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Driving in Japan: The hazards

Discussion in 'Japan' started by Sandy, Oct 14, 2013.

  1. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I did the same when I booked with budget via toocoo.
    2000 yen a day dearer going direct.
     
  2. Crispy013

    Crispy013 One of Us

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    Tocoo is hard to beat
     
  3. M_G

    M_G M_G_ = Make skiing great again Ski Pass: Gold

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    Interesting. I've booked through Budget Nagano and found them quite competitive. I just said Toyota because I've used them elsewhere.
     
  4. argento

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    LOL

    Your going to miss the Hokkaido tour mate. I´d like to see you behind the wheel in Japan once (no more)
     
  5. Tonester

    Tonester Lift Line Nazi Ski Pass: Gold

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    Location based pricing, maybe?
     
  6. PMG

    PMG One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    If you use your Hertz Gold Plus Rewards membership number you can get 10 or 15% off at Toyota. Can't remember the exact discount now. Born2ski discovered it a few years ago. Toyota are now affiliated with ToCoo also. Still quite expensive through them in areas of Honshu though compared to Nissan, Budget, Times etc.
     
  7. M_G

    M_G M_G_ = Make skiing great again Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yeah, quite likely.
     
  8. Born2ski

    Born2ski Part of the Furniture

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    15%. And there's a host of other discounts Toyota offer if you use their Japanese website that aren't offered on the English site.
     
  9. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    mannyk One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    confirmation from Budget..
    Quota condition

    [​IMG]
    Vehicle type
    JS JS class
    Pick-up
    Nagano Station


    02/16/2018 08:00

    Return
    Nagano Station


    02/17/2018 17:00

    Estimated charge (Tax included)

    Hours of rental
    33hours
    Basic charge
    ¥14,580
    Online reservation
    25% off
    Campaign
    25% discount on online reservation
    25% off
    options

    • ¥0
    Disclaimer compensation fee
    ¥2,808
    One-Way fee
    None
    Total
    ¥13,743
     
  11. mannyk

    mannyk One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Did tick the 4wd box, no mention of this in confirmation, I assume its 4wd
     
  12. argento

    argento Hard Yards

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    Is taking out insurance with a car rental in Japan cumpulsory? To my surprise, I was told it's not
     
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  13. Born2ski

    Born2ski Part of the Furniture

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    My understanding is that all Japanese rental cars must come with a minimum level of insurance, similar to Australia. The extra you can choose to pay will cover the excess(compensation coverage) and the N.O.C (Non Operating Cost).
     
  14. mannyk

    mannyk One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    I paid it, just to save any undue hassels, I do have my own travel Ins, which covers excess, for the little extra it seems worth it, with the language barrier..
     
  15. argento

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    ok, so car rental place in Otaru have replied to a japanese friend saying....

    1) GPS system is (understandably) in Japanese.
    2) no English speaking staff at the place.

    I don´t really need a GPS system right? I could always dowload maps these days via google maps (or so I hear).

    Do you think number 2 could be an issue?
     
  16. Soup kitchen

    Soup kitchen First Runs

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    No problem. i always take a good detailed map in english
     
  17. Tonester

    Tonester Lift Line Nazi Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yep. GPS should work OK. Did for us. BUT....the best thing about nav systems in Japan, IMO, is that you can plug in a landline number and it will take you to exactly where you want to go. Way better than trying to navigate the Japanese addressing system
     
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  18. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I've only ever had Japanese navi GPS.
    Never an issue... Really.
    It's mostly symbols and numbers.
     
  19. Vermillion

    Vermillion Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    Just get the guys at the rental place to show you which buttons to press to get to the screen where you put in a phone number and then select it, and you'll be sweet. I've never gotten lost using a Japanese GPS.
     
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  20. argento

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    Those fluen in Japanese. Could you confirm if it says Toyota Vanguard in the following kanjis......

    トヨタ ヴァンガード(4WD)
     
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    ojisan Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    it does, but that's katakana, not kanji
     
  23. skichanger

    skichanger A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    You can download various map aps to your phone. You just need to make sure your download the Japanese map packs.
     
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    travelislife One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    ^ this. System can 100% be in Japanese. All you need to know is how to enter the phone number. Japan doesn't operate on your normal address system like the rest of the world!
     
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    Just use your phone for the satnav. These are two apps that you can preload Japanese maps -
    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mapfactor.navigator&hl=en (best for driving)
    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mapswithme.maps.pro&hl=en

    And English is overrated anyway. The last time I rented a car from Toyota the woman told me in English the pedal on left make car stop, pedal on right make car go.

    For English translations just make sure you load Google translate on your phone before you go.
    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.translate&hl=en
     
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  27. argento

    argento Hard Yards

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    Cheers

    I'll never learn......
     
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    argento Hard Yards

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    Cheers
    No clutch
     
  29. ojisan

    ojisan Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    Katakana is the Japanese writing for foreign words/names/places etc... but it beats me why they use katakana for words like Toyota :rolleyes:
     
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    Send them an email to check, we have also booked a car through budget, I dont recall them offering 4wd though so would be a good idea to check. They are good with email responses as I had to check and change some things. We only went with the minimum insurance cover.
     
  31. M_G

    M_G M_G_ = Make skiing great again Ski Pass: Gold

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    You've never worked in a Japanese marketing office have you? LOL. It only has to look good, not make sense!
     
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  32. argento

    argento Hard Yards

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    anyone driven a nissad AD expert and fitted 1,85meter skis inside the vehicle?
     
  33. PMG

    PMG One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    It appears to have the same floorplan as the Wingroad but with more carrying capacity due to less obtrusive wheel arches. If that's the case then 185 cm skis should fit fine but the tips or tails may poke between the front seats a little.
     
  34. Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    For example, on the older JR trains, they have the train stations in Kanji, Romaji ("English") and Katakana. I've often wondered why, since most other trains have Kanji, Romaji and Hiragana (phonetic script for Japanese words)
     
  35. Born2ski

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    Anyone here rented through Tocoo and picked up their ETC card from the airport post office ?

    Their website says your name must be the same as your passport name but the Tocoo website won't let you put in your middle name (as per the passport). Will this be an issue with the post office ?
     
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    Vermillion Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    Not in my experience. Also, dont lost the ETC, it's a right pain in the ass.
     
  37. pedub

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    Make sure your partner doesn't accidentally eject the ETC card out of its slot when you are trying to go through the toll gate! :rolleyes:

    I booked through tocoo and picked up a few Nippon outlets in Sapporo city -
    Sapporo Hagashi: Very little English but they explained how to use the GPS no problem.
    Sapporo Station North exit: When I started speaking English they quickly rushed around to get a young girl to serve me who obviously was really keen to speak English!!
    Seems like she was being dedicated to any English speaking customers and she seemed to be very happy about it!

    By the way:
    The GPS in car is better than Google maps In my opinion, just dial in the phone number or MAPCODE and you are on your way. No Japanese knowledge needed. There is only 1 button to push then just numbers to enter.
    Your recent waypoints are stored too so can just select recent places quickly..
     
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    The only issue I have every had with the GPS was a few roads closed in winter that the GPS directed us to use! Made for some interesting detours!
     
  39. ojisan

    ojisan Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    The issue that I have is that the GPS would direct you onto the toll roads rather than the local roads.
    Its as if the GPS manufactures and the ETC companies were in bed with each other
     
  40. pedub

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    I never found a toll road that wasn't worth taking :p

    Easier, faster and IMO safer

    Just not cheaper
     
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    ojisan Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    Can't agree with you... if you are driving local, say from Madaro to Myoko, like I did this year, from the onsen about 10k's or so from Madaro the GPS directed me the long way around the mountain onto the toll road in which the on ramp was about half way between Nagano & Myoko.
     
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    bluestick One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    yep had a couple of interesting experiences ourselves taking us up dodgy, very snowy and steep roads. Not much fun at night. Need to keep an open mind.
     
  43. pedub

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    Oh, I guess i'm not saying GPS will take you in the right direction
    But usually, the toll road makes sense, I found that in Hokkaido anyway. Most cars travelling 120km/hr, roads well cleared all the time except in heavy blizzard.
    Although for skiing purposes, the Hokkaido expressway is only really useful to go east out from Sapporo,
    If you are heading in southwest region, there aren't many toll roads. (I think it goes down towards Chitose and on the southern coast).
     
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    I trialled using Sygic last season and it did okay. Basically you download Japan maps and it uses your phone's GPS to track you without necessarily having to have access to data. Always good to have a back-up, because yeah, sometimes your in-built GPS within the car can be set to send you onto expressways where possible...or alternatively, 'shortest' distance which directs you through closed mountain passes.
     
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    I plug it into the toll road then take the back roads if I want to go exploring, it'll always try to get me back to the expressway so it's hard to get lost. Using the back roads takes a little common sense in winter, I always scope out potential routes the night before using google maps, and if it's an obvious razorback and a white like (local road) there's a good chance it wont be open, so I dont go that way. Dead-end roads or roads that dont lead to obvious towns too are likely to be closed, so I avoid them unless I want to be turned around. Finally, if you are going to go up a windy road and there's an onsen or something at the top I check their website to see if they are operating, if they are then the road will likely be open, but could be in dicey condition.
     
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    Budget confirmed they have requested 4WD as per my booking.. Very happy with their speed of response to questions, for a first time hirer in Japan their web site is well set out for Non Japanese and communication is excellent..
    Thanks MG
     
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    Question...............after just going through a RBT without issue on our way home here in SE Qld, what is the law regarding alcohol and driving in Japan and how does it differ?
     
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    Page 1, 1st post of the thread:
     
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