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Opinion Falls Creek - Bouquets and Brickbats

Discussion in 'Falls Creek' started by currawong, Jul 15, 2015.

  1. Sadie

    Sadie Chk Chk Boom Moderator

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    Actually no, not always. There is a mix. Yes, boarders need to learn to move out of the way to boot in (that is what we do). They provide seats for this around the corner. We usually skate around the corner where the snow is built up to the lifty hut. That way, you are sitting on an angle and it is easy to boot in. But, quite a few times that I have almost plowed into a group, it is a group of skiers that are standing around chatting about where they are heading off to next. It happens quite a bit up the top of Scotts as well where they stand there deciding which direction they are going to go.

    It is not about which type of snowrider is clogging things up, it is about telling whoever it is, to move the hell out of the way to a more suitable area.
     
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    Bluebird One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    If only they could organise themselves and have these conversations at the bottom of the chairlift before going up, or hell, even on the chairlift! I agree that most of the crowd is made up of people standing around chatting rather than boarders strapping in.
     
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  3. currawong

    currawong Old but not so Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Agree that it's not just snowboarders but I get particularly pissed off when a snowboard class sits down blocking the unload area, with the blessing of the instructor
     
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  4. Sadie

    Sadie Chk Chk Boom Moderator

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    Like we do. We check out lines from the chair lift and say "That's where we are headed next"
     
  5. currawong

    currawong Old but not so Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    it's ok to chat or wait at the top, especially if the group is not all on the same chair, but get well clear of the unload first.
     
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  6. Charlie

    Charlie Still the most depraved poster here Ski Pass: Gold

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    Can we stop being sensible about this?
    cqen21 was bagging boarders in general, we need more of this!
     
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  7. Sadie

    Sadie Chk Chk Boom Moderator

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  8. currawong

    currawong Old but not so Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Post of the week
     
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  9. Hully

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    Brickbats for the continuing state of toilets at Cloud 9, Dicky Knees and Maggies being of a 3rd World standard. Cloud 9 male toilets have 1 hand dryer for 8 basins, 8 stalls, massive urinal and servicing a restaurant that must have a capacity of hundreds. This cannot meet building and health regulation codes that are the responsibility of FCRM.
     
  10. soza

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    was thinking the same Hully. I think the food at thoses establishments is also worth a brickbat mention....certainly standards seemed to have dropped since last year at cloud 9 and dickys.
     
  11. Hully

    Hully One of Us

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    The food standard is a commercial decision, hygiene standards are not optional.
     
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    Same
     
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  13. Sadie

    Sadie Chk Chk Boom Moderator

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    Everytime I seem to want to go to the toilet, the female ones at Cloud 9 are being cleaned. On Sunday I was busting so bad that I just went in the men's. I quite often get mistaken for a little boy so no one really noticed. +1 did stand guard for me though.
     
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  14. BilbyBill

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    The men's toilet at the Windy Corner, has been carefully designed so that any one walking from the shelter area to the Cafe has a wonderful view of the uninal.
     
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  15. Hully

    Hully One of Us

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    I sound too definitive in regards to the regulation codes...."Surely this cannot....." would be more appropriate.
     
  16. Hully

    Hully One of Us

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    Bouquet to FCSL for not "over grooming" the mountain over the past couple of weeks of fresh falls. It might be as a result of cost saving but I don't care, plenty of ungroomed runs has been a pleasure.
     
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  17. Charlie

    Charlie Still the most depraved poster here Ski Pass: Gold

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    I hope you left the seat up Sadie!
    (Post of the day????)
     
  18. Sadie

    Sadie Chk Chk Boom Moderator

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    I'll pay that LOL

    But....no
     
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    Falls have sent me out their fancy brochure and a very persuasive letter to my letterbox. I already wish I was there, don't make me even more depressed and jealous I'm not Falls!
     
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    Your lucky, they don't even send me their daily reports even though I have subscribed for them, twice.
     
  21. snowduck

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    Got mine today also.

    Strange that it came so late, as in previous years the book arrived either late February, March or April.
     
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    Any discounts in that letter?
    ____
    T97
     
  23. wannaski

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    Last year they sent me 2 . I rang them about a month ago to ask about it and they said they had no idea when they would be in - I was told they were delayed because of something to do with printing . Hopefully I'll find mine in the post box tomorrow .
     
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    Another example of how unorganised the whole setup is. With such a short and marginal season to operate in, you'd think they'd be on top of this kind of stuff. It is in their best interests...
     
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  25. Sadie

    Sadie Chk Chk Boom Moderator

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    Oh! I forgot about that.
     
  26. BilbyBill

    BilbyBill One of Us

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    Brickbats for the state of the classic ski tracks to Watchbed Creek. They were not cut all the way, stopped and started with large distances in between. It was a beautiful day on great snow, so why not cut the track all the way? Many frustrated classic skiers today.

    This is what it was like where it was cut.
    [​IMG]
     
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  27. Ziggy

    Ziggy Repreived Ski Pass: Gold

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    You mean XC skiers had to, um, ski cross-country?
     
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    Do they have to pay to have that highway prepared for them?
     
  29. Hully

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    No, it's subsidised by the downhill fraternity. :out:
     
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    cqen2l Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    Oh, is that right? Same arrangement as Hotham?
     
  31. Hully

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    Yeah, just that as the 'national home of cross country' there is most likely a much bigger slice of the pie spent.
     
  32. BilbyBill

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    XC trails are groomed by Resort Management. Portion of the resort entry fee goes towards this.
     
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    ROFL
     
  34. currawong

    currawong Old but not so Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Collecting trail fees was hardly worth the expense. And enforcement was problematic.
    XC skiers pay a lot of resort entry fees.

    An increasing number of people do both xc and downhill IMHO, aided by hero passes and no trail fees. It's not nearly as us and them as it used to be
     
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    Yep.
    Administering trail fees at Falls was always fraught as a proportion of XCers were using the roads to get BC access & didn't need them groomed or want to pay for it.
    We were supposed eg. to leave from the back of Windy Corner & contour around between the High Plains Road & the aqueduct.

    Edited
     
  36. BilbyBill

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    Which was physically impossible to do.
     
  37. currawong

    currawong Old but not so Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    brickbats yesterday to FCSL guest services. when FC Express was out of order for some time, the queues at gully and eagle were huge. when gully queue had reduced to something bearable, guest services person was unable to say if eagle queue was ok, despite having a radio.

    guest services inability to provide useful info has been a bugbear of mine for some years. it can't be that difficult
     
  38. Hully

    Hully One of Us

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    That's what I'm saying, I know exactly who does what. The vast majority of visitors to Falls, by a very long way, are there to participate in downhill snowsports....I'm pretty sure cross country is last behind snow play. Thus what this group contributes in Resort Entry subsidises nordic grooming.
     
  39. Hully

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    I arrived at the back of the FEX queue just after it stopped. When the Lift Ops crew took the people on the chair that was just loading off and directed them to the shuttle it was clear it was going to be stopped for a long while. Guest Services were telling people in the queue nothing. Luckily I have a bit of experience in this stuff ;) and promptly jumped on a carpark shuttle to Gully and missed all the crowds.
    Nobody queue managing this morning at Ruined Castle on a peak season bluebird Saturday is also a Guest Services no no.
     
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    Don't get me wrong, I'm not bashing cross country skiers.....I even like some of them. :) Dog sled racers on the other hand, they don't even contribute by paying Resort Entry. The event costs a heap to run and is justified I would guess by media coverage value put up by marketers which typically are pretty fluffy numbers (the financials, not the marketers).
     
  41. Charlie

    Charlie Still the most depraved poster here Ski Pass: Gold

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    In my experience it applies to both!
     
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    currawong Old but not so Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    If they put sled dogs on earlier or in September they could at least argue that it was increasing visitation on a non-peak weekend. But it's always a peak weekend when there should be no problem filling beds - and they then ask lodges if they will put competitors up for free
     
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    LOL Windy Corner & men's toilet in the same sentence. :p
     
  44. Hully

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    Very interesting observation from the Fri morning FEX down situation relayed to me yesterday was that the whole time the transport system haemorrhaged trying to get people from FEX to Gully an RMB 12(?) seat minivan say at the 'meet and greet' point outside Oversnow idle.
     
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    Bouquets to FCSL lift operators. A lot of newies again this season. The usual minor hiccups early on being a little 'trigger happy' on the stop button and over the top on the eager friendliness. They have now settled into being a great friendly crew and I have seen some really good work and a couple of great saves from them. The exception to this was the dude at the Lakeside load on Sat morning who was chucking poma sticks out to guests like he couldn't care less and making no attempt at all in presenting them the right way round, especially to the kids who struggle to adjust the stick once they are riding. Pretty sure the system will sort him out quickly.
     
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    Brickbats-
    Poor beginners/ first timers options
    A couple of seasons ago both my son and Mrs would get a beginners ticket for $64 that gave you a 2 hr group lesson. They would teach you up to about level 2 or 3 so linking turns down drovers was the primary focus, the afternoon you were free to use drovers, express, monkey and mouse trap to practice ...it was a great deal that I am sure encouraged lots of newbies to return time and time again.
    Today I took a mate up for his first time. The begginers pass now cost him $85 and only allowed the use of express and mousetrap??....like anyone is going to enjoy wombats on there first day on snow?...especially on a busy day like today. The 2 hr lesson didn't even use a lift, they just practiced the falling leaf on the slope next to the top of lakeside poma.
    By the look of the website the pass that gives you a lesson and access to drovers and monkey bar.....the two best places to spend your first day or two now cost $138!!!!! That's $70 more than 2 years ago!!!


    I think I know why the $64 begginers pass was scrapped.... It was abused by people not even going to the lesson who would be off all over the mountain with only eagle and summit lifts off limits.
    But this could be sorted with more RFID gates or more random checking of passes on towers, Scotty's or RC. (This may also deter those who buy a half dayer and again hide over sun valley all day.)

    Just seems a shame not to offer the first timers some value and incentive to return and learn.
     
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    Also falls creek coaches..... Going 35kmh and not pulling over with 12 cars behind you....yes 12, I had plenty of time to count them.
     
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    Maybe time to visit another resort @soza you're clearly not happy here.
     
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    Jeez, I didn't want my little winge to come across like that....I love it at falls and I commit by buying season passes and resort entry every year.....its the reason I live and work within commuting distance of the hill. I was just a bit shocked today when enquiring about the begginers pass for a mate.....jumped from $64 to $138!!
     
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    Check other resorts, that's cheap!