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Falls Creek/ Hotham to be bought by Vail?

Discussion in 'Snow Talk' started by Apresski, Dec 21, 2018.

  1. Moondog55

    Moondog55 One of Us

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    I went to Perisher once; it was awful. There were people there from Canberra, horrible people who were wearing matching ski suits and stuff
     
  2. hipo

    hipo One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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  3. Marty_McSly

    Marty_McSly Backwards to the future! Ski Pass: Gold

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  4. Spyder_Man

    Spyder_Man Hard Yards

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    Hi there Guys
    Been reading between the lines and it's still not clear if Hotham will become EPIC for this winter season... I'm on the sidelines weather to buy epic or not given my time is spent skiing buller and Hotham mostly, can you guys see Hotham getting approved for skiing on epic pass this year ? Or should I sit out this year and see what happens?
    Definitely no overseas travel for 2019/2020... so from that angle epic isn't much good to me?
    Let me know your thoughts on which way I should go ?
     
  5. Rick Ross Da Boss

    Rick Ross Da Boss One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Buy the hero pass and ski falls Hotham
     
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  6. currawong

    currawong Old but not so Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    In another thread yesterday, someone reported speaking to Hotham and being told they were hopeful of the sale being finalised by late May. No guarantees though. How long can you delay a decision? I'm not sure of cut off dates but wait till June if you can. Or buy a hero pass if you will ski hotham a fair bit anyway and cross your fingers for perisher

     
  7. Rick Ross Da Boss

    Rick Ross Da Boss One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    No more early bird for hero pass so wait as long as necessary
     
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  8. Moondog55

    Moondog55 One of Us

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    Anybody else received an email asking HeroPass holders to fill in a survey?
    Purports to come from Vail.com but the internal links do not work and the email link in the text body comes back as invalid
     
  9. mr

    mr Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    yes i did an ignored it like all surveys but my early bird hero passes x 5 came off my acc the other day
     
  10. Chaeron

    Chaeron One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Got it - but it was an Epic Pass survey - seemed legit.
     
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  11. emkae

    emkae One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yes, got it as well, all worked for me
     
  12. currawong

    currawong Old but not so Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Received but not tried to access yet.

    Would not be the 1st time FC emails had bad links
     
  13. Rick Ross Da Boss

    Rick Ross Da Boss One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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  14. skiflat

    skiflat Old n' Crusty

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    Did the survey


    Kinda pointless IMO
     
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  15. Ozgirl

    Ozgirl A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Grrr surely a decision needs to be made soon, me mate @billykate and I want a ladies day at Hotham!
     
  16. currawong

    currawong Old but not so Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    not so much a decision as the slow turning of the wheels of bureaucracy. needs to go all the way to the governor. will not be the highest priority matter in the queue
     
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  17. Bato

    Bato One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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  18. Budgiesmuggler

    Budgiesmuggler A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    You can’t read much into that. Probably all loaded up with share options hence no purchases.
     
  19. Bato

    Bato One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    You would normally get a couple of buys if they had some confidence in their own company, Even just token purchases so there wasnt a big fat 0 in the buy column.
     
  20. Chaeron

    Chaeron One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Because tax - directors and executives personal interests don’t always align with that of the company, even though, ironically, the point of share options as remuneration is to ensure that they do.
     
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  21. Bato

    Bato One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Directors sell shares for many reasons but theres only one reason they buy!
     
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  22. Chaeron

    Chaeron One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    They sell to no avail....
     
  23. Goski

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    As @Chaeron predicted earlier in this thread, the day pass prices have increased. Up 18% !! for Hotham, $146 for a walkup adult pass, $83 for a child. There is some discussion on the pricing changes at
    https://www.ski.com.au/xf/threads/hotham-2019-trip-reports-pics-conditions.83526/
    but I think it's more appropriate to continue it here.

    Prices have also jumped highly in the USA for 2019. They get great snow of course but in USD the prices below are very expensive. Makes getting an EPIC or IKON pass essential for anyone thinking of a US trip IMO.

    The push to sub-1000 dollar season passes is strong there, and after some net searching, it is no coincidence it is happening here in oz given that Vail is the new owner. As quoted in the Financial Review....
    https://www.afr.com/real-estate/usb...otham-falls-creek-ski-resorts-20190224-h1bn3q
    "The acquisition of the leading mountain resorts in Victoria is part of our continued strategy to drive season pass sales and build loyalty with guests from around the world," said Vail Resorts chairman and chief executive Rob Katz.
    Top 10 Most Expensive Lift Tickets In The USA [2019]:
    1. Vail/Beaver Creek – $209
    2. Breckenridge — $189
    3. Deer Valley — $180
    4. Steamboat | Aspen | Park City| Mammoth — $179
    5. Copper Mountain | Whistler Blackcomb — $178
    6. Winter Park | Squaw Valley/Alpine Meadows | Keystone —$169
    7. Heavenly — $164
    8. Jackson Hole — $162
    9. Northstar — $150
    10. Sun Valley — $149
     
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  24. travelislife

    travelislife One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    As a foreign tourist going to any of those resorts there are multitudes of ways to pay well below rack rate gate price on lift passes. Though it’s not great for those that like flexibility to resort hop and just rock up on the day.
     
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    I think it is all a bit of a storm in a tea cup. The reality is that very few people “day trip” to Hotham & Falls. If you get organised and buy a multi day offer the price comes down quite significantly. As someone who gets a lot of value out of their season pass both here and overseas I love the lower cost offer
     
  26. Goski

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    We'll be getting Epic passes next year - they are definitely goof value now - but we'll probably only get up for a week thus year when and if my ankle is recovered enough come September so we haven't bougt season passes. Our pass cost per day for a family of 4 will be high. Or we may just skip oz this year and spend our weak AUD OS in Jan 2020.
     
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  27. MarzNC

    MarzNC One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    While that is true for many U.S. resorts, have you tried to get discounted day tickets for those 10 locations in the last few years? I know it's not possible for Jackson Hole or Deer Valley. I don't ski much in Colorado or Tahoe so don't know about those resorts.
     
  28. Bato

    Bato One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Really encourages new people to take up the sport :rolleyes:! The Epic pass is awesome for everybody on this forum who already ski or board but asking first timers to pay close to $300 per person per day with lift, lesson, rental and access. They will run out of people to sell passes too when theres no one new coming in.
     
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    travelislife One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    The problem is with the way the weather works in Aus I don’t like to really commit until the day before really. So even if have a weekend locked in at Hotham or Buller don’t really want to lock lift tickets in until couple of days before.
     
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    travelislife One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yeah, not sure about day passes, more the multi day tickets you can get as part of accommodation etc.
     
  31. Goski

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    That's how I think about it. Don't want to be locked into skiing a day on an expensive ticket in sleet and wind and no vis. On one weekend years ago my wife and I had 3 shit weather days in a row at Hotham. We went up from Harrietville and hung out until skiers were giving up near lunchtime then we'd use their tickets for a couple of hours skiing until we were too cold and wet to continue in the mist. Definitely not worth buying a ticket ahead of time that weekend. These days we'd stay down and hire mt bikes for the bad days or head home early. Weather forecasting does not seem particularly reliable for the Vic alps and the upper runs are very exposed to winds.
     
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    Ziggy A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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  34. Dropknee diehard

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    Hotham's management is now risk adverse or cutting costs :cool:....lifts being closed in a sea breeze supposedly on wind hold :whistle:
    Road runner out for a day really stuffs the flow of the mountain
     
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  35. Goski

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    Yikes!
    Risk aversion seems to becoming a pandemic across our ski areas this year. Or the alternative you suggest of cost cutting midweek is a possibility. A friend who lives at Hotham in winter tells me he thinks there is less grooming being done this season in midweek.
     
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  36. rowdyflat

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    Totally agree w Goski . I decide the day before.
    Unless you are a beginner there is no point in locking in skiing days ahead.
    The weather is changeable and you might commit to shitty snow , poor vis + strong winds .
    No thanks go mtbiking or rest.
    Safety is the excuse but its really just avoiding costs and ambulance chaser lawyers who should face the guillotine.
     
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