All the more reason to drive carefully to the conditions.Bit harsh.
Some drivers have no training or experience.
I must say that for me it is kind of like entertainment watching people with NO IDEA sliding off the roads in these sorts of conditions . It gets them out of the way for safer and more careful drivers to proceed with caution. As long as no one goes home in a box it isn't bad for a laugh ;-P.Bit harsh.
Some drivers have no training or experience.
Which part of "crawling down the hill in the lowest possible gear without applying the brakes " don't people comprehend?The poor driving mayhem continued yesterday....
On the way up there was about 1-2 cm of haily snow of the road, two cars into bank on corners coming down. Most likely going too fast.
On the way down, few cm of fresh and road bladed, two 4WD corner head to head on road corner. Most likely downhill vehicle going too fast and sliding wide into uphill lane.
Slow down people! I went up and down, sensible steady speed, no heavy brakes, no slipping, no problems..... and a 'Snowtyres' recommended skid test totally not needed.
Not entertaining when kneejerk requirements are enforced on the capable as a result of the actions the lowest common denominator.I must say that for me it is kind of like entertainment watching people with NO IDEA sliding off the roads in these sorts of conditions . It gets them out of the way for safer and more careful drivers to proceed with caution. As long as no one goes home in a box it isn't bad for a laugh ;-P.
I'm not talking specific skills, just commonsense. Slow down, slow down, be patient, don't overtake in stupid situations, don't be a hero. Plenty of examples of the 'experienced' not following these simple guidelines.Snow driving (and other types) involves skills that aren't tested for in Victorian licensing - can't speak about other states. So with drivers left to learn by trial and error it's no wonder there's errors.
I'd heard it was pretty heavy, but then you probably knew better spotsToday was awesome....end of story.
That is a fair call. As always it is the other dud drivers we have to be very wary and vigilant of .Not entertaining when kneejerk requirements are enforced on the capable as a result of the actions the lowest common denominator.
I heard somebody on a lift say it was heavyI'd heard it was pretty heavy, but then you probably knew better spots
I wish I was in a position to make my own judgementsI heard somebody on a lift say it was heavy....I loaded at 830 and had some awesome skiing before on snow guiding commitments at 10. My friend from Hakuba skied all day and said "belry goodo!". I had free ski run before heading home and still really nice in my books.
There's trial and error and there's no trying at all. For the bottom 10 ks today foIllowed a driver doing 30-40 kmh in this category. He was cautious by his lights and incompetent by those of the average drivers queued up behind him.I'm not talking specific skills, just commonsense. Slow down, slow down, be patient, don't overtake in stupid situations, don't be a hero. Plenty of examples of the 'experienced' not following these simple guidelines.
That mate is plain sick.I must say that for me it is kind of like entertainment watching people with NO IDEA sliding off the roads in these sorts of conditions . It gets them out of the way for safer and more careful drivers to proceed with caution. As long as no one goes home in a box it isn't bad for a laugh ;-P.
happy for him to drive as slowly as he likes - as long as he pulls over for other trafficThere's trial and error and there's no trying at all. For the bottom 10 ks today foIllowed a driver doing 30-40 kmh in this category. He was cautious by his lights and incompetent by those of the average drivers queued up behind him.
I always pull over wherever possible and let others pass me when I am driving down winding hills.Coming up today we saw a lady driving a 4WD who had lost it and slipped into the high side table drain. The look of confusion on her face as the wheels were spinning uselessly made it look like she had no idea how she ended up there and was having that horrible "oh shit what do I do now" moment of panic.
Edit: Oh and the snow conditions in the village are beautiful right now - looking forward to fighting with the wind tomorrow.
Well he didn't pull over, and in any case if you get a driver behind a Slug not willing to make a move then it's all over and that's what happened today too.happy for him to drive as slowly as he likes - as long as he pulls over for other traffic
We can talk about individuals needing to behave in this or that way, and good luck trying to get peeps to change their behaviour.
Yep. That driver may have passed the licence test in a small sedan and it's legal for her to pilot a light truck in hazardous conditions.Coming up today we saw a lady driving a 4WD who had lost it and slipped into the high side table drain. The look of confusion on her face as the wheels were spinning uselessly made it look like she had no idea how she ended up there and was having that horrible "oh shit what do I do now" moment of panic.
FWIW my hunch is that if you calculate the weight X tyre contact area of a medium or large 4WD the number will be higher than for a Subaru for example meaning it has less effective grip (all other things equal).
and jaw tensionAt critical moments a sphincter helps the grip as well.
Gee, it's starting to sound like Falls Creek in the early 1990's....A lot more snow around in places this year compared to the same time last year.
1) Trying to traverse from the top of Eagle over to Ruined and my ski poles on more than one occasion disappeared up to the handle
2) In the area between Ruined and Scotts - and due to a severe lack of ability in "powder" skiing - I went arse over tit and submarined a foot under the snow - took ten minutes to dig my way out (note: Ruined was turning but not a single person was going down any of the runs there????)
3) So many of the high timber fences on Scotts are buried to the top from snow drifts
I'm guessing you are not regretting ditching this ideaA lot more snow around in places this year compared to the same time last year.
1) Trying to traverse from the top of Eagle over to Ruined and my ski poles on more than one occasion disappeared up to the handle
2) In the area between Ruined and Scotts - and due to a severe lack of ability in "powder" skiing - I went arse over tit and submarined a foot under the snow - took ten minutes to dig my way out (note: Ruined was turning but not a single person was going down any of the runs there????)
3) So many of the high timber fences on Scotts are buried to the top from snow drifts
Unless I am misreading the reports the weather next week 7th-10th sounds like wind hold and horrid? I am considering walking away from my 50% accom deposit
I'm guessing you are not regretting ditching this idea
My first BC tour out of Falls was about '91 or 92. The snow drift at the Windy Cnr end of the road was about 3m deep with a single lane cleared through it. Some poles in pole lines were almost buried.Gee, it's starting to sound like Falls Creek in the early 1990's....
Not nice. I saw that they closed the road but just assumed it was a slide. Hope the person is not too badly injured.'fraid I won't be up Saturday otherwise I'd be happy to.
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The mountain was in fine fettle this morning.
Seems though there was an incident on the road up? Someone fitting chains ended up under the vehicle.
Rumour was they'd gone for a slide and ended up in a ditch, then tried to fit chains to get the traction to drive out.Not nice. I saw that they closed the road but just assumed it was a slide. Hope the person is not too badly injured.
Darkside (ungroomed area between Shadow Ridge and Lakeside could be good too . Also quartz ridge/rapunzels (ungroomed between Lakeside and towers) this gives you the option of using the poma, or even towers chair, if Scott chair is too horrible. Just need to make sure you head back to the lift in timeI wont be around but given the snowy and windy conditions there's a fair bet Scotts and Ruined Castle chairs will be closed. Depending on the situation relative to fresh snow you want arrive early and park at Gully carpark. Get the gully chair to the summit bowl then you have the choice of Summit or Eagle chairs if they're running to access the Y's as your first choice. Don't waste your time with the glory town lines under the lift... Y's or Cabbage patch are where it's at in fresh snow then make your way over to international ones it's tracked out... If Scotts is running then Corkscrew gully is great fun along with some of the lines down sun valley, however this can (likely) get badly wind scoured at the top which ain't much fun in a whiteout... Only thing worse than skiing a coral reef is skiing a coral reef when you can't see!
All after you’ve tracked Y’s and/or Cabbage patch...Darkside (ungroomed area between Shadow Ridge and Lakeside could be good too . Also quartz ridge/rapunzels (ungroomed between Lakeside and towers) this gives you the option of using the poma, or even towers chair, if Scott chair is too horrible. Just need to make sure you head back to the lift in time
so why don't they roster staff to start de-icing earlier? This year seems to be much worse than other years.On some occasions it's been the icing up.
Yes.so why don't they roster staff to start de-icing earlier? This year seems to be much worse than other years.
Yes, a 'warm' dry air mass came through.Lovely weather today at Falls.
Snow was v slightly crusty however unfortunately so not turnamatic off piste =it must have warmed up in the early hours.