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Discussion in 'Falls Creek' started by currawong, Dec 9, 2014.

  1. currawong

    currawong Old but not so Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    to a certain extent.
    the different lease/governance arrangements means that you can't run falls and hotham exactly the same as perisher. seek efficiencies for sure, but don't treat them as clones
     
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  2. Ziggy

    Ziggy A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Hotham's extended to Oct 6.
    Smart to go early.
     
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    Just seen that in today's newspaper, think Falls will do the same?
     
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    skiflat Old n' Crusty

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    Smart yes but what will be open it was crazy last time
     
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  5. Ziggy

    Ziggy A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    If they announce early then everyone that wants to open has a better chance of doing it.
     
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  6. currawong

    currawong Old but not so Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Pretty sure falls were always going till that weekend anyway, so need need to extend.

    Will be vey quiet, with most businesses already closed. Staff have pissed off by then and bookings are very sparse. Staying open for that last week is not profitable, especially if you are paying staff. Can work for family businesses but that's about all.

    If conditions are ok, then it's still fun to ski for an hour or so, but rare for it not to get very heavy quite early
     
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    snowtyres Addicted Ski Pass: Gold

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    Here is an image of the new Falls Creek RMB Isuzu 4x4 truck showing the salt spreader and the snow clearing blade referred to in the post .
    The Falls Creek RMB Isuzu is fitted with Nokian studded winter drive tyres on the steer axle and Nokian winter drive tyres on the rear axle.
    This is the same studded/non-studded winter tyre combination that is being used by the VicRoads snow clearing trucks on the Great Alpine Road at Mount Hotham and by the new MAN snow clearing truck at Mt Baw Baw.



    [​IMG][​IMG]
     
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  8. Timmossy

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    One of the few good things about Buller is the south side holds up really well in September due to aspect and you don’t get that chronic spring puss. Just need the snow to be able to ski September in the first place!!
     
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    mr Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    I've skiied hotham south sides deep into the dargo or swindlers at 5pm in early Oct in perfect temp, not sun, warmed corn
     
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    emkae One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Last year in the last week of Sept we ventured to Falls expecting to ski early in the morning for a short time before conditions deteriorated. What we actually got was firm packed in the morning and a nice mashed potato consistency for the rest of the day. No wet sticky snow which was great
     
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    fallsskier1186 First Runs

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    Ziggy A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Um, thanks. Looks like it's barely started.
     
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  13. fallsskier1186

    fallsskier1186 First Runs

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    Sorry, you don’t speak to me like that.
     
  14. fallsskier1186

    fallsskier1186 First Runs

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    Someone has spent ages putting work into that, and you are putting them and me down.
     
  15. Ziggy

    Ziggy A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    LOL
    In my browser there's just a template, no content.
    And this is supposed to be news?
     
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  16. Charlie

    Charlie Still the most depraved poster here Ski Pass: Gold

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    How about me?
    "Um, thanks. Looks like it's barely started."
     
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  17. Ziggy

    Ziggy A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    You joined on Friday and you "have just found" this.
    Your cred is zero.
     
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  18. Rick Ross Da Boss

    Rick Ross Da Boss One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Groomed or not groomed o_O
     
  19. trappers

    trappers Safety not guaranteed Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    No, Ziggy was just stating a fact, it DOES look like it has barely started. There is no content there, just a template and some links.

    As has been pointed out you have only just joined, on your second post you use this site (which is a commercial site) to advertise your sorry, "someones" supposedly competing site with no content, and you dont expect commentary?

    I understand that you someone have put a lot of time into it, but there is nothing there yet.
     
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  20. skiflat

    skiflat Old n' Crusty

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    Where is the content
     
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    Marty_McSly Backwards to the future! Ski Pass: Gold

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    Where is the love?
     
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    weerab One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Tres weird, IMO!
     
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    Xplora One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Is this site endorsed by Falls Creek RMB? I would think such endorsement would be needed for an unofficial page to run the official Falls Creek map and logo. If not then it is a breach of copyright and will be shut down eventually. Someone put FCRMB onto it.
    While I am very happy for new people on this forum to provide valued information, I find your response here a little over the top. Personally, I don't see forum 'cred' related to the number of posts, just the content of the post. If I had posted something similar to what you did then Ziggy would have responded the same to me. It was not a personal attack but you made it so. Most with a vested interest indicate so in a disclaimer and I have to admit it reads like you have a vested interest in the site. Would that be so? Why else would you be promoting something with no more information than that already available. It is not a great site but clearly hoping to catch some attention.
     
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    currawong Old but not so Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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  25. fallsskier1186

    fallsskier1186 First Runs

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    Does anyone know if the Powerhouse building in the village bowl is the one that all the lifts came out of years ago? Also, are the Nissen building in the bowl at all related to Toni & Skippy’s nutcracker lift with the same name?
     
  26. Charlie

    Charlie Still the most depraved poster here Ski Pass: Gold

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    @Bogong ?
     
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  27. Bogong

    Bogong Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    In short, yes to both questions. The tow hut for the brand new Summit and Village T-bars was built for the 1961 ski season. It housed the motors for both of them. One of the lifts it replaced, Toni and Skippy's Nissen tow, was on a slightly different alignment and was named after the cheap war surplus Nissen Hut it operated from (Nissen huts are those things with a semi-circle of corrugated iron providing both the walls and the roof). The more recent staff accommodation called Nissen appears to be on the same site as the St Elmos tow hut.

    The map below shows both the pre 1961 lifts (dashed lines) and the new lifts that replaced them (solid lines).
    Nissen originally went much higher, but there were problems with it icing up and digging it out, so if was shortened in the mid to late 1950s. The new T-bar marked as Spur was always known as Village after the nutcracker tow it replaced. The tow marked as Collis was obviously a competitor with Nissen, it was more commonly known as Dogpatch. Around 1980? a beginners Poma or platter was built nearby and they revived the name Dogpatch for it.
    [​IMG]
    BTW, I'm always happy to answer any ski history question like this, it keeps me fresh and occasionally provokes me to write something more substantial.
     
  28. weerab

    weerab One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    I received an email today telling me that I had the choice of buying an over 65's Epic pass or an over 70's for $199. At least I got one free year but it's a bit of a bummer. The dropping of the locals pass is a big blow too. I am a rate payer but non resident so never got it but know a few peeps who will be pissed off.
     
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  29. currawong

    currawong Old but not so Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    i'm pleased that they are making the over 70s options clear to people. when the pass was announced it seemed like they were trying to trap over 70s into buying the seniors epic pass by saying very little about an alternative.

    there are very few regular over 70s skiers who will really be hurt by a $200 season pass. small change compared to what else they spend on skiing and snow trips. @Moondog55 is the only one i know of.

    agree that the loss of the locals pass will be a blow for a lot of people. i've been eligible but chosen a hero season pass instead
     
  30. Slalom

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    If anyone’s interested and not watching the footy or cricket, CH31 in Melbourne have the Snowshow @ 8pm showing the Hoppet.
     
  31. almontyrat

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    Damn 31 here is SBS viceland showing the X files, much rather watch the hoppet
     
  32. Bogong

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    I had no idea Ch 31 was still going. Many years ago it seemed to specialise in "community activists" ranting political conspiracies and/or socialist "calls to action" at a camera.
    But after a search I have found it now broadcasts on Channel 44. Perhaps they should change their name?

    Anyway, I'm looking forward to seeing what the snow show is like. I don't mind basic production values as long as they are interesting and get their facts right.

    EDIT. It's surprisingly good. I will watch every episode possible in the future. It's surprising they're not on YouTube as people like me would be more likely to find them there than buried on the most obscure of the dozens of free to air TV channels.
     
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  33. currawong

    currawong Old but not so Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    No ch31 here in hoppet land
     
  34. ocker

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    Perhaps Currawong, but I suspect an extra $200 would be a big increase for many skiers over 70. I doubt they are buying new skis and outfits every year. It was only a couple years back that the cost jumped over $300 with the removal of free resort entry. Over the last few years the cost has jumped a lot for the over 70's . First the ancient skiers loose the free entry and now the free skiing pass and fuel to drive to the resort increasing faster than inflation. Each one is the thin edge of the wedge along with higher fuel prices etc. etc. For some over 70's the cost has probably doubled over a 5 year period while with lower interest rates their income has likely fallen substantially over the same period. A lot of skiers over 70 have been buying lift tickets for more than 50 years. Do the lift company really need to take away this concession? How much money is it going to bring them in? Are they really that desperate for cash? By 70 they may have thought they had collected enough money from the few old codgers still skiing. At the same time the CEO of the lift company is likely to being paid millions per year. To me it just looks unnecessarily mean.
     
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    currawong Old but not so Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I didn't say it was good. I think it is unnecessarily mean of Vail. However I think that the cries of anguish are a bit OTT. You talk about the other increased costs of skiing for over 70s. $200 for the lift ticket is relatively small by comparison.

    and most over 70 skiers I know would not take too kindly to be called ancient. even some of the 80 YOs would resent that
     
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    Rats! I 've hunting around for some viewing of the hoppet I wonder if they will replay it.
     
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    I for one have probably stopped skiing due to costs. The fuel cost from Geelong to the snow was more than I could afford this season It's the ancillary costs that are making skiing unaffordable for me, the money put aside for Canada and Alaska has been spent on more important immediate things, our garage had to be replaced, bang goes my $20k- and more
     
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    I hear you Moondog. We used to resort ski every year for a week at Hotham or Falls. The cost got rediculous, the queue's got longer and slower, the lifts stopped too many times or crawled along. Had a bash at XC Falls style, loved it then before we could really give it a go my knee turned to crap with Arthur bloody itis :cry: It's a bugger but strangely the bung knee eases the pain and disappointment o_O :D
     
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    I'll probably be able to squeeze in a weeks snowcamping each season until my will to live expires but I'll not be buying another seasons pass or lift ticket again. Unless I win Tatts, if I win the lottery I'll be OK
     
  40. ocker

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    Well currawong,
    Since I am over 70 myself then I figure I can get away with calling myself ancient. Personally I do not mind the $199, but some people I ski with I am afraid will stop skiing. Just the last straw. The free lifts motivate them to do a few days one more season each year. What annoys me is that every time a US multi-national takes over a business you can be sure they will screw the customer, and often the suppliers and workers. Inevitably the price goes up and the quality and service goes down while the CEO gets paid absurd value in bonus. As though being paid more than one million dollars a year in salary is not reason enough to do your very best. No they can only be relied on to do their best if they get another 3 million in bonuses.( this is approximately the situation for Katz as I understand it) The ordinary worker can rely on getting the sack if they do not do their best. A British company took over Falls Lifts and we got a new lift, a US company took it over and in less than a year the the over 65's and over 70's get screwed. It is $199 next year what will it be in another 3 or 4 years when the CEO needs more profit to justify an even bigger bonus.
     
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    I don't use the lifts that often but it still pisses me off. Entry to Falls is only 20% off the whole price whereas Buller/ Stirling is free. Pity we can't do what they do in North America/ Canada and just drive to some random mountain and skin up from there. So I believe, I haven't actually been there.
     
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    So what do the CEO's actually get paid. It makes me puke when I hear about what CEOs from e.g, Telstra, actually get paid even when the company is going down the toilet. There is always some wanker defending them, isn't there? You can't justify paying a CEO $4m when you are laying off people and paying the rest of them $30 an hour! Rant over!
     
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    A British company took over and screwed the hell out of the organisation. I'm happy that we have a ski company running the business and am confident that we will see more investment than the wizard ever made.
    You'll struggle to find anybody at Falls with anything positive to say about Merlin.
     
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    wow so much irrelevance.

    I'm no apologist for overpaid CEOs, multinationals or vail resorts. I'm more used to being criticised for being a naive leftie.

    your rant said it's the last straw, and @Moondog55 said much the same. charging over 70s 200 bucks for a season is not the main issue. accommodation, gate entry, travel, on mountain food & bev prices dwarf the lift ticket price.

    I'm not supporting the imposition of the charge, but I maintain my position that the majority of over 70s who are still alpine skiing won't be significantly affected. a single round trip from Melbourne probably costs more, and don't even think about the cost of accommodation.
    the most important thing you need to buy to join in alpine skiing is a lift ticket. at $200, be it for a couple of days or 40+ days, it is still cheap compared to the other costs.

    and BTW the only reason we got a new lift is because eagle was fast becoming unmaintinable, and so was gully. it was replace or shut them down. sfa to do with pommie vs yank owners
     
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    That's what we do but living here is not for everyone. It is a long drive to town and we get very little in services, however, we have few neighbours and can't see any, I have my own trout stream (only ever run into one other person on it while fishing), can ski usually about half hour from home in 3 different places, hike the National Park from our gate, white water paddle with @Wally, hunt deer, mountain bike, ride our horses, 4wd the High Country etc. etc. Hope I am still doing this all this at 70. All life comes at a cost. Its yours for the right amount of money but I suspect you do not have enough to make us part with it.
     
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    apparently next year the guest services people will all be employees, not volunteers.
    hopefully this will raise the standard. the paid ones have always been good (and a few of the volunteers)
     
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    Assume this will be the same case at Hotham?
    The past 2 years I've been amazed at the varying quality in guest services.
    Some have gone well above and beyond and some well...... makes me wonder what the vetting process was.
    My partner was on a chair with someone in a guest services jacket and asked him when and where the Harry the Dinosaur show was.
    "Don't know" was the answer, effectively shutting down the conversation... I would have assumed that would have been minimum required knowledge or at least a response to point someone in the direction of information at Hoth Central or the website.
     
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    too many guest services people just doing it for the lift ticket. IIRC you work 8 days to get a season pass. effective pay rate = monkeys.
     
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    Any further news on this ? Also does Vail take over everything ? does it mean RMB and Ski Lift company become one under Vail ( so to speak ) ?
     
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    RMB is completely separate. Cannot see that changing any time soon, would be such a shit fight that no gov is going to touch it.
     
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