled up and warned by a patroller. These guys were guns, they would even chase down anyone not following their instruction to slow down. There was just so many of them. I wonder if the US resorts have a ratio or somekind of minimum ski patroller number, and if Perisher has the same ratio or number (or less).
    How do resorts work out how many patrollers they need on any given day?
     
  8. snowgum

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    Be interesting to compare ticket strikes / warnings per capita in NthAm vs Oz. or injury rates.

    Our runs are so crowded at peak times, our patrollers should probably be even tougher than in the U.S.

    Often feels like it's all up to the friends of the offendee to remonstrate. Shouldn't be like that with patrollers around on a busy run.
     
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    They do give out warnings. Usually they are a friendly warning, but if people persist they do have the power to suspend passes. They also have power to pull a pass if there is a dangerous accident, bad behaviour etc.

    However, mostly this is not done by ski patrol, but by the "yellow jackets", who are the safety officers. At the moment patrol are doing this, but normally in peak season they have dedicated safety officers.

    The worst time I have seen was last year when interschools had the NSW races on front valley at 9am. That was an excuse for lots of racers to GS race turns and skills on FV for 30minutes before going to the event. It was a little crazy :eek:
     
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    It’s the nobs who cut up kids that get to me. I do my best to shield mine by skiing behind them and offering some protection from the bellends, but still get close calls. Dropping in on kids waiting for the skicross or the mini parks is another trick of what seem to be mostly snowboarders. Woe betide any of them that do collect either of my kids due to twattish behaviour, a cancelled pass may be the least of their worries.
     
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    @Normo you have a hater.
     
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    You had me until *mostly snowboarders.
    Twattish behaviour doesn't discriminate
     
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  13. Kopite

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    Very true. Twats can ride skis as easily as snowboarders. My few issues last year was snowboarders, late in the day in the parks flying through cutting up kids and taking no commo sense precautions. Probably tainted my views somewhat!
     
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    Problem with that is people skiing up behind you cant always see the child in front of you and as they turn ahead of you they suddenly encounter a child.
     
  15. HSVGuy

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    I like skiing fast but wouldn't in FV or any other beginner area. On blue and above slopes you can be reasonably confident of what people are going to do, but you just can't in beginner areas. You have to ski/board to the ability of those around you rather than just you own ability.
     
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    Um if you caannot see the child they are very close to the parent. Why are you turning that close in front of someone? Oh so you can claim you were the downhill skier when you take them out. Nice! :nono:
     
  17. Arsas

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    So does anybody actually know of a pass being cancelled? or is it just a threat that seems to keep most people in line?
    I heard last year about the snowboarder who wrote an article in an independent magazine last year that was bagging out perisher lifties, he had his pass cancelled. But apparently his pass was given to him as a sort of sponsorship deal.
    I have never actually heard definitely that a pass has been cancelled completely or for a certain number of days for dangerous skiing. Its the same as I have heard of pass cancellation for giving season passes to a friend to use but don't know definitely that it happens
     
  18. Ozgirl

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    Yes people's passes have been cancelled.

    Mostly it is 3 strikes you are out - recorded electronically.

    But some are straight out cancelled.
     
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    I beg to differ...
     
  20. Doonks

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    have you sent your questions and concerns to Perisher?
     
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    My daughter had a little talking to from ski patrol this week after ignoring dad and going hell for leather down front valley. The one that got her was great - explained why you have to be careful especially on front valley and there are other runs to go faster on. For a seven year old, sometimes it sticks more coming from a stranger in uniform than it does from your parents. She was good as gold after that!
     
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    Because people ski in close proximity to each other.
    There is no imaginary force field around you.
     
  23. base615

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    I was cruising down FV the weekend before last just after 8:30, so not even at a crowded time. A woman skiing at circa 300mph smacked my straight across the back with a ski pole. No ‘sorry’, no slowing down, nothing. Hurt like buggery as it was and a foot to the left could have caused a serious injury.

    The same day, about 10 minutes later, I was on the V8 and saw a skier going no-turn straight down FV in a tuck hit a snowboarder from behind, sending his skis flying 50ft in either direction.

    No common sense and a danger to all involved.
     
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    Fact is some people ski beyond their limits of control.
    As mentioned above, people ski in close proximity to one another, simply saying everyone should not ignores the fact that many will regardless.
    You can be a victim and get hit or you can keep your eyes peeled and your ears open and skiing around ears covered is not exercising due caution to the prevailing hazards.

    51 years of skiing and I have never hit anyone and never had anyone hit my unintentionally.
    I was taught from age 5 onward to be acutely aware of everyone around me, including who is behind me when I take off down the hill.
    Drilled into me constantly by my father and it has saved me from being a victim.

    One snow boarder tried to take me down intentionally on summit black and him and I were the only ones on the run, but he regretted that action when we got to bottom and he will never do it again, at least not at Mt Buller.
     
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    Blardy hell!!
    That is awful!
     
  26. The_Heat

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    And then there is night skiing on Front Valley.....Never seen anyone being told to slow down, never even seen ski patrol on front valley for night skiing. Or maybe I have it wrong, maybe night skiing is about going as fast as you can in semi-darkness on a freshly groomed green run! I see they do remove the “slow down” sign and chicane before the V8.
     
  27. DidSurfNowSki

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    I'm sure no one on this forum has ever had a pass cancelled, particularly when skiing overseas :rolleyes:. I'm sure it was a language barrier thing :)
     
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    There are less people, less beginners, less need for speed control, but patrollers are there and would not hesitate to warn someone if going to fast.

    You can also go to their hut and let them know and they can watch people you say are causing issues but this takes commitment from you to stand around and identify them.
     
  29. J_busworth

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    My brother once got caught gunning it down Front Valley during Night Skiing. Sole Ski Patrol told him that if he went that fast during the day he would probably get put on "The List" or something like that, then told him to have a great time.
     
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    I've been threatened to be put on "the data base".
    my crime.
    skinning up for freshies before the lifts where open.
    he thought I had jumped ropes etc.
    explained myself, shooting straight
    bumped into the same Patrol later in the day and he asked where did i get to etc.
    thumbs up .
     
  31. HSVGuy

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    One time I was on one of the first chairs of the Summit quad and therefore one of the first down Zali's. They hadn't put any of the slow zone signs or anything else up yet and I straight lined it down the last part of Zali's (in control and no one else coming down around me so while fast, still safe). While I was waiting near the bottom of the lift for the other person I was with a mountain ops guy comes and the following conversation is had:
    Him: "Do you know how to turn?"
    Me: "Yes"
    Him: "How bout you put some in next time then."
    Me: "Ok"

    The best part was despite thinking I'd already turned my GoPro off I still had it running so I got the conversation on video. The not so good part is upon later looking at the video he was the guy putting up the slow zone signs. As a disclaimer, I wouldn't be doing that on front valley (regardless of how many people were around) or on Zali's if there were other people around.