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F...... Horses

Discussion in 'Backcountry' started by Greybeard, Sep 10, 2018.

  1. Wally

    Wally One of Us Ski Pass: Gold Ski Pass: Silver

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    I am canoeing down the Murray this week through Barmah. Apart from all the rubbish and 4wd rednecks, it is lovely to see all the horses, deer and pigs. But atleast PV have closed a section of the park to shoot foxes!
    This place is trashed
     
  2. DidSurfNowSki

    DidSurfNowSki One of them Ski Pass: Gold

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    Snowy Mountains Highway safety fears as feral horse collisions rise
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    The ACT government will look to officially declare feral horses a pest and update its management plan, it announced on Tuesday.


    It comes as the Invasive Species Council warned the lack of feral horse control is leading to more collisions in the Snowy Mountains and Kosciuszko park between horses and motorists.

    No feral horses were removed from Kosciuszko in 2018, a year which saw four collisions between cars and horses.


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    Wild brumbies in the Kiandra high country, NSW. Picture: Karleen Minney.


    Environment minister Mick Gentleman said feral horses were a growing threat to Canberra "under the current management plan in our neighbouring states".


    Feral horses in Kosciuszko were given "heritage status" by the NSW government last year, limiting population control to non-lethal methods while numbers explode.

    At the same time a draft management plan for horses - which in 2016 recommended reducing the then-population from 6000 to 600 in two decades - was thrown out and the state government is in the process of organising a new management plan.

    "Latest research shows that feral horses are the largest cause of environmental degradation throughout Australia's alpine parks," Mr Gentleman said.

    Canberra's current management plan was last updated in 2007 with the government hoping to have another update later this year.

    The council's Reclaim Kosci campaign director Richard Swain said the majority of the collisions since 2011 had been in the Kiandra area, near Selwyn Snow Resort and Yarrangobilly Caves.

    "This is a ticking time bomb," Mr Swain said.

    He said with more families expected in Kosciuszko's snow fields and the failure to control the horse population, a human fatality was "increasingly likely".

    Documents released to the council under freedom of information laws show all collisions between horses and cars in 2018 had occurred in the Kiandra area, with six collisions - with two at the same time - the year before.

    The published documents included communications between NSW Roads and Maritime Services and a park ranger, who said feral horses could be "on and around the highway year round".

    In an email dated October 25, 2018 the ranger said night time was when most crashes had occurred, with the horses hard to see and not moving off the road.

    He said horses tended to be on the Snowy Mountains Highway between the Yarrangobilly Village and the Kiandra and Eucumbene River crossing area.

    "There have been near misses throughout this section," the ranger said.

    Grisly collision reports provided to the council detailed distressing scenes including one where one motorist had to euthanise a hit foal by bashing its head in with a rock.

    The park's risk treatment plan from 2016 - a year they saw only three reported collisions in the Kiandra area - said population reduction would be one of the best control methods to deal with horses.

    That same year one driver wrote to the NSW Office of Environment and Heritage and said they encountered about 40 horses on the highway, north of Yarrangobilly.

    These documents follow another cache released to the council under freedom of information laws which showed the government's own count of the northern end of Kosciuszko had shown horse numbers had doubled in Kosciuszko.

    The council said since the count started in 1998, horse numbers in Kosciuszko park's north, had increased from 75 to nearly 2800.

    Kosciuszko's northern section is just across the ACT's border and the ACT government and Canberra's park rangers have their own concerns about an unchecked feral horse population.

    The ACT government fears an established population inside the ACT would destroy delicate wetlands which provide the capital with 80 per cent of its drinking water, and the habitats of native species like the critically endangered northern corroboree frog.

    The council's chief executive Andrew Cox said the numbers showed the problem was getting worse.

    "If you're going to even stabilise the population, you need a far greater number of horses removed. There's a crisis going on," Mr Cox said.

    However, the government count the data comes from is criticised as potentially doubling back over the same horses, counting them twice.

    Currently the Australian Alp Program, a cross-government group, is conducting their own aerial count with more statistically sound techniques.

    But Mr Cox said the last count by the alps program took two years to be released after it had been conducted and action needed to be taken now.

    https://www.canberratimes.com.au/st...-pest-amidst-snowy-road-safety-fears/?src=rss
     
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  3. Snow Blowey

    Snow Blowey Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I had a handful of very close calls along there when i used to drive from Wagga. Snow covered road, 80km/hr, horsey runs out, nothing to do but take feet off and brake ever so slightly, horsey runs off the road at the last minute, stop and clean undies.

    Then there was the time when i missed a few only to relax and put foot back on the accelerator as the next 20 ran out. Hit brakes hard and then stop to clean undies.
     
  4. Untele-whippet

    Untele-whippet beard stroker Ski Pass: Gold

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    GG strings?
    Brown GG strings!
     
  5. Ubiquitous Steve

    Ubiquitous Steve A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    It sounds like apart from warning signs.....I would hope they have “active “signs that flash out warning message about high danger of horse collisions ....

    They may need to reduce the speed limit below 80km....
    Not a collision you want to have even with bullbar at night!

    I could see myself creeping around at 60km/hr!!
     
  6. Kelly van den Berg

    Kelly van den Berg Hard Yards

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    Blimey it’s Anne !!
     
  7. skifree

    skifree Part of the Furniture Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Which one?
     
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  8. Legs Akimbo

    Legs Akimbo Grumblebum Ski Pass: Gold

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    The one on the far right.
     
  9. skifree

    skifree Part of the Furniture Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Anne the Clydsdale?
     
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  10. Kelly van den Berg

    Kelly van den Berg Hard Yards

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    Holding the horse !
     
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  11. skifree

    skifree Part of the Furniture Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    So what is the horse’s (is it a clydesdale?) name?
     
  12. Ubiquitous Steve

    Ubiquitous Steve A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    The Team Bears are shaking their heads in regard to land management issues!

    What happened to the good old days!

    Those car shuffles after dark must be an adventure in and around Kiandra..

    You would be better off down in Vicco even allowing for the nighttime activities of those feral deer?

    Perhaps an armoured vehicle would be necessary to access the Blue Water Holes on those dirt roads!

    Adaminaby has the big trout
    when is Kiandra getting the big horse ....at least we can market it this way and restore economic vigour into the region.
     
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  13. Moondog55

    Moondog55 One of Us

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    Better yet open up a horsemeat butchery and sell real Bologna sausage as well People who rave about Wagyu beef have never tasted Cheval
     
  14. Moondog55

    Moondog55 One of Us

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    Start spruiking the benefits of horsehide as motorcycle leather of for hard wearing work boots, lets spark a demand for horse biproducts
     
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  15. Kelly van den Berg

    Kelly van den Berg Hard Yards

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    Winston the clydsdale
     
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  16. zac150

    zac150 One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Note sure if this local Thredbo artist has a wicked sense of humour or is predicting the future, but painting a horse with Blood.....

     
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